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TADOne Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels Joined: April 27th, 2005, 3:26 pm Posts: 1758	UM vs. OSU Saturday Big game saturday. Best college rivalry in the country. Copied a good story from Bob Wojnowski of the Detroit News. Can't wait for this game to start. Go Michigan! Prediction : Michigan 31, OSU 27 Quote: ANN ARBOR -- Listen to the quiver in the coaches' voices. Listen to the nervousness in the players, who know they can't say what they really feel, not this week. Listen to the fans, who generate much of the noise. This is why, amid college football's evolving landscape, with BCS controversies, conference title games and shifting bowl alliances, Michigan-Ohio State endures, relatively untouched. This is why: Because it still means absolutely everything, even when it doesn't mean absolutely everything. There will not be a national championship contender Saturday in Michigan Stadium. There might not even be a Big Ten champion crowned. That could happen in East Lansing, where Penn State will try to complete its amazing revival and cap Michigan State's stunning collapse. Yet Michigan-Ohio State remains the best, most bankable rivalry in college football because it rarely changes. The sky turns gray, the holidays approach and whatever happened all season suddenly doesn't matter. For everything the Wolverines (7-3) accomplished the past month, winning big road games, shaking that 3-3 start, resuscitating what appeared dead -- all would be wiped out with a loss to the Buckeyes (8-2). I hate to be so harsh, but the truth is, even those most affected agree. I asked Lloyd Carr if one game, this game, could make or break a season. Any other week, the response would be classic coach-speak. This week? Carr paused about a half-second. "Yeah, I think for both teams," he said. "I think this season would be a major disappointment with a loss. I can't think of anything less, because there is a lot at stake and that's what this game is." Always has been. And this season, the split isn't quite equal -- there's more at stake for U-M. Go back a year, to the Wolverines' visit to Columbus. U-M was 9-1; OSU was 6-4 after a 3-3 start. OSU coach Jim Tressel was getting hammered, his offense was a mess, his quarterback was a mystery. And then Troy Smith shredded U-M's defense, and the Buckeyes won, 37-21. Now here the Wolverines sit, their turn to salvage. At stake? Still almost everything. They still could land the Big Ten's BCS bowl bid, with a victory and a Penn State loss. A victory at least would ensure U-M a New Year's Day bowl (actually, Jan. 2) for a 10th consecutive season. Of all the storylines that never change, the coaching drama remains the most compelling. A rivalry that spiked in 1969 with the arrival of Bo Schembechler, who went 5-4-1 against Woody Hayes, doesn't stray far from the coaches, and the attendant pressure. Carr and Tressel don't have the personalities of Bo and Woody but they have comparable records, and each has a national title. And despite their resounding success, each is still judged against the accomplishments of the other. Right now, Carr's 1-3 record versus Tressel is merely notable. If it turns to 2-3, it's a non-issue. If it turns to 1-4, it becomes a trend. (Note to antsy U-M fans: Calm down, Carr is 6-4 overall against the Buckeyes). U-M and OSU coaches are scrutinized every game, but completely dissected on only one. As proof, I merely offer facts. John Cooper won plenty in 13 seasons with the Buckeyes, but his 2-10-1 record against U-M was unfathomable, and impossible for OSU to ignore. Carr, meanwhile, saved a few seasons by beating the rivalry-hapless Cooper. How do you think Carr's career might have veered if he hadn't beaten OSU his first three tries? In 1995, U-M was 8-3 heading into the finale and won, 31-23. In 1996, U-M was 7-3 and a huge underdog against the 10-0 Buckeyes, and won, 13-9. In 1997, the Wolverines marched toward their national title with a 20-14 victory. You could argue Carr weathered rough times early as coach primarily because he started 5-1 against OSU. That's why the annual debate about U-M's biggest rival always is pointless, and why Carr, in a rare moment of reflection the other day, admitted about the Buckeyes, "I don't think you ever stop thinking about them." The MSU game is big, but it's early. Notre Dame is big, but also early. OSU is the biggest because it's the last game, often the decisive game in the Big Ten, always the ultimate measure of how each team has persevered, and is perceived. "Coach Carr is pretty consistent throughout the season, but I think (this week) you can kind of tell there's something different from the look in his eyes," defensive tackle Pat Massey said. "We're not looking to pat ourselves on the back for winning a couple of games in a row. We're thinking about Ohio State. ... Yeah, they're always in our minds." Always in each other's minds, always in each other's sights. Carr and his staff and his players deserve loads of credit for battling back. How far they really rebounded will be determined now. _________________ Regards, Tim
November 16th, 2005, 11:24 am

Brian QB Coach Joined: August 6th, 2004, 8:33 pm Posts: 3222	And yet college gameday is wasting their time in East Lansing... (sigh)
November 17th, 2005, 1:43 am

Rolando Varsity 1st Team Joined: August 16th, 2004, 11:58 pm Posts: 251 Location: Saginaw,MI	ohio state by 10 _________________ GO STATE! 2005 Austin Regional Champs! 4/7 years Final Four apperances 5/7 years Elite 8 apperances Michigan... Missed 64 team tourney AND,NIT tourney(tourney for losers hahaha)
November 18th, 2005, 1:54 pm

adpreston1385 Millen Draft Pick - Epic Bust Joined: August 19th, 2005, 1:02 am Posts: 721 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan	Michigan by 7!! GO BLUE !!
November 18th, 2005, 5:44 pm

m2karateman RIP Killer Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now	I hate Lloyd Carr. I really do. The man has no guts. _________________ I am losing interest in this team.....and that's saying something.
November 19th, 2005, 5:49 pm

Rolando Varsity 1st Team Joined: August 16th, 2004, 11:58 pm Posts: 251 Location: Saginaw,MI	Its great to be a Michigan Wolverine. I personally like this one... Michian has hart ..bwahhahaha .and State lost but I dont care..Bball season has started _________________ GO STATE! 2005 Austin Regional Champs! 4/7 years Final Four apperances 5/7 years Elite 8 apperances Michigan... Missed 64 team tourney AND,NIT tourney(tourney for losers hahaha)
November 20th, 2005, 2:10 pm

m2karateman RIP Killer Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now	And MSU got WHOOPED by 22 points in round ball. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA _________________ I am losing interest in this team.....and that's saying something.
November 20th, 2005, 5:19 pm

Brian QB Coach Joined: August 6th, 2004, 8:33 pm Posts: 3222	MSU is a disgrace to the state of Michigan
November 20th, 2005, 10:37 pm

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November 21st, 2005, 11:25 am

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November 21st, 2005, 11:26 am

Rolando Varsity 1st Team Joined: August 16th, 2004, 11:58 pm Posts: 251 Location: Saginaw,MI	What an OVERATED defense eyes of defeat I think someone should join JLS in anger managment classes I especially like the part where Carr didnt realy shake hands with the coach..woot! _________________ GO STATE! 2005 Austin Regional Champs! 4/7 years Final Four apperances 5/7 years Elite 8 apperances Michigan... Missed 64 team tourney AND,NIT tourney(tourney for losers hahaha)
November 21st, 2005, 11:33 am

m2karateman RIP Killer Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now	Apparently Rolando, Michigan State fans have trouble reading (no offense Pablo). The name of this thread is NCAA football. F-O-O-T-B-A-L-L spells the game that's played with an oblong shaped ball, typically brown. Not the round ball that is orange with black stripes. Shall we bring up the overall series numbers between these two FOOTBALL teams? Shall we bring up overall winning records? How about this years overall records? Conference records? Remember that game played a little while ago in Ann Arbor between the Spartans and Wolverines? Even with the help of the officiating crew AND the idiot (obviously the same retard MSU clock keeper) in the review booth they were unable to beat the Wolverines. So please, give it a rest. At least Michigan will be playing another game this season. Not your boyz in green and white! _________________ I am losing interest in this team.....and that's saying something.
November 21st, 2005, 4:03 pm

Rolando Varsity 1st Team Joined: August 16th, 2004, 11:58 pm Posts: 251 Location: Saginaw,MI	Haha..you can bring up the past with MSU and UM all you want..doesnt change the fact that Buckeyes still own Michigan..that wont change at all..so go ahead and bring up anything you want..im not mad about it, I could care less HAIL TO THE VICTORS!...oh wait..they lost my bad WE STILL SUCK...how is that? _________________ GO STATE! 2005 Austin Regional Champs! 4/7 years Final Four apperances 5/7 years Elite 8 apperances Michigan... Missed 64 team tourney AND,NIT tourney(tourney for losers hahaha)
November 21st, 2005, 6:48 pm

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BillySims General Manager - Martin Mayhew Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 6506 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy	Look at the tape! The last pass from Smith to Gonzalez should have been flagged for an offensive penalty. Gonzalez stepped out of bounds when he tried to go arround ,( I think it was Grant Mason), and then proceeded to come back in bounds and made the catch. An offensive player that has stepped out of bounds CANNOT be the first player to touch the ball. It should have been an offensive penalty. Without that non-call, OSU loses. _________________ Fisher or Joekel or Lane Johnson for #5 overall. I have settled on Johnson as my preference. The only thing Joekel and Fisher have over him is experience at LT. 2 years from now, Lane Johnson will be known as the best LT of this draft!
November 21st, 2005, 9:05 pm
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