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I realize it's way to soon to make an argument on who the Lions should take. But i have seen it posted that we should go LT no matter what. And with that position being one of the deeper spots in the draft it just might make sense to go the best player available route. Wether it be QB,CB,OT or LB. At this time no senior QB's are worthy, and it will be mid-january before they have to declare. I am hoping there is a huge influx of underclassmen in this years draft. I have inserted a list from PFW of player rankings. It does not include junior class. But the possibilities of the talent infusion the Lions could see is intriguing.

Player rankings regardless of position


Nov. 21, 2008


By position | Grade scale

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Pos # Name School Grade Height Weight Speed Notes
1. OLB 59 Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6.75 6016 250 4.61 ILB
2. CB 2 Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State 6.60 6000e 195e 4.45e FS
3. OT 75 Eugene Monroe Virginia 6.50 6051 310 5.20e
4. OLB 98 Brian Orakpo Texas 6.35 6034e 255e 4.65e DE, X
5. OT 72 Jason Smith Baylor 6.30 6044e 300e 5.15e X, TE
6. TE 87 Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State 6.30 6054e 260e 4.85e Ch.
7. ILB 58 Rey Maualuga USC 6.30 6020e 260e 4.75e Ch.
8. OT 74 Michael Oher Mississippi 6.25 6050e 330e 5.20e OG
9. DT 90 B.J. Raji Boston College 6.20 6012 335 5.19 Ch., X, NT
10. DE 93 Tyson Jackson LSU 6.20 6042 295 4.90e
11. ILB 33 James Laurinaitis Ohio State 6.20 6020e 240e 4.75e OLB
12. OLB 51 Clint Sintim Virginia 6.15 6023 250 4.70e MLB
13. OLB 10 Brian Cushing USC 6.10 6026e 255e 4.60e ILB
14. FS 1 William Moore Missouri 5.95 6003 230 4.50e X, SS
15. FS 49 Rashad Johnson Alabama 5.90 5114 185 4.53
16. OC 60 Max Unger Oregon 5.85 6044 310 5.25e OG, OT
17. FS 9 Louis Delmas Western Michigan 5.85 5114 195 4.54
18. DE 93 Michael Johnson Georgia Tech 5.80 6070 260 4.65e PRS, X
19. DT 98 Peria Jerry Mississippi 5.80 6030e 310e 5.00e X
20. WR 2 Derrick Williams Penn State 5.80 6000e 200e 4.50e KR
21. OT 77 Jamon Meredith South Carolina 5.80 6050e 305e 5.10e OG
22. CB 2 Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5.80 5086 190 4.45e S
23. OC 51 Alex Mack California 5.75 6037 310 5.10e
24. TE 7 Cornelius Ingram Florida 5.75 6036 230 4.65e H-B, X, E
25. CB 6 Sherrod Martin Troy 5.75 6005 190 4.46 S
26. TE 45 Chase Coffman Missouri 5.70 6057 250 4.85e
27. DE 51 Larry English Northern Illinois 5.70 6023 245 4.80e DE
28. ILB 33 Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 5.65 6007 235 4.65e Ch., OLB, X
29. WR 9 Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma 5.65 6000e 205e 4.50e RS
30. OG 72 Duke Robinson Oklahoma 5.65 6054e 335e 5.30e X, OT
31. OG 76 Trevor Canfield Cincinnati 5.60 6047 300 5.14 OT
32. CB 6 DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati 5.60 5110 190 4.56 FS
33. DT 94 Evander Hood Missouri 5.60 6030 295 5.00e DE
34. WR 87 Brandon Tate North Carolina 5.60 6010e 195e 4.45e RS, X
35. DE 50 Cody Brown Connecticut 5.59 6021 240 4.70 DE
36. WR 9 Louis Murphy Florida 5.55 6024 200 4.40e
37. OT 79 Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 5.55 6074e 340e 5.35e Ch.
38. TE 9 Travis Beckum Wisconsin 5.55 6030 240 4.65e H-B. X
39. DT 60 Ron Brace Boston College 5.50 6031 330 5.30e
40. SS 25 Michael Hamlin Clemson 5.50 6023 205 4.60e X, FS
41. DE 81 Will Davis Jr. Illinois 5.50 6020 260 4.80e TE
42. OC 77 Eric Wood Louisville 5.50 6036 305 5.20e
43. WR 2 Demetrius Byrd LSU 5.50 6005 200 4.50e
44. ILB 48 Darry Beckwith LSU 5.50 6004 240 4.60e X
45. FS 27 Curtis Taylor LSU 5.50 6022 210 4.50e SS
46. CB 22 Bruce Johnson Miami (Fla.) 5.50 5100e 175e 4.45e KR
47. DT 67 Terrance Taylor Michigan 5.50 6000e 295e 5.20e
48. QB 7 Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State 5.50 6022 210 4.75e X, Ch.
49. RB 1 James Davis Clemson 5.45 5111 210 4.49e X, KR
50. DT 95 Jeff Owens Georgia 5.45 6007 300 5.00e X, E
51. OG 79 Herman Johnson LSU 5.45 6067 390 5.20e OT
52. WR 1 Brooks Foster North Carolina 5.45 6030e 190e 4.45e
53. WR 80 Brian Robiskie Ohio State 5.45 6020e 190e 4.52e KR
54. DE 11 Michael Bennett Texas A&M 5.45 6034e 265e 4.85e Ch.
55. DT 75 Fili Moala USC 5.45 6042e 280e 5.15e Ch., DE
56. CB 7 Cary Harris USC 5.45 5112 185 4.55e
57. CB 1 Victor "Macho" Harris Virginia Tech 5.42 5111 190 4.66 KR
58. CB 8 Brandon Underwood Cincinnati 5.40 6004e 175e 4.45e S
59. WR 1 Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia 5.40 6013 205 4.55e
60. DT 99 Vance Walker Georgia Tech 5.40 6016 300 5.05e DE
61. RB 23 Javon Ringer Michigan State 5.40 5090e 200e 4.55e X, KR
62. OG 66 Andy Levitre Oregon State 5.40 6020 320 5.25e C, OT
63. TE 1 Shawn Nelson Southern Mississippi 5.40 6046 235 4.67 H-B
64. CB 21 Mike Mickens Cincinnati 5.39 5113 180 4.56 KR
65. CB 1 Darius Butler Connecticut 5.39 5103 185 4.44 WR, KR
66. DT 70 John Gill Northwestern 5.39 6031 290e 5.00e DE
67. OG 63 Kraig Urbik Wisconsin 5.39 6063 330 5.30e
68. CB 6 Domonique Johnson Jackson State 5.38 6015 185 4.56
69. DE 94 Eric Moncur Miami (Fla.) 5.37 6020e 250e 4.80e X, OLB, E
70. RB 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State 5.37 6000e 225e 4.55e X, KR
71. TE 83 Anthony Hill North Carolina State 5.37 6046e 275e 4.90e X, OT
72. WR 19 Sammie Stroughter Oregon State 5.37 5092 185 4.50e KR
73. FB 43 Tony Fiammetta Syracuse 5.37 6001 240 4.60e H-B
74. TE 85 Bear Pascoe Fresno State 5.35 6056 265 4.90e
75. FB 36 Brannan Southerland Georgia 5.35 6000 250 4.65e X
76. DE 91 Derek Walker Illinois 5.35 6032 270 4.80e DT
77. DT 53 Clinton McDonald Memphis 5.35 6015 285 4.79 DE
78. CB 3 Derek Pegues Mississippi State 5.35 5095 195 4.48e Ch., FS
79. FS 27 David Bruton Notre Dame 5.35 6016 205 4.55e
80. OLB 1 Marcus Freeman Ohio State 5.35 6010e 240e 4.5e X
81. SS 15 Patrick Chung Oregon 5.35 5107 210 4.55e
82. CB 6 Keenan Lewis Oregon State 5.35 6006 200 4.50e S
83. OT 76 Gerald Cadogan Penn State 5.35 6040e 310e 5.25e OG
84. DT 71 Alex Magee Purdue 5.35 6024 295 4.95e DE
85. DE 91 Pannel Egboh Stanford 5.35 6054e 275e 4.85e DT
86. OT 77 Troy Kropog Tulane 5.35 6056 290 4.90e
87. TE 85 John Phillips Virginia 5.35 6053 250 4.85e
88. RB 5 Devin Moore Wyoming 5.35 5091 185 4.46 RS
89. ILB 1 Worrell Williams California 5.33 6010e 250e 4.75e OLB
90. DT 97 Dorell Scott Clemson 5.33 6036 310 5.00e
91. FS 9 Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 5.33 6016 210 4.51
92. OLB 11 DeAndre Levy Wisconsin 5.33 6026 230 4.55e X
93. RB 3 Rashad Jennings Liberty 5.32 6010 230 4.64
94. CB 14 Morgan Trent Michigan 5.32 6010e 190e 4.50e
95. WR 4 Brandon Gibson Washington State 5.32 6001 200 4.55e
96. DT 86 George Hypolite Colorado 5.30 6007 290 5.00e
97. DT 95 Darryl Richard Georgia Tech 5.30 6023 300 5.05e X
98. CB 2 Kevin Barnes Maryland 5.30 6004 180 4.47 X
99. WR 4 Marko Mitchell Nevada 5.30 6034e 200e 4.49
100. WR 7 Tiquan Underwood Rutgers 5.30 6012 175 4.45e KR
101. FS 36 Courtney Greene Rutgers 5.30 6003 215 4.50e
102. PT 15 Thomas Morstead SMU 5.30 6041 232 4.90e
103. WR 11 Kenny McKinley South Carolina 5.30 6000e 180e 4.50e X
104. OG 66 Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State 5.30 6033 315 5.20e OT, Ch.
105. ILB 58 Antonio Appleby Virginia 5.30 6030 250 4.70e DE
106. DE 92 Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 5.30 6051 245 4.75e X
107. OLB 2 Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin 5.30 6006 225 4.45e
108. OLB 56 Zack Follett California 5.27 6016 230 4.70e
109. OT 50 T.J. Lang Eastern Michigan 5.27 6043 305 5.21 OG
110. CB 19 Glover Quin New Mexico 5.27 5112 200 4.56
111. WR 10 Mike Thomas Arizona 5.25 5082 200 4.50e
112. OC 63 Jonathan Luigs Arkansas 5.25 6036 310 5.06 OG
113. OLB 99 Direll Briggs Bowling Green 5.25 6026 230 4.75e DE
114. TE 19 Jared Bronson Central Washington 5.25 6041 255 4.78 X, Age
115. DE 89 Connor Barwin Cincinnati 5.25 6036 250 4.64
116. OT 64 William Beatty Connecticut 5.25 6060 300 5.17
117. CB 4 Tony Carter Florida State 5.25 5087 165 4.50e
118. DT 90 Corvey Irvin Georgia 5.25 6026 290 5.05e
119. DE 90 Tim Jamison Michigan 5.25 6030e 265e 4.85e
120. FS 21 Otis Wiley Michigan State 5.25 6020e 210e 4.55e
121. OLB 22 Jamar Chaney Mississippi State 5.25 6004 240 4.57 ILB, X, E
122. OT 75 Garrett Reynolds North Carolina 5.25 6070e 310e 5.30e
123. RB 24 Jeremiah Johnson Oregon 5.25 5090 205 4.55e RS
124. ILB 52 Jasper Brinkley South Carolina 5.25 6020e 260e 4.75e X, DE
125. ILB 39 Jason Phillips TCU 5.25 6011 235 4.59
126. DT 92 Terrance Knighton Temple 5.25 6027 295 5.08
127. OG 55 Cedric Dockery Texas 5.25 6034e 320e 5.30e
128. QB 6 Graham Harrell Texas Tech 5.25 6021 200 5.00e
129. DE 84 Kyle Moore USC 5.25 6052 265 4.85e
130. RB 41 Ian Johnson Boise State 5.23 5105 200 4.56 X
131. OLB 7 Kevin Akins Boston College 5.23 6017 230 4.55e CB
132. WR 11 Ramses Barden Cal Poly 5.23 6060e 220e 4.60e
133. QB 13 Michael Reilly Central Washington 5.23 6026 210 4.89
134. QB 10 Cullen Harper Clemson 5.23 6030 220 4.95e X
135. OT 56 Augustus Parrish Kent State 5.23 6040 295 5.18 OG
136. OC 60 Edwin Williams Maryland 5.23 6024 315 5.55
137. ILB 30 Josh Mauga Nevada 5.23 6013 250 4.64 OLB
138. CB 6 Wopamo Osaisai Stanford 5.23 5104e 200e 4.45e
139. RB 28 Javarris Williams Tennessee State 5.23 5093 220 4.60e
140. WR 8 Jordan Shipley Texas 5.23 5114e 195e 4.50e E
141. DE 90 Orion Martin Virginia Tech 5.23 6021 250 4.87 OLB
142. OLB 44 Mortty Ivy West Virginia 5.23 6011 235 4.80e
143. WR 27 Jamarko Simmons Western Michigan 5.23 6020e 230e 4.65e H-B
144. OG 70 Roger Allen Missouri Western State 5.20 6031 320 5.49
145. OC 59 Antoine Caldwell Alabama 5.20 6026 300 5.19 OG, Ch.
146. TE 80 Ryan Purvis Boston College 5.20 6037 260 4.85e
147. OLB 7 Anthony Felder California 5.20 6015 235 4.80e
148. WR 80 Aaron Kelly Clemson 5.20 6045 185 4.60e
149. CB 32 Jahi Word-Daniels Georgia Tech 5.20 5114 190 4.55e
150. OT 75 Alex Boone Ohio State 5.20 6070e 315e 5.30e Ch.


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18. DE 93 Michael Johnson Georgia Tech 5.80 6070 260 4.65e PRS, X

I think the Lions should draft him #1 overall. He is the same size as Mario Williams, He does not weigh as much but can put on the pounds. He's an excellent pass rusher and would help immediately.

Mario has worked out really well for the Texans, so I'm hoping the Lions can see that and take Johnson.


There is a draft thread @ firemillen, and I'm going to copy and paste something I wrote there to further my reasoning on wanting Johnson.

If you look @ the first DE taken the past 4 years they are all pretty good.

Demarcus Ware 11th
Mario Williams 1st
Gaines Adams 4th
Chris Long 2nd

If you go even further back, and look at the first DE's taken it's alot of history that the first DE taken is a solid pick. Will Smith, Terrell Suggs, Julius Peppers, Justin Smith, Courtney Brown, Jevon Kearse.

Many good names in there, and most of them are still performing. Just looking @ the history, and at Johnsons size and pass rushing abilitys he could be a force right away, and in the long run.
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Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson

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I like Brian Orakpo myself.. but then again I am a Longhorn fan. :-)

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Javon Ringer - Go State - just kidding.

I have to see what QBs declare first, if none of them do and I had to pick from the list I take Oher.

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Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


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liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


Until he rises into the top 10 on draft projection charts, you don't take him #1 over all, and even if he does you have to STRONGLY consider whether or not you want to pay a LB $50million dollars. That is a question that I would answer in the negative.

I agree that Curry is a beast and would be a huge upgrade to our D, but you don't take him inside the top 5 when he's not projected to be picked inside the top 10.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


Until he rises into the top 10 on draft projection charts, you don't take him #1 over all, and even if he does you have to STRONGLY consider whether or not you want to pay a LB $50million dollars. That is a question that I would answer in the negative.

I agree that Curry is a beast and would be a huge upgrade to our D, but you don't take him inside the top 5 when he's not projected to be picked inside the top 10.


Right now he is the highest rated on the board. I agree that LB's are not usually picked at #1 overall, but LT was picked at #2 and if the Saints had any idea of how good he would be, they would have taken him at 1


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liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


Until he rises into the top 10 on draft projection charts, you don't take him #1 over all, and even if he does you have to STRONGLY consider whether or not you want to pay a LB $50million dollars. That is a question that I would answer in the negative.

I agree that Curry is a beast and would be a huge upgrade to our D, but you don't take him inside the top 5 when he's not projected to be picked inside the top 10.


Right now he is the highest rated on the board. I agree that LB's are not usually picked at #1 overall, but LT was picked at #2 and if the Saints had any idea of how good he would be, they would have taken him at 1


#1 player on WHOSE board? He's ranked as perhaps the #1 talent, but I highly doubt that ANYONE is considering taking him in the top 5.

LT was picked at #2 at a time where rookies didn't get $50million dollar contracts. In this era you simply cannot draft a LB #1 overall unless he is some freak of nature that is going to be the next Ray Lewis, and even then it's questionable based upon the potential bust factor. EVERY YEAR "guaranteed prospects" bust. No one in the draft is a sure thing, and sure thing LBs don't even make that kind of money.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


Until he rises into the top 10 on draft projection charts, you don't take him #1 over all, and even if he does you have to STRONGLY consider whether or not you want to pay a LB $50million dollars. That is a question that I would answer in the negative.

I agree that Curry is a beast and would be a huge upgrade to our D, but you don't take him inside the top 5 when he's not projected to be picked inside the top 10.


Right now he is the highest rated on the board. I agree that LB's are not usually picked at #1 overall, but LT was picked at #2 and if the Saints had any idea of how good he would be, they would have taken him at 1


#1 player on WHOSE board? He's ranked as perhaps the #1 talent, but I highly doubt that ANYONE is considering taking him in the top 5.

LT was picked at #2 at a time where rookies didn't get $50million dollar contracts. In this era you simply cannot draft a LB #1 overall unless he is some freak of nature that is going to be the next Ray Lewis, and even then it's questionable based upon the potential bust factor. EVERY YEAR "guaranteed prospects" bust. No one in the draft is a sure thing, and sure thing LBs don't even make that kind of money.


As much as I don't like to overpay for players... with what I have read about this kid.. sounds like he'll be worth it though.

Also, as others have mentioned throw him in the mix as players we may draft with our #1 pick and sign whatever one will sign for the cheapest.

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wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
Stallion wrote:
Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


SLB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
6-1 3/4, 250, 4.61

A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


Until he rises into the top 10 on draft projection charts, you don't take him #1 over all, and even if he does you have to STRONGLY consider whether or not you want to pay a LB $50million dollars. That is a question that I would answer in the negative.

I agree that Curry is a beast and would be a huge upgrade to our D, but you don't take him inside the top 5 when he's not projected to be picked inside the top 10.


Right now he is the highest rated on the board. I agree that LB's are not usually picked at #1 overall, but LT was picked at #2 and if the Saints had any idea of how good he would be, they would have taken him at 1


#1 player on WHOSE board? He's ranked as perhaps the #1 talent, but I highly doubt that ANYONE is considering taking him in the top 5.

LT was picked at #2 at a time where rookies didn't get $50million dollar contracts. In this era you simply cannot draft a LB #1 overall unless he is some freak of nature that is going to be the next Ray Lewis, and even then it's questionable based upon the potential bust factor. EVERY YEAR "guaranteed prospects" bust. No one in the draft is a sure thing, and sure thing LBs don't even make that kind of money.


I agree that it is a reach to take an LB at #1 and I doubt it has ever happened. I'm probably not looking at it objectively because the Lions traditionaly have botched there first round picks. I'm hoping there is interest from KC and SF to trade up to get Stafford. We need the extra picks, so many holes! I don't know that I would want to take Orapko at 1. He is being projected to LB by some draft sites.


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Johnson is 6'7" and like 257lbs. This year is his first year starting but he had deent production. He could put on weight but he could lose the speed that makes him what he is. Overall I would take a pass on Johnson


I agree 100%... I'm not that high on Johnson, and I def. wouldn't talk him #1 overall. If I had to take a D player at #1 it would be Orkapo, but I'd rather either take him at 3-5, or take Curry at 8-13.



Right now Curry is the highest rated player on the board and is a position of need for us. If this guy turns out to be anything like L.T. was for the Giants then it would be a no-brainer.


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A thickly built, strong, physical, hard-hitting ’backer with the size, instincts and overall athletic ability to line up at any position in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front. Curry’s value in large part stems from his versatility, as few linebackers possess the skill set to be effective at any position in either system. Might not have the overall length desired in a rush linebacker but has been extremely productive playing over the tight end, and his strength at the point of attack and ability to shed blockers is rare. With knuckle-breaking hand strength, he ragdolls blockers and plays a big man’s game with power. The most complete ’backer to come out in a long time, Curry has few deficiencies in his game and easily could fit into the top five. Scouts love his physical skill set.


If you are going to post someone elses info you should put it in quotation. Secondly Curry is my #1 player but I doubt anyone would take him #1 overall. I would try to possibly work out a deal with him prior to the draft and if you can get him to take a decent ammount less then #1 overall pick should get I would pull the trigger. Otherwise Stafford all the way.

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Stafford would be a great pick, then next year we can have this same exact talk on who to take first overall! :lol:


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Stafford would be a great pick, then next year we can have this same exact talk on who to take first overall! :lol:


We are not one player away from winning games. We need the guy who will be the best for the team in the long run becuase we are not going to turn this around in a year. Stafford is a franchise QB and could lead this team to the promise land one day. S if you want to the lions to draft a LT so we maybe win one extra game thats fine. I want our team to draft a QB who can atleast allow us to think about making a SB run in a couple years.

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