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 Speculate. Who slides to us at #3a. 
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Post Speculate. Who slides to us at #3a.
The first two rounds have been speculated ad-nauseum.

Postulate who you think will slide to us at 3a. Every year, someone that should have been a stone cold lock for the first 2 rounds falls to day 2. Who are they this year?

My guesses:

Michael Johnson DE - If he had come out last year, he goes in the 1st round. Prime example why players should come out early. Financially speaking.
James Lourinitis MLB - See Michael Johnson.
Michael Crabtree WR - Injured. No problem. Waiting to get the problem fixed so he can perform at his pro day. STUPID!!!! He won't be ready to play when the season kicks off. As a result, he slides.


February 23rd, 2009, 3:27 pm
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Crabtree will still be a top 15 pick and Laurinaitis will be gone by the end of round one, unless we take him at 20 that is (like 1/2 the mocks I've found predict). I'd personally rather have Maualuga (especially with his combine incident, he could possibly slide to 20).

Now Michael Johnson on the other hand is a role player. He will only be rushing the qb on passing downs, thus almost taking him out of day 1. He has a lot of bad film on him, most of it occuring on rushing downs. I think that he is a definite possibility at 3a.

There is still a lot of time before the draft, but if Andre Smith doesn't fix his mess he created, he will still be there at 3a, too.

Victor Harris is another player that has slipped recently and I wouldn't be suprized to see him at 3a.

I'll try to come up with a few other guesses this evening.


February 23rd, 2009, 3:40 pm
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Victor Harris is a guy who I would love have fall to us at pick #65. He has been slipping a bit from his second round projection and could be there.


February 23rd, 2009, 4:16 pm
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Ohh I was just thinking about this as well, day 2 would mean at least round 4, right? So are we looking for 3a sleepers or day 2 sleepers?


February 23rd, 2009, 4:20 pm
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I thought you meant third pick. (33). Until I realized it was third round.

But at round three? None of those guys will be available.

Michael Johnson can slip, but he had way to good of a combine for someone not to take him in the first two rounds.

In third round.

Marcus Freeman
Cody Brown
Gerald McRath
Coye Francies
Macho Harris
Captain Munnerlyn
Duke Robinson
Kraig Urbik
Patrick Chung
Jamon Meredith
Fenuki Tupou
Rashad Johnson
Chip Vaughn
Michael Hamlin
Jared Cook
Cornelius Ingram
Rashad Jennings
Pat White
Max Unger
Juaquin Iglesias
Mohammed Massaquoi
Brian Robiskie
Derrick Williams
Josh Freeman

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February 23rd, 2009, 4:23 pm
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I think starting last year just the first two rounds were on Saturday


February 23rd, 2009, 4:25 pm
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garyos16 wrote:
I think starting last year just the first two rounds were on Saturday


Right, 3rd round now starts off Sunday


February 23rd, 2009, 4:31 pm
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faulkn22 wrote:
Ohh I was just thinking about this as well, day 2 would mean at least round 4, right? So are we looking for 3a sleepers or day 2 sleepers?
Day 1 is rounds 1 and 2. Day 2 is rounds 3-7.


February 23rd, 2009, 4:45 pm
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Honolulu_Blue wrote:
I thought you meant third pick. (33). Until I realized it was third round.

But at round three? None of those guys will be available.

Michael Johnson can slip, but he had way to good of a combine for someone not to take him in the first two rounds.

In third round.

Marcus Freeman
Cody Brown
Gerald McRath
Coye Francies
Macho Harris
Captain Munnerlyn
Duke Robinson
Kraig Urbik
Patrick Chung
Jamon Meredith
Fenuki Tupou
Rashad Johnson
Chip Vaughn
Michael Hamlin
Jared Cook
Cornelius Ingram
Rashad Jennings
Pat White
Max Unger
Juaquin Iglesias
Mohammed Massaquoi
Brian Robiskie
Derrick Williams
Josh Freeman


I'm talking specifically about players that are projected in the first 2 rounds that will slide to us at round 3A. The first pick of day 2.
All those players you have listed aren't first 2 rounds projected.


February 23rd, 2009, 4:48 pm
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Michael Johnson should not have come out last year. He wasn't even a starter till this year.

James Lourinitis could easily slip out of round 1. He didn't have a great combine, he didn't participate in the senior bowl, and he isn't that good anyway.

No way Andre Smith falls to the third round.


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Oh really?

None of them? You'd be surprised. Do some research on them before risking sounding like an idiot.

Marcus Freeman (Round 2-3)
Cody Brown (Round 2-3)
Gerald McRath (Round 2-3)
Coye Francies (Round 2)
Macho Harris (Round 2-3)
Captain Munnerlyn (Round 3)
Duke Robinson (Round 2)
Kraig Urbik (Round 2)
Patrick Chung (Round 2)
Jamon Meredith (Round 2)
Fenuki Tupou (Round 2-3)
Rashad Johnson (Round 3)
Chip Vaughn (Round 2-4)
Michael Hamlin (Round 2)
Jared Cook (Round 2-3)
Cornelius Ingram (Round 2)
Rashad Jennings (Round 2)
Pat White (Round 2-3)
Max Unger (Round 2)
Juaquin Iglesias (Round 2-3)
Mohammed Massaquoi (Round 2-3)
Brian Robiskie (Round (2-3)
Derrick Williams (Round 2-3)
Josh Freeman (Round 1-2)

It's not the pipe dream of having those first rounders you have falling to the third round.

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February 23rd, 2009, 5:08 pm
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Honolulu_Blue wrote:
Oh really?

None of them? You'd be surprised. Do some research on them before risking sounding like an idiot.

Marcus Freeman (Round 2-3)
Cody Brown (Round 2-3)
Gerald McRath (Round 2-3)
Coye Francies (Round 2)
Macho Harris (Round 2-3)
Captain Munnerlyn (Round 3)
Duke Robinson (Round 2)
Kraig Urbik (Round 2)
Patrick Chung (Round 2)
Jamon Meredith (Round 2)
Fenuki Tupou (Round 2-3)
Rashad Johnson (Round 3)
Chip Vaughn (Round 2-4)
Michael Hamlin (Round 2)
Jared Cook (Round 2-3)
Cornelius Ingram (Round 2)
Rashad Jennings (Round 2)
Pat White (Round 2-3)
Max Unger (Round 2)
Juaquin Iglesias (Round 2-3)
Mohammed Massaquoi (Round 2-3)
Brian Robiskie (Round (2-3)
Derrick Williams (Round 2-3)
Josh Freeman (Round 1-2)

It's not the pipe dream of having those first rounders you have falling to the third round.


Read what I said. I did not say that NONE of them were rated as 1st or second round.

I said that all of them weren't rated that high. take a pill. I wasn't dissing you or anything.

And I am referring specifically to players that are hard set as 1st or 2nd round players in most projections that will fall to the beginning of the 3rd round. For instance, if they are projected to go somewhere between the 2nd - 4th round. They haven't really fallen to the 3rd round now have they?
I just thought I had explained well enough what I was talking about in the first post of this thread. I guess not. So, I was just trying to explain it more thoroughly.


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All those players you have listed aren't first 2 rounds projected.


That's pretty definitive.

You asked for a list of guys projected higher who could be available at the third round pick. I took the time, researched, and gave you one.

Now if you're going to make a statement like what's quoted above without even taking the time to verify? You risk sounding like a idiot.

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I see you added more to your post.

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And I am referring specifically to players that are hard set as 1st or 2nd round players in most projections that will fall to the beginning of the 3rd round.


Now if a player is "hard set" as 1st or 2nd round players. They are going to go in the first or second round. As we move deeper into the draft obviously it's harder to project where a player will fall... so you get these ranges.

You've got a conundrum here. You want to know of any player who you know will go in the first or second round who will be available in the third? Help me out here. Your excercise begs for 'range' type projecting, but you won't permit it?

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Honolulu_Blue wrote:
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All those players you have listed aren't first 2 rounds projected.


That's pretty definitive.

You asked for a list of guys projected higher who could be available at the third round pick. I took the time, researched, and gave you one.

Now if you're going to make a statement like what's quoted above without even taking the time to verify? You risk sounding like a idiot.


I think he is talking about guys like Dan Connor. Last year, some had him as a top ten pick, and somehow he fell all the way to the middle of round three. Or when Brady Quinn was projected top three and fell into the 20's.

I think Billy is talking about us taking risks and shooting out some real shockers. Not guys that were on the cusp.


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