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steensn
RIP Killer
Joined: June 26th, 2006, 1:03 pm Posts: 13429
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I think well end up 2 with suh.
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| December 19th, 2009, 3:02 pm |
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dmudd
Varsity Benchwarmer
Joined: July 23rd, 2009, 3:30 pm Posts: 237
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i have hyped suh so much in my head i would be disappointed with any thing else except trading down and getting haden.....i wouldn't be ex-static but id take berry to
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| December 20th, 2009, 1:52 am |
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kdsberman
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: February 20th, 2007, 10:51 pm Posts: 2969 Location: Saginaw, MI
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dmudd wrote: i have hyped suh so much in my head i would be disappointed with any thing else except trading down and getting haden.....i wouldn't be ex-static but id take berry to
I want Suh also, im sure almost everyone does. But how come it sounds like you'd rather have Haden than Berry?
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| December 20th, 2009, 9:46 am |
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lightning_in_a_bottle
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: March 6th, 2006, 1:29 am Posts: 2490 Location: The Terrordome
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Cleveland wins.
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| December 20th, 2009, 6:01 pm |
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inheritedlionsfan
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: January 13th, 2006, 4:18 am Posts: 2896 Location: Maryland
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Tampa won today so that moves us to #2 right?
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| December 20th, 2009, 10:49 pm |
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SimplePoster
Div 1 - Starter
Joined: April 1st, 2007, 11:31 pm Posts: 532 Location: Stevens Point, WI
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I know some people are excited about moving up the board but I think this blows. The Lions can simply just not afford to have so much money tied up in so few players and the higher up they move the less likely a trade down scenario becomes. I just don't think they'll manage to trade out of a top 3 spot. At that point I say just don't pick and drop down the board a ways. That's what was suggested last year and would be a valid argument again.
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| December 20th, 2009, 10:57 pm |
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lightning_in_a_bottle
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: March 6th, 2006, 1:29 am Posts: 2490 Location: The Terrordome
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SimplePoster wrote: I know some people are excited about moving up the board but I think this blows. The Lions can simply just not afford to have so much money tied up in so few players and the higher up they move the less likely a trade down scenario becomes. I just don't think they'll manage to trade out of a top 3 spot. At that point I say just don't pick and drop down the board a ways. That's what was suggested last year and would be a valid argument again.
Let's see what happens. That Chicago game is totally winnable and San Fran have been unpredictable this year.
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| December 20th, 2009, 11:16 pm |
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kdsberman
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: February 20th, 2007, 10:51 pm Posts: 2969 Location: Saginaw, MI
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I agree about it sucking to be picking that high...BUT...if we know we can get Suh at #2, its almost like getting a defensive "calvin johnson"..as far as value goes.
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| December 20th, 2009, 11:18 pm |
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Wayne Fontes
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 am Posts: 1919 Location: A2
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Does anyone have the most up to date strength of schedules? Are the Lions at 2 or 3?
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| December 21st, 2009, 12:23 am |
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steensn
RIP Killer
Joined: June 26th, 2006, 1:03 pm Posts: 13429
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SimplePoster wrote: I know some people are excited about moving up the board but I think this blows. The Lions can simply just not afford to have so much money tied up in so few players and the higher up they move the less likely a trade down scenario becomes. I just don't think they'll manage to trade out of a top 3 spot. At that point I say just don't pick and drop down the board a ways. That's what was suggested last year and would be a valid argument again.
I'm hoping someone covets him or a QB so much we trade back and pick up extra first and seconds.
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| December 21st, 2009, 12:38 am |
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mwill2
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 9:00 am Posts: 1839 Location: Greensboro, NC
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steensn wrote: SimplePoster wrote: I know some people are excited about moving up the board but I think this blows. The Lions can simply just not afford to have so much money tied up in so few players and the higher up they move the less likely a trade down scenario becomes. I just don't think they'll manage to trade out of a top 3 spot. At that point I say just don't pick and drop down the board a ways. That's what was suggested last year and would be a valid argument again. I'm hoping someone covets him or a QB so much we trade back and pick up extra first and seconds.
I agree. In this particular draft, being at #2 is better than being at #4. If Suh is there at #2, that is the Lions' opportunity to trade down and stockpile picks. If a great offer isn't there, then drafting Suh is a pretty good plan B. If we were at #4, Suh would likely be gone so the opportunity to trade down probably wouldn't be there.
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| December 21st, 2009, 2:40 am |
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SimplePoster
Div 1 - Starter
Joined: April 1st, 2007, 11:31 pm Posts: 532 Location: Stevens Point, WI
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mwill2 wrote: steensn wrote: SimplePoster wrote: I know some people are excited about moving up the board but I think this blows. The Lions can simply just not afford to have so much money tied up in so few players and the higher up they move the less likely a trade down scenario becomes. I just don't think they'll manage to trade out of a top 3 spot. At that point I say just don't pick and drop down the board a ways. That's what was suggested last year and would be a valid argument again. I'm hoping someone covets him or a QB so much we trade back and pick up extra first and seconds. I agree. In this particular draft, being at #2 is better than being at #4. If Suh is there at #2, that is the Lions' opportunity to trade down and stockpile picks. If a great offer isn't there, then drafting Suh is a pretty good plan B. If we were at #4, Suh would likely be gone so the opportunity to trade down probably wouldn't be there.
That's one angle I didn't really think about. I don't think that the QB is a big draw this draft so if Suh goes #1 it tosses that scenario. Who really knows though. Hope for the best no matter what their draft position is. Maybe the football gods will be kind.
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| December 21st, 2009, 7:09 am |
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wjb21ndtown
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
Joined: October 13th, 2005, 9:26 pm Posts: 11927 Location: Grosse Pointe
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Wayne Fontes wrote: Does anyone have the most up to date strength of schedules? Are the Lions at 2 or 3?
FWIW... 97.1 says that the Lions currently have the 2nd overall pick.
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| December 21st, 2009, 10:27 am |
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slybri19
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
Joined: August 7th, 2004, 4:47 am Posts: 10744 Location: Sterling Heights, MI
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Even though tonight's game affects the strength of schedule for the top three, it's clear that the Lions would have the 2nd overall pick. Obviously, the Rams would be first with only one win. The Lions would pick before the Bucs since their opponents have 115 wins, while Tampa's opponents have 126 wins. That could change after tonight, but it won't matter much.
BTW, the reason that the Lions moved so far ahead of Tampa for the second pick was because every NFC North team lost, while every NFC South team won this week.
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| December 21st, 2009, 11:56 am |
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LionsFan4Life
Fired Head Coach (0-16 record)
Joined: October 30th, 2004, 12:30 pm Posts: 2187 Location: Austin, TX
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slybri19 wrote: Even though tonight's game affects the strength of schedule for the top three, it's clear that the Lions would have the 2nd overall pick. Obviously, the Rams would be first with only one win. The Lions would pick before the Bucs since their opponents have 115 wins, while Tampa's opponents have 126 wins. That could change after tonight, but it won't matter much.
BTW, the reason that the Lions moved so far ahead of Tampa for the second pick was because every NFC North team lost, while every NFC South team won this week.
Except the Saints.. they lost.
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