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mwill2
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 9:00 am Posts: 1839 Location: Greensboro, NC
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lightning_in_a_bottle wrote: Suh's not that big. Wikipedia says, "Suh is seen as a perfect fit for the defensive end spot in a 3-4 defense in the NFL." My impression reading this and other sites was that he was Sean Rogers-esque. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
Here, I fixed it so it says he can play 4-3 DT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndamukong_Suh
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| October 31st, 2009, 2:35 am |
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lightning_in_a_bottle
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: March 6th, 2006, 1:29 am Posts: 2490 Location: The Terrordome
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mwill2 wrote: lightning_in_a_bottle wrote: Suh's not that big. Wikipedia says, "Suh is seen as a perfect fit for the defensive end spot in a 3-4 defense in the NFL." My impression reading this and other sites was that he was Sean Rogers-esque. Can someone explain the discrepancy? Here, I fixed it so it says he can play 4-3 DT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndamukong_Suh
Nice! haha
But seriously 305 sounds small for a NT in our system.
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| October 31st, 2009, 7:39 am |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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lightning_in_a_bottle wrote: mwill2 wrote: lightning_in_a_bottle wrote: Suh's not that big. Wikipedia says, "Suh is seen as a perfect fit for the defensive end spot in a 3-4 defense in the NFL." My impression reading this and other sites was that he was Sean Rogers-esque. Can someone explain the discrepancy? Here, I fixed it so it says he can play 4-3 DT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndamukong_SuhNice! haha But seriously 305 sounds small for a NT in our system.
We have the NT for us in Sammie. I know Schwartz has said they want BIG defensive tackles, but Suh plays big. He's disruptive and must be double teamed. That is like having a 340 pounder that no one man can move.
4-3 UT or 3-4 DE.....he'll fit either one.
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| October 31st, 2009, 9:19 am |
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slybri19
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
Joined: August 7th, 2004, 4:47 am Posts: 10738 Location: Sterling Heights, MI
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As M2K said, Suh plays bigger than his size. When he bullrushes, you would think he weighs 330 or so. Also, I'm sure he could add 10-15 lbs. to his frame, if needed.
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| October 31st, 2009, 11:40 am |
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Stallion
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 12:45 pm Posts: 1824
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slybri19 wrote: As M2K said, Suh plays bigger than his size. When he bullrushes, you would think he weighs 330 or so. Also, I'm sure he could add 10-15 lbs. to his frame, if needed. Given Suhs frame he could easily put on weight IMO. Also 6-4 305 isn't exactly small he could probably play NT in allot of 4-3 schemes.
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| October 31st, 2009, 11:59 am |
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sweetd20
Fired Head Coach (0-16 record)
Joined: October 13th, 2005, 9:03 am Posts: 2165
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Suh in pads is pretty impressive, he's one giant tree trunk. He has the arms, legs, and base of a man 20-30 lbs heavier than him.
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| October 31st, 2009, 12:51 pm |
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kdsberman
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: February 20th, 2007, 10:51 pm Posts: 2950 Location: Saginaw, MI
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Im sure most Lions fans want Suh in the 2010 Draft, myself included! But, whats our chances?? I mean, St Louis, Tennessee, Tampa Bay..they all would probably love to get their hands on him. Maybe we can hope they all want a QB?
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| October 31st, 2009, 2:41 pm |
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BillySims
General Manager - Martin Mayhew
Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 6506 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
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Go figure. The year Defensive players rank high enough to take with a top 5 pick, we will be picking around 6-7 if things stay as is. 
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| November 1st, 2009, 1:27 am |
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lightning_in_a_bottle
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: March 6th, 2006, 1:29 am Posts: 2490 Location: The Terrordome
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kdsberman wrote: Im sure most Lions fans want Suh in the 2010 Draft, myself included! But, whats our chances?? I mean, St Louis, Tennessee, Tampa Bay..they all would probably love to get their hands on him. Maybe we can hope they all want a QB?
Slow down, guys. This is the Lions we're talking about. I'm optimistic we'll win a few more games, but to be honest I have my doubts.
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| November 1st, 2009, 12:01 pm |
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Footsoldier32
Mr. Irrelevant
Joined: February 28th, 2007, 12:13 pm Posts: 938
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maybe we draft a couple of guys who can catch the ball. . .
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| November 1st, 2009, 5:12 pm |
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BillySims
General Manager - Martin Mayhew
Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 6506 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
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BillySims wrote: Go figure. The year Defensive players rank high enough to take with a top 5 pick, we will be picking around 6-7 if things stay as is. 
Quoting myself to recant what I said.
We will most certainly have a top 3 pick.
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| November 1st, 2009, 5:18 pm |
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dh86
Millen Draft Pick - Epic Bust
Joined: December 27th, 2006, 4:53 pm Posts: 693
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Suh has been dominant and fits a huge need. Looking like we'll be there when hes available. With our problems, drafting a safety would be inexcusable.
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| November 1st, 2009, 5:59 pm |
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lightning_in_a_bottle
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: March 6th, 2006, 1:29 am Posts: 2490 Location: The Terrordome
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Does head-to-head override strength of schedule? If so it looks like we're in good shape guys. 
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| November 2nd, 2009, 1:37 am |
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DJ-B
Position Coach
Joined: April 5th, 2007, 5:51 pm Posts: 2029
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I think so (1 would hope so) but I am not sure.
Good recant Billy, Im with you now. I DONT think St Louis is a better team, look at the game Stats. Its the same problem as before, No Scoring in the Red Zone - Hell alsmot no scoring from anywhere on the field. No CJ = No Wins for this team. We dont have the line or RB to have our identity be running, Our Qb is just OK (hes a rook) but looks like he has the talent if we surround him, to be at least a decent Qb in the league (and we could use decent and stable), so We have No offensive Identity, and sucky special teams. That makes scoring Hard.
However, I do think we are competing with the Browns, St Louis, Oakland, KC and Tampa Bay for picks 1-5. Tennesee got the spark they needed, and will probably end with at LEAST 4 wins - if not 6+. I cant tell you which of the teams are worst (I would have sait St Louis before today) , but I honeslty think the Lions will end up picking 3-6.
With Cj back, I think we will even be favored to beat Cleveland. Seattle is a toss up, On paper they are better, but they are injured worse than we are, and just got blasted again. That said I am not confident about any game.
I think we Beat Cleveland Or Seattle, and then iN True Lions fashion we win 1 game we shouldant near the end of the year to finish 3-13.
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| November 2nd, 2009, 4:01 am |
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slybri19
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
Joined: August 7th, 2004, 4:47 am Posts: 10738 Location: Sterling Heights, MI
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Head to head is not a tie-breaker when determining the draft order. If two teams have the same record, SOS is the first tie-breaker. After that, it's divisional record (if the teams are in the same division) and conference record (if the teams are in the same conference). Finally, it comes down to a coin flip. Also, the order for teams that make the playoffs has changed this year, but I don't think the Lions have to worry about that. 
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| November 2nd, 2009, 9:47 am |
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