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50 Man Roster with current signed players


Eddie Drummond is still not signed

Five picks in the Draft

Which veterans will be cut??????

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April 22nd, 2005, 2:20 pm
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And Fitz isn't signed yet either.

Vernon Fox, Earl Holmes, Bracy Walker, Brock Marion, Az Hakim could all be possibilities.

Mike Echols is signed as well, I can't see him being on the active roster though...

Big Daddy is a possibility if they draft a solid DT.

Kalimba if they draft a DE could as well.

Dirty Davis if they draft DJ, or move Lehman to MLB and cut Holmes?

Lots of possibilities.


April 22nd, 2005, 2:23 pm
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Dan Wilkinson 2.125 Base salary

Brock Marion 1.35 Base Salary

Az Hakim 2.35 Base Salray

James Hall 2.25 Base Salary

Earl Holmes 1.550 Base Salary

Which could be June 1rst considerations .. Wheres are cap guy? What about cutting Joey and starting ALEX SMITH? hes supposed to get 5mill base salary?

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April 22nd, 2005, 2:27 pm
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Ferris wrote:
Which could be June 1rst considerations .. Wheres are cap guy? What about cutting Joey and starting ALEX SMITH? hes supposed to get 5mill base salary?


If that happens I would be pissed beyond belief. I have a $50 bet that the Lions will win the first game of the playoffs. Joey getting the axe could be possible, but not likely, even if we draft Smith. Garcia would start over Smith anyday, Mooch likes to play his proven vets - even if they do suck (Bracy walker, Brock Marion).

Big Daddy could be cut if we got a guy like Hawthorne, Castillo or Mosely in the draft. Hall won't be cut. Az could easily be cut.


April 22nd, 2005, 2:31 pm
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I thought that Vernon Fox just resigned??? 8)

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April 22nd, 2005, 2:33 pm
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Fox did just re-sign. His deal was only 1 year as far as I know. He could always get cut because he's not good enough. I don't think it would affect the cap because we haven't paid him any money yet, unless he got a SB.


April 22nd, 2005, 2:45 pm
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I'm sitting here thinking...

It seems like we have a lot of guys under a one year contract plus the guys whose contracts are up next year anyway. I'm wondering what kind of salary cap purges are being planned - cuts that happen after 1/Jun so that the cap hit happens next year.

It just feels like a long term plan to protect ourselves next year.

So who will they cut that will cause a big hit next year?


April 22nd, 2005, 2:55 pm
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Ferris wrote:
Dan Wilkinson 2.125 Base salary

Brock Marion 1.35 Base Salary

Az Hakim 2.35 Base Salray

James Hall 2.25 Base Salary

Earl Holmes 1.550 Base Salary

Which could be June 1rst considerations .. Wheres are cap guy? What about cutting Joey and starting ALEX SMITH? hes supposed to get 5mill base salary?


There is no way that James Hall gets cut... the others are probable... but Detroit only has 5 picks, and some may not make the team. Players like Jared Devries may not make it, guys at a deep position that if the Lions draft someone will be pushed off.

Alex Smith won't fall to the Lions pick... no way.


April 22nd, 2005, 3:13 pm
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Ferris wrote:
Dan Wilkinson 2.125 Base salary

Brock Marion 1.35 Base Salary

Az Hakim 2.35 Base Salray

James Hall 2.25 Base Salary

Earl Holmes 1.550 Base Salary

Which could be June 1rst considerations .. Wheres are cap guy? What about cutting Joey and starting ALEX SMITH? hes supposed to get 5mill base salary?


You can't just look at their base salaries, but the impact of their signing bonus allocations left on their contracts. Earl Holmes, Az, Bracy Walker, Vernon Fox, Mike Echols, Jamel White, Paul Smith, Kalimba Edwards, Jared DeVries, Dan Wilkinson are all possibilities. Tyrone Hopson is another. The Lions will decide who to cut after the draft.

REMEMBER, ONLY THE TOP 51 PLAYER SALARIES COUNT AGAINST THE CAP AT THIS TIME OF YEAR

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April 22nd, 2005, 3:25 pm
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James Hall is contracted through 2008, I seriously doubt we cut him.


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even though it is a 53 man roster you have to factor in injuries...


April 22nd, 2005, 4:29 pm
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Az and Brock - hasta la vista! IF the Lions could pull off a trade for Az that would be a miracle, I don't see that happening. Both these players are gone - maybe even before June 1 if they want to take the hit this year.

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First thing

someone explain to me how to put another persons quote up like Mike L. Said: I havent been able to figure that one out yet...

secondly... I know the base salary is not all that counts hence the reason I put the questioin to the cap expert however that might be>>> definitely not me

Thirdly Ive heard rumor the Lions have found a suitor allowing them to trade down.. has anybody else heard that?

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I would say the signing of KJ all but assure Az-Hakim gets cut or takes a major salary cut.
Marion is a Mooch guy so I doubt he moves on.
Hall is going no where.
Big Daddy is a positive influence on Shaun Rogers so I doubt hes leaving.
DeVries is versatile but could get cut if they get a DT and DE in the draft.
Kalimba Edwards is a high probability of getting cut if we draft a DE and he doesnt have a real good camp and preseason.
Holmes is a bubble boy , if they draft DJ and a MLB prospect I could see Lehman and the other prospect fighting for that job.


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Ferris wrote:
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someone explain to me how to put another persons quote up like Mike L. Said: I havent been able to figure that one out yet...


Just click the quote button in their post before you try to reply to it. It'll automatically take you to the reply thing.

You can delete some of the text within the initial person's post, like I did with yours, it limits the size of the reply so you don't post everything and just want to address a certain comment. Hope that was helpful!

Lastly, I have not heard the trade down rumor.


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