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How is Dunlap going as high as #6? Oh, Al Davis - nevermind...

I really hope some QBs jump into the top 3 picks...

Assuming Suh is gone, if the pick is between McCoy, Berry and Okung who do you take?

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Derrick Morgan. :D

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Derrick Morgan. :D

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I'm assuming he is gone as well, Suh, Morgan and some chump QB...

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How is Dunlap going as high as #6? Oh, Al Davis - nevermind...

I really hope some QBs jump into the top 3 picks...

Assuming Suh is gone, if the pick is between McCoy, Berry and Okung who do you take?


McCoy or Okung, IMO...


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Since it's more than likely a given that Suh will be gone.. I'd take McCoy.. as much as I hate to say that seeing he comes from that school in Oklahoma.

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Regarding Okung..

If we took him and he started at LT right away, how much of an immediate improvement would he be over Backus?

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I found a new 5 round mock draft today. As always, I don't agree with some of their player rankings, but it's fun to look at nonetheless.
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New Year’s Day Mock Draft — Five Rounds of Fun
January 1st, 2010 Pete Dymeck
1. St. Louis Rams — QB Jimmy Clausen (Notre Dame)*

The Rams had to ride 2009 out with Marc Bulger because of his contract. In 2010, Bulger will be gone and the Rams will be criticized mightily because they will more than likely take Clausen over Ndamukong Suh. Regardless, this team needs a franchise quarterback and Jimmy Clausen is the best to come out since Peyton Manning. Besides, two of the last three years, the Rams selected a defensive lineman. It is time to go with a franchise passer.

2. Detroit Lions — DT Ndamukong Suh (Nebraska)

Luckily for the Lions, they get the best player in the draft and fill a hole immediately. Ndamukong Suh will penetrate gaps, disturb the passer, and attack the rusher. He is the best defensive tackle prospect that we have seen in years and will appropriately create a heated debate as why he wasn’t selected first overall.

3. Kansas City Chiefs — OT Russell Okung (Oklahoma State)

Is it me or did this franchise begin to show signs of drafting value instead of talent last year when they grabbed Tyson Jackson over Aaron Curry? If that is the case, don’t be surprised to see them do it again in 2010 because their offensive line has been atrocious and Okung represents the best value at the three spot.

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — S Eric Berry (Tennessee)*

The Buccaneers need a defensive tackle bad. Unfortunately, in no way shape or form do they draft Gerald McCoy (Oklahoma) because he is not a suitable fit for this defense. Berry could come in and have a large impact right away and the risk with him over McCoy is much lower.

5. Washington Redskins — QB Sam Bradford (Oklahoma)*

Dan Snyder, the owner of the ‘Skins is fed up so look for him to bring in a new “face of the franchise” to be paired alongside his new coach, whether it is Mike Shanahan or not.

6. Cleveland Browns — ILB Rolando McClain (Alabama)*

This guy’s stock will continue to skyrocket before the draft. He has played inside, outside, and even defensive end so far for the Crimson Tide. He is big and drifty but great at flipping his hips and catching the rusher. A natural leader, McClain would be two steps in the right direction for a Cleveland franchise trying to create an identity on defense.

7. Seattle Seahawks — OT Anthony Davis (Rutgers)*

Nobody is really talking about this kid being a top ten pick yet but what is the difference between seventh overall and 15th overall? The bottom line is that he is more of a fit for the Seattle offense than Bruce Campbell. This boulder rock of a left tackle will cement himself into the position that Walter Jones has held down for what seems a lifetime.

8. Buffalo Bills — DT Gerald McCoy (Oklahoma)*

Gerald McCoy is a 4-3 under tackle, not suitable for the 3-4, which is why I have him falling to eighth overall. Come April, he could slide out of the top ten. Still, Buffalo needs a lot of help everywhere but the defensive tackle position has come to hurt them in recent years. They can’t stop the run, period. McCoy is a man built for the task of doing so in the 4-3 and he will start from day one.

9. Oakland Raiders — OT Bruce Campbell (Maryland)*

As athletic of an offensive tackle that we will find in this draft, Bruce Campbell is just what Al Davis will be looking for. He will be a workout warrior and that will blind Davis to the fact that he is an injury away from not playing on the gridiron. Campbell brings some baggage, having injured his knees on different occasions. Regardless of his injury history, he is still one of the top left tackles in this draft.

10. Denver Broncos (via Chicago) — QB Ryan Mallett (Arkansas)*

More depth is needed on the defense but Denver is not in a position to pass on someone like Ryan Mallett. They can buy time with Kyle Orton in the city of Denver while Mallett matures into the pocket passer Denver has lacked since John Elway. Mallett compares a lot to Jay Cutler but he doesn’t bring the attitude that Cutler had in Denver.

11. San Francisco 49ers — CB Joe Haden (Florida)*

People are reporting that Nate Clements is moving to free safety so a huge, wide, gaping hole opens up at cornerback for San Francisco. Joe Haden, the best cornerback in this class if he declares, has great range and coverage skills. Think of Ty Law.

12. Jacksonville Jaguars — QB Tim Tebow (Florida)

The crazy thing is that this just might work in Jacksonville. Tebow will bring in money, put butts in the seats, and give the few hundred Jacksonville fans hope for the future.

13. Tennessee Titans — DE Derrick Morgan (Georgia Tech)

Don’t be surprised if Tennessee spends a lot of money on a pass rusher in free agency. Regardless though, they could draft one too due to the contracts that are about to expire shortly.

14. San Francisco 49ers (via Carolina) — OT Joseph Barksdale (LSU)*

If Barksdale sticks around for LSU in 2010, he could be the first offensive tackle selected in 2011. If he doesn’t, he will still be a top 20 selection. San Francisco needs help at right tackle and the very athletic and well-balanced Barksdale would give San Francisco more clout on the o-line.

15. Miami Dolphins — DT Dan Williams (Tennessee)

Dan Williams dominated the line of scrimmage and he will be a great fit for Miami at nose tackle.

16. Pittsburgh Steelers — S Earl Thomas (Texas)*

Safety help will be needed in the Steel City thanks to expiring contracts and lackluster performances.

17. Atlanta Falcons — CB Donovan Warren (Michigan)*

The secondary has not lived up to its expectations.

18. Houston Texans — DT Jared Odrick (Penn State)

Amobi Okoye needs more help on the interior as Houston continues to build up a good defense.

19. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver) — DT Terrence Cody (Alabama)

This is where we will see a mini-run on defensive tackles, the deepest position in this draft.

20. New York Giants — DT Brian Price (UCLA)*

The Giants defensive line was battered and bruised in 2009. It could use some depth on the interior but a pass rusher isn’t out of the question either.

21. New York Jets — DE Allen Bailey (Miami Fl.)*

A 3-4 pass rusher is needed and Allen Bailey, the athletic freak that he is, plays the part.

22. Baltimore Ravens — WR Golden Tate (Notre Dame)*

The need for a wide receiver in Baltimore is obvious. Tate could play out of a “wildcat” package too if Baltimore wants to get trendy.

23. Green Bay Packers — RB C.J. Spiller (Clemson)

You know what, in the NFL, it is not about the running backs age, but more about the running back’s mileage. Ryan Grant does not have as much mileage as say, Michael Turner, but he does need someone to give him a lift and give the Packers offense a change of pace. The Packers have larger needs but they are making due with what they have now and will proceed to doing so in the future.

24. Arizona Cardinals — OT Bryan Bulaga (Iowa)

They seriously need a left tackle. Mike Gandy is trash and that former first rounder from Penn State is doing just fine at right tackle.

25. Cincinnati Bengals — WR Dez Bryant (Oklahoma State)*

The Bengals offense needs a lift. Dez Bryant is the best wide receiver in this class, hands down, and teams are going to shake off his incident with the NCAA.

26. Dallas Cowboys — S Taylor Mays (USC)

The Cowboys need a free safety desperately. Mays seen his stock slide in 2009 but his value is great here. In a couple of years, this former top five pick could be the next Ed Reed.

27. New England Patriots — DE Carlos Dunlap (Florida)*

Look, I know this guy now has a record but Bill Belichick has a history with bringing guys on from Florida. New England’s pass rush is inadequate and Carlos Dunlap is a potential top ten talent that will fall on draft day due to character issues.

28. Minnesota Vikings — DT Marvin Austin (North Carolina)*

His incredible athleticism will provide Minnesota with a security blanket for the future considering that Pat Williams is 36 years old.

29. Philadelphia Eagles — DE Everson Griffen (USC)*

Luckily for the Eagles, Griffen, who has nothing but potential, could slide to them in the draft. Philadelphia needs a pass rusher desperately and they could ill-afford to pass on Griffen in this mock draft.

30. San Diego Chargers — OG Mike Iupati (Idaho)

Unfortunately for San Diego, the top two nose tackles have already been drafted and right now there is nothing but bad value for that position. With that said, San Diego could use this pick to address their offensive line. Iupati is dominant in pass rushing and run blocking. He is a great guard prospect with high upside at the right tackle position as well, which makes sense since Marcus McNeill is cemented in at left tackle.

31. New Orleans Saints — OLB Navorro Bowman (Penn State)*

Strongside linebacker has been an issue for the Saints. Sure, their defense has played above expectations in ‘09 but it could still use some tweaking.

32. Indianapolis Colts — OT Charles Brown (USC)

This guy is a former tight end and could get drafted a lot higher than this, a la Duane Brown a couple of years ago.

Round Two

33. St. Louis Rams — DE Greg Hardy (Ole Miss)

34. Detroit Lions — CB Ras-I Dowling (Virginia)*

35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — OLB Sean Weatherspoon (Missouri)

36. Kansas City Chiefs — TE Jermaine Gresham (Oklahoma)

37. Cleveland Browns — DE Cameron Heyward (Ohio State)*

38. Washington Redskins — OT Jason Fox (Miami Fl.)

39. Buffalo Bills — QB Jevan Snead (Ole Miss)*

40. Oakland Raiders — OLB Travis Lewis (Oklahoma)*

41. Seattle Seahawks — QB Tony Pike (Cincinnati)

42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (via Chicago) — WR Damian Williams (USC)*

43. New England Patriots (via Jacksonville) — OLB Jerry Hughes (TCU)

44. New England Patriots (via Tennessee) — CB Brandon Ghee (Wake Forest)

45. Carolina Panthers — DT Arthur Jones (Syracuse)

46. Miami Dolphins — RB Ryan Matthews (Fresno State)*

47. San Francisco 49ers — OLB Von Miller (Texas A&M)*

48. Kansas City Chiefs (via Atlanta) — ILB Brandon Spikes (Florida)

49. Houston Texans — RB Jahvid Best (California)*

50. Denver Broncos — WR Arrelious Benn (Illinois)*

51. New York Giants — I/OLB Stevenson Sylvester (Utah)

52. Pittsburgh Steelers — DE Tyson Alualu (California)

53. Baltimore Ravens — CB Javier Arenas (Alabama)

54. New York Jets — CB Trevard Lindley (Kentucky)

55. Green Bay Packers — OLB Sergio Kindle (Texas)

56. Arizona Cardinals — OLB Ricky Sapp (Clemson)

57. New England Patriots — WR Jeremy Williams (Tulane)

58. Cincinnati Bengals — CB Perrish Cox (Oklahoma State)

59. Dallas Cowboys — WR Brandon LaFell (LSU)

60. Minnesota Vikings — QB Colt McCoy (Texas)

61. Philadelphia Eagles — OG Sergio Render (Virginia Tech)

62. San Diego Chargers — RB Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech)*

63. New Orleans Saints — RB Anthony Dixon (Mississippi State)

64. Indianapolis Colts — CB Patrick Robinson (Florida State)*

Round Three

65. St. Louis Rams — DE Greg Romeus (Pittsburgh)

66. Detroit Lions — OT Ciron Black (LSU)

67. Kansas City Chiefs — WR Mardy Gilyard (Cincinnati)

68. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — DT Mike Neal (Purdue)

69. Cleveland Browns — OLB Eric Norwood (South Carolina)

70. Oakland Raiders — S Darrell Stuckey (Kansas)

71. Philadelphia Eagles (via Seattle) — S Chad Jones (LSU)

72. Buffalo Bills — DE Jason Pierre-Paul (South Florida)

73. Chicago Bears — OG Mike Johnson (Alabama)

74. Tennessee Titans — OC Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State)*

75. Carolina Panthers — WR Demaryius Thomas (Georgia Tech)*

76. Miami Dolphins — OLB George Selvie (South Florida)

77. San Francisco 49ers — WR Taylor Price (Ohio)

78. Jacksonville Jaguars — DE Brandon Graham (Michigan)

79. Houston Texans — WR Chris McGaha (Arizona State)

80. Denver Broncos — TE Garrett Graham (Wisconsin)

81. New York Giants — S Nate Allen (South Florida)

82. Pittsburgh Steelers — OC Kristofer O’Dowd (USC)*

83. Atlanta Falcons — WR Terrance Toliver (LSU)*

84. Cleveland Browns (via N.Y. Jets) — CB Kareem Jackson (Alabama)*

85. Baltimore Ravens — TE Dennis Pitta (Brigham Young)

86. Arizona Cardinals — DT/DE Vince Oghobaase (Duke)

87. Green Bay Packers — OT Sam Young (Notre Dame)

88. Cincinnati Bengals — S Morgan Burnett (Georgia Tech)

89. Dallas Cowboys — ILB Daryl Washington (TCU)

90. Oakland Raiders (via New England) — DE Jermaine Cunningham (Florida)

91. Minnesota Vikings — RB Evan Royster (Penn State)*

92. Philadelphia Eagles — ILB Micah Johnson (Kentucky)

93. San Diego Chargers — DT Jay Ross (East Carolina)

94. New Orleans Saints — DT Earl Mitchell (Arizona)

95. Indianapolis Colts — ILB Joe Pawelek (Baylor)

Round Four

96. St. Louis Rams — WR Blair White (Michigan State)

97. Detroit Lions — RB Toby Gerhart (Stanford)

98. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — WR Danario Alexander (Missouri)

99. Kansas City Chiefs — OLB Jason Worilds (Virginia Tech)*

100. Cleveland Browns — S Deunta Williams (North Carolina)

101. Washington Redskins — RB Montario Hardesty (Tennessee)

102. Seattle Seahawks — RB Charles Scott (LSU)

103. Buffalo Bills — DE Jeremy Beal (Oklahoma)*

104. Oakland Raiders — OT Selvish Capers (West Virginia)

105. Chicago Bears — WR Dezmon Briscoe (Kansas)*

106. Carolina Panthers — CB Kyle Wilson (Boise State)

107. Miami Dolphins — S Reshad Jones (Georgia)*

108. San Francisco 49ers — QB Sean Canfield (Oregon State)

109. Jacksonville Jaguars — S Major Wright (Florida)*

110. Tennessee Titans — WR Chris Carter (Cal-Davis)

111. Denver Broncos — DT Ekom Udofia (Stanford)

112. New York Giants — RB Joe McKnight (USC)*

113. Pittsburgh Steelers — ILB Josh Bynes (Auburn)*

114. Atlanta Falcons — DE Austen Lane (Murray State)

115. Houston Texans — S Kam Chancellor (Virginia Tech)

116. Baltimore Ravens — WR Freddie Barnes (Bowling Green)

117. New York Jets — WR Jordan Shipley (Texas)

118. Green Bay Packers — OLB Rico McCoy (Tennessee)

119. Arizona Cardinals — QB Tim Hiller (Western Michigan)

120. Dallas Cowboys — OT Gabe Carimi (Wisconsin)*

121. New England Patriots — CB Crezdon Butler (Clemson)

122. Cincinnati Bengals — CB Syd’Quan Thompson (California)

123. Minnesota Vikings — OT Kyle Calloway (Iowa)

124. Philadelphia Eagles — CB Alterraun Verner (UCLA)

125. San Diego Chargers — DE Corey Wootton (Northwestern)

126. New Orleans Saints — DE Brandon Lang (Troy)

127. Indianapolis Colts — S Myron Rolle (Florida State)

Round Five

128. St. Louis Rams — CB Stephan Virgil (Virgina Tech)

129. Detroit Lions — OLB Greg Jones (Michigan State)*

130. Kansas City Chiefs — CB Kurt Coleman (Ohio State)

131. Cleveland Browns (via Tampa Bay) — TE Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)*

132. Washington Redskins — OG Michael Petrus (Arkansas)

133. Cleveland Browns — QB Jonathan Crompton (Tennessee)

134. Buffalo Bills — OT Derek Hardman (Eastern Kentucky)

135. Oakland Raiders — RB Noel Devine (West Virginia)*

136. Seattle Seahawks — CB Joe Murphy (South Florida)

137. Chicago Bears — DT D’Anthony Smith (Louisiana Tech)

138. Kansas City Chiefs (via Miami) — WR Naaman Roosevelt (Buffalo)

139. San Francisco 49ers — DT Lamarr Houston (Texas)

140. Jacksonville Jaguars — DT Geno Atkins (Georgia)

141. Tennessee Titans — DE Willie Young (North Carolina State)

142. Kansas City Chiefs (via Carolina) — OT Anthony Costanzo (Boston College)

143. New York Giants — OT Chris Scott (Tennessee)

144. Pittsburgh Steelers — RB Chris Brown (Oklahoma)

145. Atlanta Falcons — RB Ben Tate (Auburn)

146. Houston Texans — OLB Roddrick Muckelroy (Texas)

147. Detroit Lions (via Denver) — OG Dan Doering (Iowa)

148. Cleveland Browns (via N.Y. Jets) — DE Ricardo Matthews (Cincinnati)

149. Baltimore Ravens — ILB Sean Lee (Penn State)

150. Arizona Cardinals — OG John Jerry (Ole Miss)

151. Green Bay Packers — CB Sam Shields (Miami Fl.)

152. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (via New England) — DE C.J. Wilson (East Carolina)

153. Cincinnati Bengals — WR Emmanuel Sanders (SMU)

154. Oakland Raiders (via NE via DEN via DAL) — WR Dexter McCluster (Ole Miss)

155. Minnesota Vikings — OLB Reggie Carter (UCLA)

156. St. Louis Rams (via Philadelphia — TE Andrew Quarless (Penn State)

157. San Diego Chargers — WR Jeff Moturi (UTEP)

158. Philadelphia Eagles (via New Orleans) — RB Javarris James (Miami Fl.)

159. Indianapolis Colts — WR Shay Hodge (Ole Miss)

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Player rankings may be screwed a bit... but I wouldn't mind that draft. I think they have better picks available in round 2 through 5, excluding 4, but it wouldn't be so bad.

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That five round mock is a joke. Gerald McCoy doesn't fit a 34? As a NT he doesn't, but he would excel as a DE in a 34.

And Brandon Graham falls to round three? Like I said, a joke.


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Who in the Sam Heck is Ras-I Dowling?
Yes I know he's a CB from Virgina. I have never heard of him before.

Is he worth that pick?

Seems to me we could use that pick for a higher rated player, like Brandon Graham maybe.

Anybody have more info on Dowling?


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Using this mock, how about........

#1 Suh or McCoy DTs
#2 Brandon Graham DE
#3 Mike Johnson OG
#4 Toby Gerhadt RB
#5 Greg Jones OLB

That is assuming the players are even availble at those spots.

All possible starters. Seem pretty far fetched I know. That is except #1.


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12/30/2009 - As holiday gifts go, this one qualifies as extra-special for Mike London. Ras-I Dowling has decided to return to UVa for his senior year. "I thought about it a lot," Dowling said Wednesday morning. "I think it'll be in my best interest to get my degree, work on my game and be at my maximum when it's time for me to go to the NFL." A 6-2, 200-pound cornerback, Dowling was named to the all-ACC second team as a sophomore and again as a junior. In 2010, he'll anchor a secondary that also returns such players as cornerbacks Chase Minnifield and Dom Joseph and safeties Corey Mosley and Rodney McLeod. "Obviously that's probably the biggest recruit we'll get this year," said UVa assistant coach Anthony Poindexter, who was an All-America safety for George Welsh in the '90s. "I'm happy to have him back. I know it was a tough decision for the kid, and it's the same decision I had to make, but obviously our program is going to benefit from him being back, not only on the field, but off the field, too. He's a class act." Dowling played as a true freshman in 2007, when London was UVa's defensive coordinator. London left in January '08 to become head coach at the University of Richmond. He returned to UVa early this month to replace Al Groh. "It helps a lot, knowing the coach that's coming in," said Dowling, who's from Chesapeake. "I know what kind of coach he is." Some mock drafts for 2010 projected Dowling as a first-round pick, but he said his family never pressured him to turn pro early. "They're going to be behind me 100 percent, so they're very supportive of any decision that I make," he said. - Jeff White, Virginia football

12/30/2009 - Virginia cornerback Ras-I Dowling will return for his senior season, Dowling told Virginia's official athletic Web site. Dowling was likely to be rated one of the top cornerbacks in the draft had he left early. At 6 feet 2 and 200 pounds, Dowling provides size unusual for a cornerback combined with speed. He has twice earned second-team all-ACC honors. "I thought about it a lot," Dowling told Jeff White of VirginiaSports.com. "I think it'll be in my best interest to get my degree, work on my game and be at my maximum when it's time for me to go to the NFL." - The Washington Post


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Guess we don't have to concern ourselves about him.

What do you guys about the picks that I listed. Is it possible?


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There is also a guard from Texas Tech who I really like. Can't remember his name. White dude w/shaved and tatt'd head and paints his face,Kiss style.
Dude was a monster against MSU, they say he plays like that all the time.


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m2karateman wrote:
That five round mock is a joke. Gerald McCoy doesn't fit a 34? As a NT he doesn't, but he would excel as a DE in a 34.

And Brandon Graham falls to round three? Like I said, a joke.

I agree and that's why I made the comment about their rankings. But, I have seen Graham falling to the 3rd in the Walter's Football mock and another one that I can't recall. Worse yet, is that they had Jason Pierre-Paul falling to the 3rd, as well. With that said, I don't think it's any worse than other mock drafts that last several rounds like DraftTek and NFL Draft Site.

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