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And then there's those who are both :)

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lightning_in_a_bottle wrote:
I think putting himself out there for criticism is a major error of judgment. I'm sure some of those QBs from Southern schools are bible thumpers, but they have the sense to keep quiet. For a guy to be so vocal about such a divisive topic before he even establishes himself as a pro-level QB seems at best egotistical and at worst downright stupid.


Yeah, Who does Tim Tebow think he is? One of our nations founding fathers?


February 9th, 2010, 9:50 am
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lightning_in_a_bottle wrote:
I think putting himself out there for criticism is a major error of judgment. I'm sure some of those QBs from Southern schools are bible thumpers, but they have the sense to keep quiet. For a guy to be so vocal about such a divisive topic before he even establishes himself as a pro-level QB seems at best egotistical and at worst downright stupid.


Here is your 10%... completely and utterly obsessive and over the top.

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February 9th, 2010, 10:13 am
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You know what, these kids can do what they want. If someone wants to spout off about anything else, go for it. If in the manner that you present your topic you look like a jackass then thats your fault. If you present it in a way that is rational and well thought out then I have no problem with it, regardless of the message. I don't think that by him making statements about his belief system is "stupid" its just him doing what he wants. Does it get overblown? Very much so, and it's the media's fault for it.

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February 9th, 2010, 2:07 pm
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There is potential for backlash, except Tebow isn't going to receive it.

He plays in the south, he'll probably be drafted by a southern team, and most football fans are conservative.

But what if he had starred in a commercial where he criticized capitalism and argued that the US should become a communist country? What would happen then?

Did you guys forget about the Dixey Chicks?


February 9th, 2010, 4:32 pm
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That is the thing Blueskies, he DIDN'T attack the framework of our country regarding capitalism or communism.

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February 9th, 2010, 5:15 pm
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His personal choices aren't the things that have put Tebow on most people's dislike list. In fact I'm sure there are a lot of people that wouldn't normally care for the cat that respect him him because he's a rarity today. The number of good kids is quickly being outnumbered by bad kids with no respect for anyone or anything. I'm not a religious person by any means but as far as being a stand up person we can only hope more kids act like Tebow than say Leaf.

If anything the disdain comes from the media overhype of the man, the myth, the legend, Tim Tebow. The best is Thom Brennman:

http://gators.fandome.com/video/108312/ ... Tim-Tebow/

Tebow is a good human being, I think it's just his nature. He'd probably be that way if he was a christian, muslim, or atheist. What he isn't is a great prospect as a NFL QB. Which isn't a bad thing. He wouldn't be the first former heisman winning QB not to be a star QB in the NFL. The list over the past 20 years is pretty long.


February 9th, 2010, 5:32 pm
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I was talking from a business perspective. In business, you keep your personal views to yourself, period. How many people here think it's a good idea to spout your political or religious views at your place of work? I'm guessing zero. You don't do it because you don't want to possibly alienate your coworkers or even worse your boss. To the extent the NFL is a business, that's why I'm saying it was stupid.

And Blueskies is 100%, I would love to see an incoming rookie who was a Muslim starring in a heartfelt, sensible ad about how women should wear the veil. The heads of the same people cheering for Tebow would explode.

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But instead he did it in his own free time, not at work. I talk religion and politics all the time at lunch and outside of work with coworkers. They know where I stand and no one feels alienated. Blueskies is 100% wrong because you both pick things that are agitating to the country and a hot topic that most people would disagree with. I can name a million as well, but in this case he didn't take a stance one something that far outrageous that he certainly could have. Doesn't all your guys BS mean he was SMART in picking an choosing his battles? Aren't you guys making him look smarter for picking something that is not going to effect his draft or his relationship with players?

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February 10th, 2010, 10:40 am
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An anti-abortion, or excuse me, right to life ad isn't devicive? Why on earth then would planned parenthood recruit a former football player to give a response. At some point Tebow is going to realize that its probably best for him to just keep his mouth shut and go about his business. "Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you" (1 Thes 4:11) Do you think that would ever show up on his eyeblack?

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February 10th, 2010, 11:51 am
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Not like the stupid examples they gave that WOLD make a difference.

All we have to do is look at the results of his decision. He decided to show up in an ad showing him tackling his mother and then giving her a hug to promote people going to a website to hear her story about him. No one involved in football past forums is going to use that to pick him lower or not be able to work with him on a professional level. Only the fans looking for DRAMA dig into this stuff.

All we have to do is look at the end results and people's feedback on this. What was the overwhelming response, "That's it? That is what the fuss is about?"

So why can't we just get back to football and talk about his ability to play in the NFL? Because for sure no one is looking at this and is going rank him lower.

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I don't think that anyone GM will rank him lower because of his stance on abortion, violence against women, or pickles. They're going to see a guy who can't play the position of QB with the skill set that he has now. They may bump him up their board because of his work ethic, but that's it.

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February 10th, 2010, 12:19 pm
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Wayne Fontes wrote:
I don't think that anyone GM will rank him lower because of his stance on abortion, violence against women, or pickles. They're going to see a guy who can't play the position of QB with the skill set that he has now. They may bump him up their board because of his work ethic, but that's it.


Exactly, so what is the fuss over his decision to promote something he believes in?

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February 10th, 2010, 12:26 pm
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Blueskies wrote:
There is potential for backlash, except Tebow isn't going to receive it.

He plays in the south, he'll probably be drafted by a southern team, and most football fans are conservative.

But what if he had starred in a commercial where he criticized capitalism and argued that the US should become a communist country? What would happen then?

Did you guys forget about the Dixey Chicks?


Getting backlash for doing a commercial versus getting backlash for voicing political opinions in the middle of a concert are two entirely different things. When you go to a concert, you don't expect or want to hear the bands political views. Even if you agree with those views, it's possible to say "just shut up about politics and sing already". I believe that's what drove the backlash againt the Dixey Chicks.

If Tebow was being interviewed, before or after a game, being asked about game plans or his game play and he went into a diatribe about being a Christian, or anti-abortion, I'd expect him to receive some backlash, and deservedly so.

The fact that he plays in the South and might be drafted by a Southern team has nothing to do with any of this. The NFL is viewed WORLD WIDE, not just in Southern or Conservative states. His commercial will be seen at least NATIONWIDE, and not just played in Southern or Conservative states.

Sorry Blueskies, but your reasoning is really very poor on this. Your comparison about "what if" doesn't mean all that much either. In regards to abortion, feelings are pretty much 50-50 across the nation, for and against. I think you would find almost all of America would be against Socialism or Communism, even if they don't exactly know that it's being thrust upon them at this very moment.


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I don't get this. I can tell you all that I love god, and Im not a big fan of abbortion all I'd like...does that alienate you guys? Im guesssin not....cuz none of you really give a crap about lil ole me and my oppinion (outside of linons football of course :wink: )


So why care so much about another guy you've never met's opinion? Just cause his name is Tim Tebow, does not mean he has to stop being who he is...He's a good/bad football player by following his own path.

I have one question for all the critics out there...It's HIS path...why the F do you care so much. If you don't like it, do the American thing and IGNORE HIM.

I really just don't get what all the fuss is.....

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