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I think Petersen will go 3-5 and prine will go 6-8 range, which is where I think we end up if we win 1 more game. If we win both we may end up at 10+, and you may be right, we miss out on him. We wont trade up to get him. The most agressive trade weve made so far was swapping 4ths and a 5th (or 6th) to move up 5 spots for best. We arent giving up a 2nd or 3rd to get a CB, we dont have Any needs worth giving up another starter. If we end up at 10 and both are gone, I could see them going strict BPA at CB/LB/DE/OL. 10 wouldnt be a bad spot to get someone like Gabe Carimi of Wisconsin to shore up the Oline.


well im not saying it will happen, but i wouldnt say that it wont happen either. you have to keep in mind at the time of the draft there is a good chance that chris houston isnt on the roster anymore. if there wasnt any quality corners added in free agency and they fall in love with one of them 2 corners i could easily see mayhew making a move. im not saying its gonna happen but its certainly a very possible scenario


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Last year there were 4 CB's taken in the 1st round. Way too soon to say how many will be of that quality this year. In regards to Amakumura and Peterson, we won't have good idea of there standing until shortly before the draft. Already hearing rumblings of Peterson being moved to safety. Last year we took a corner who can't cover, and had to move to safety. Hope that doesn't happen again. Mayhew was a corner in the league, so it seems like he would be a pretty good judge. But, then again he missed on Spievay. The Lions are way to thin at so many positions that I would be sick if they combined picks to move up. I just don't see that happening.


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i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


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I wouldn't be terribly upset if the Lions decided to use a pick in that range on A.J. Green or Julio Jones. Having a quality third receiver would do nothing but benefit the team, and possibly set the team up for the future if Calvin decides to bolt in FA in the future. It would also allow the team to create insane match up problems for the opposing defense, with Burleson working out of the slot at times. Send Jahvid Best out in the slot in four receiver sets with Smith or Morris in the backfield, and it would be awesome.


AJ Green is considered a top 3 talent. If the Lions are sitting in pick 8-10 range and he's still on the board, you trade the pick, no question. Though I think the chances of that scenario playing out are nearly non-existent.


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i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


This from profootballweekly.com: CORNERBACKS

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU*
6-0e, 220e, 4.40e

Peterson is fully expected to enter the NFL draft following his junior season after starring as both a cornerback and return man. He stands out as the most dominant all-around performer since Charles Woodson exited Michigan as the fourth overall selection of the Raiders in 1998. At 6 feet, 220-plus pounds, he is extremely physical at the line of scrimmage in press-man coverage, has terrific ball skills and is aggressive supporting the run. He is so thick that NFL DB coaches could ask him to drop weight or even move him to free safety.

This is just an example, have read the same on another web site as well. Doesn't mean it will happen.


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vankman79 wrote:
i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


This from profootballweekly.com: CORNERBACKS

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU*
6-0e, 220e, 4.40e

Peterson is fully expected to enter the NFL draft following his junior season after starring as both a cornerback and return man. He stands out as the most dominant all-around performer since Charles Woodson exited Michigan as the fourth overall selection of the Raiders in 1998. At 6 feet, 220-plus pounds, he is extremely physical at the line of scrimmage in press-man coverage, has terrific ball skills and is aggressive supporting the run. He is so thick that NFL DB coaches could ask him to drop weight or even move him to free safety.

This is just an example, have read the same on another web site as well. Doesn't mean it will happen.


There are some analysts out there that have reported some scouts are intrigued by the idea of Peterson moving to safety because he could be another Sean Taylor.

I think it will all come down to the team that drafts him. If they have pretty good corners already (say like a Cincinnati) then they might want to take a look at him at safety, because in that way he's an impact on both aspects of the defense, and can read the plays easier and be involved more. With a top flight corner, an offense simply works away from him. With a safety, that's not as easy a thing to do. I think if the Lions were to select Peterson, they put him at corner without hesitation.

Also, while Peterson gets more press, Amukamara has been a far more consistent player and is better in man coverage. I've watched a number of LSU games, and have seen Peterson make plenty of boneheaded mistakes. I think he needs to stop reading his press clippings and start listening to his coaches more. I do think Peterson is more athletically gifted than Amukamara, but those gifts aren't worth anything if he doesn't apply them properly.

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Thank you for typing out whats been in my head but I had a hard time wording. That is exactly how I feel.


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liontrax wrote:
vankman79 wrote:
i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


This from profootballweekly.com: CORNERBACKS

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU*
6-0e, 220e, 4.40e

Peterson is fully expected to enter the NFL draft following his junior season after starring as both a cornerback and return man. He stands out as the most dominant all-around performer since Charles Woodson exited Michigan as the fourth overall selection of the Raiders in 1998. At 6 feet, 220-plus pounds, he is extremely physical at the line of scrimmage in press-man coverage, has terrific ball skills and is aggressive supporting the run. He is so thick that NFL DB coaches could ask him to drop weight or even move him to free safety.

This is just an example, have read the same on another web site as well. Doesn't mean it will happen.


There are some analysts out there that have reported some scouts are intrigued by the idea of Peterson moving to safety because he could be another Sean Taylor.

I think it will all come down to the team that drafts him. If they have pretty good corners already (say like a Cincinnati) then they might want to take a look at him at safety, because in that way he's an impact on both aspects of the defense, and can read the plays easier and be involved more. With a top flight corner, an offense simply works away from him. With a safety, that's not as easy a thing to do. I think if the Lions were to select Peterson, they put him at corner without hesitation.

Also, while Peterson gets more press, Amukamara has been a far more consistent player and is better in man coverage. I've watched a number of LSU games, and have seen Peterson make plenty of boneheaded mistakes. I think he needs to stop reading his press clippings and start listening to his coaches more. I do think Peterson is more athletically gifted than Amukamara, but those gifts aren't worth anything if he doesn't apply them properly.


Have to agree with your take on Amuk and PP. I would be happy with either added to the secondary, if the Lions feel they fit. I realize we need an talent infusion on the corner, but still think LB is the greatest need.


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I guess I am the only one on the board that isn't impressed with Amukamara. I got to see a few of Nebraska's games and he did not jump out to me as head and shoulders above the rest.

Just my take.

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1 Carolina 2-12 .571
2 Denver 3-11 .518
3 Cincinnati 3-11 .585
4 Arizona 4-10 .460
5 Detroit 4-10 .545
6 Buffalo 4-10 .580
7 San Francisco 5-9 .487
8 Dallas 5-9 .518
9 Washington 5-9 .518
10/11F Houston 5-9 .536
10/11F Minnesota 5-9 .536
12 Cleveland 5-9 .571
13 Seattle 6-8 .482
14 Tennessee 6-8 .513
15 New England (from Oakland) 7-7 .469
16 Miami 7-7 .536
17 San Diego 8-6 .451
18 Jacksonville 8-6 .460
19 Tampa Bay 8-6 .473
20 Green Bay 8-6 .522
*21 St. Louis 6-8 .438
*22 Indianapolis 8-6 .487
*23 Kansas City 9-5 .415
*24 New York Giants 9-5 .455
*25 New Orleans 10-4 .460
*26 Chicago 10-4 .464
*27F Philadelphia/New York Jets 10-4 .487
*28F Philadelphia/Baltimore/Jets 10-4 .487
*29F Philadelphia/Baltimore 10-3 .487
*30 Pittsburgh 10-4 .509
*31 Atlanta 12-2 .478
*32 New England 12-2 .504

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slybri19 wrote:
1 Carolina 2-12 .571
2 Denver 3-11 .518
3 Cincinnati 3-11 .585
4 Arizona 4-10 .460
5 Detroit 4-10 .545
6 Buffalo 4-10 .580
7 San Francisco 5-9 .487
8 Dallas 5-9 .518
9 Washington 5-9 .518
10/11F Houston 5-9 .536
10/11F Minnesota 5-9 .536
12 Cleveland 5-9 .571
13 Seattle 6-8 .482
14 Tennessee 6-8 .513
15 New England (from Oakland) 7-7 .469
16 Miami 7-7 .536
17 San Diego 8-6 .451
18 Jacksonville 8-6 .460
19 Tampa Bay 8-6 .473
20 Green Bay 8-6 .522
*21 St. Louis 6-8 .438
*22 Indianapolis 8-6 .487
*23 Kansas City 9-5 .415
*24 New York Giants 9-5 .455
*25 New Orleans 10-4 .460
*26 Chicago 10-4 .464
*27F Philadelphia/New York Jets 10-4 .487
*28F Philadelphia/Baltimore/Jets 10-4 .487
*29F Philadelphia/Baltimore 10-3 .487
*30 Pittsburgh 10-4 .509
*31 Atlanta 12-2 .478
*32 New England 12-2 .504


It is unbelievable that we're just two spots away from a team still in playoff contention. Please let us move to the NFC West. [-o<

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vankman79 wrote:
i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


This from profootballweekly.com: CORNERBACKS

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU*
6-0e, 220e, 4.40e

Peterson is fully expected to enter the NFL draft following his junior season after starring as both a cornerback and return man. He stands out as the most dominant all-around performer since Charles Woodson exited Michigan as the fourth overall selection of the Raiders in 1998. At 6 feet, 220-plus pounds, he is extremely physical at the line of scrimmage in press-man coverage, has terrific ball skills and is aggressive supporting the run. He is so thick that NFL DB coaches could ask him to drop weight or even move him to free safety.

This is just an example, have read the same on another web site as well. Doesn't mean it will happen.


this is basing him moving to safety oh his weight alone, not because he cant cover. its funny how people use this as a knock on him. this article is talking him up. this writer seems to think he is too big to play corner and that appears to be why he suggests a move to safety. i personally like the size he has. he has the size to be physical with any wr in the league. im pretty sure nobody is gonna question his speed.


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vankman79 wrote:
liontrax wrote:
vankman79 wrote:
i have not heard anything about peterson moving to safety other than a few amakumara supporters saying it. he is way to skilled, he has what it takes to be a corner i dont get where people are coming up with that.


This from profootballweekly.com: CORNERBACKS

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU*
6-0e, 220e, 4.40e

Peterson is fully expected to enter the NFL draft following his junior season after starring as both a cornerback and return man. He stands out as the most dominant all-around performer since Charles Woodson exited Michigan as the fourth overall selection of the Raiders in 1998. At 6 feet, 220-plus pounds, he is extremely physical at the line of scrimmage in press-man coverage, has terrific ball skills and is aggressive supporting the run. He is so thick that NFL DB coaches could ask him to drop weight or even move him to free safety.

This is just an example, have read the same on another web site as well. Doesn't mean it will happen.


this is basing him moving to safety oh his weight alone, not because he cant cover. its funny how people use this as a knock on him. this article is talking him up. this writer seems to think he is too big to play corner and that appears to be why he suggests a move to safety. i personally like the size he has. he has the size to be physical with any wr in the league. im pretty sure nobody is gonna question his speed.



You seem to be fixated on this guy. If he's as good as everyone says, he'll be top 5. After the Lions win out, they could be picking 8 to 13.


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The lions shouldn't be in a postition to take Peterson. I believe we need LB more than anything. Two actually. With the Lions drafting somewhere between 5-10 there really isn't a LB we could grab that wouldn't be a reach. I think Amukamara will probably slide down the draft boards by draft time because his numbers isn't really wowing anyone right now. There is plenty of depth at LB to grab one in round 2 so the Lions should take Amukamara if he's there round 1. He's better than what we have now


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thelomasbrowns wrote:
slybri19 wrote:
1 Carolina 2-12 .571
2 Denver 3-11 .518
3 Cincinnati 3-11 .585
4 Arizona 4-10 .460
5 Detroit 4-10 .545
6 Buffalo 4-10 .580
7 San Francisco 5-9 .487
8 Dallas 5-9 .518
9 Washington 5-9 .518
10/11F Houston 5-9 .536
10/11F Minnesota 5-9 .536
12 Cleveland 5-9 .571
13 Seattle 6-8 .482
14 Tennessee 6-8 .513
15 New England (from Oakland) 7-7 .469
16 Miami 7-7 .536
17 San Diego 8-6 .451
18 Jacksonville 8-6 .460
19 Tampa Bay 8-6 .473
20 Green Bay 8-6 .522
*21 St. Louis 6-8 .438
*22 Indianapolis 8-6 .487
*23 Kansas City 9-5 .415
*24 New York Giants 9-5 .455
*25 New Orleans 10-4 .460
*26 Chicago 10-4 .464
*27F Philadelphia/New York Jets 10-4 .487
*28F Philadelphia/Baltimore/Jets 10-4 .487
*29F Philadelphia/Baltimore 10-3 .487
*30 Pittsburgh 10-4 .509
*31 Atlanta 12-2 .478
*32 New England 12-2 .504


It is unbelievable that we're just two spots away from a team still in playoff contention. Please let us move to the NFC West. [-o<


Thats not what jumped out at me......Am I reading that right? Do the lions have the 5th toughest strength of schedule thus far this year???

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