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Now that declaration day for juniors has passed, time to get a much better read on current player ratings. This one from nfldraftscout.com, This is their top fifty, be intersting to see how much it fluctuates between now and d-day.


Top Draft 2011 Prospects -- (Updated 1/15/2011 4:17:21 PM)
OVR Pos. Rank Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. Proj. Rd. Stock 40 Time
1 1 Patrick Peterson CB LSU 6-1 222 1 same 4.42
2 1 Nick Fairley DT Auburn 6-4 298 1 same 4.92
3 1 Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson 6-4 275 1 same 4.64
4 1 A.J. Green WR Georgia 6-4 212 1 same 4.49
5 2 Robert Quinn DE North Carolina 6-5 268 1 same 4.64
6 2 Marcell Dareus DT Alabama 6-3 309 1 same 4.95
7 2 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6-0 205 1 same 4.49
8 1 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri 6-5 235 1 same 4.72
9 1 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6-2 243 1 same 4.56
10 2 Julio Jones WR Alabama 6-4 220 1 same 4.49
11 2 Aldon Smith OLB Missouri 6-4 258 1 same 4.69
12 1 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State 6-5 305 1 same 5.22
13 2 Cam Newton QB Auburn 6-6 250 1 same 4.52
14 1 Mark Ingram RB Alabama 5-10 215 1 same 4.48
15 3 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6-3 286 1 same 4.79
16 2 Mikel LeShoure RB Illinois 6-0 230 1-2 same 4.53
17 2 Tyron Smith OT Southern California 6-5 285 1-2 same 5.08
18 4 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 6-4 263 1-2 same 4.82
19 3 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6-8 315 1-2 same 4.89
20 3 Jake Locker QB Washington 6-3 230 1-2 same 4.53
21 5 Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State 6-5 288 1-2 same 4.92
22 6 J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin 6-6 292 1-2 same 4.87
23 4 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 6-6 238 1-2 same 5.12
24 3 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6-1 312 1-2 same 4.98
25 3 Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA 6-4 255 1-2 same 4.68
26 4 Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College 6-7 308 1-2 same 5.06
27 3 Brandon Harris CB Miami (Fla.) 5-11 195 1-2 same 4.45
28 7 Cameron Jordan DE California 6-4 285 1-2 same 4.85
29 5 Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin 6-7 327 1-2 same 5.12
30 1 Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame 6-6 265 1-2 injury 4.64
31 3 Torrey Smith WR Maryland 6-1 205 1-2 same 4.37
32 4 Aaron Williams CB Texas 6-1 195 1-2 same 4.49
33 5 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6-2 205 1-2 same 4.49
34 1 Martez Wilson ILB Illinois 6-4 250 1-2 same 4.59
35 1 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6-4 310 1-2 same 5.29
36 4 Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh 6-5 230 1-2 same 4.48
37 4 Corey Liuget DT Illinois 6-3 300 1-2 same 5.12
38 8 Jabaal Sheard DE Pittsburgh 6-3 260 2 same 4.76
39 5 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6-1 285 2 same 5.04
40 2 D.J. Williams TE Arkansas 6-2 251 2 same 4.59
41 3 Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech 5-10 205 2 same 4.46
42 1 Quinton Carter FS Oklahoma 6-1 200 2 same 4.57
43 6 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6-4 340 2 same 5.26
44 2 Rodney Hudson OG Florida State 6-2 284 2 same 5.26
45 6 DeMarcus Love OT Arkansas 6-5 315 2 same 5.18
46 1 Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State 6-3 306 2 same 5.16
47 4 Jordan Todman RB Connecticut 5-09 195 2 same 4.43
48 4 Jeremy Beal OLB Oklahoma 6-3 267 2 same 4.79
49 5 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy 5-09 190 2 same 4.34
50 5 Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College 6-4 245 2 same 4.75


January 16th, 2011, 9:58 pm
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I'm gonna throw a name out there of a player, and see if anyone agrees that he should be considered a top 50 prospect.........Pat Devlin.

I think Devlin is an excellent pro prospect, and is a better QB prospect to me than Mallett or Newton. He's polished, has touch, a pretty good arm and shows on field leadership. I know he plays for a small school (Delaware), but guess who else played there as a QB? The name Flacco ring any bells?

I watched him play in their championship game, and I was impressed. I saw one other Delaware game this past season, and Delaware just demolished the team they played (forgot who). Devlin would be a great pickup for Carolina, if they had a second round pick. Buffalo might elect to take him in round two if they take a DL in round one. And I think the kid will win the starting spot, possibly by opening day, but definitely by mid year.

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January 17th, 2011, 6:06 pm
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Honestly, Ive never heard of Devlin. I definetely dont doubt what you said about him though. He sounds like a great player. And ya never know, come combine time and pro day time, we all might hear his name a lot more.

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January 17th, 2011, 6:43 pm
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Heard of Devlin just never seen him play.


January 17th, 2011, 9:50 pm
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I know I'm going to get roasted for it, but given that chart (meaning, assuming that it is an accurate measure of talent level), if the draft went that way I would want us to take Ingram and Pouncey if he were available or Quinton Carter.


January 17th, 2011, 10:13 pm
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what the? i thought you were against 1st rd RBs?


January 18th, 2011, 12:31 am
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The Legend wrote:
what the? i thought you were against 1st rd RBs?


??? Where did you get that from? I wanted us to draft Willis McGahee before he busted his knee, and I would have loved AP over CJ if I wasn't afraid of injury issues. Rb is the position that has the most immediate impact on offense. I would love for the Lions to land a TRUE first round caliber every down back.


January 18th, 2011, 12:48 am
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m2karateman wrote:
I'm gonna throw a name out there of a player, and see if anyone agrees that he should be considered a top 50 prospect.........Pat Devlin.

I think Devlin is an excellent pro prospect, and is a better QB prospect to me than Mallett or Newton. He's polished, has touch, a pretty good arm and shows on field leadership. I know he plays for a small school (Delaware), but guess who else played there as a QB? The name Flacco ring any bells?

I watched him play in their championship game, and I was impressed. I saw one other Delaware game this past season, and Delaware just demolished the team they played (forgot who). Devlin would be a great pickup for Carolina, if they had a second round pick. Buffalo might elect to take him in round two if they take a DL in round one. And I think the kid will win the starting spot, possibly by opening day, but definitely by mid year.



Have noticed him listed on the boards but haven't seen him play. This weekend will be my first chance as he's on the roster for the Shrine game.


January 18th, 2011, 3:04 pm
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wjb21ndtown wrote:
I know I'm going to get roasted for it, but given that chart (meaning, assuming that it is an accurate measure of talent level), if the draft went that way I would want us to take Ingram and Pouncey if he were available or Quinton Carter.



Have seen Ingram listed at 8 or 9 on other board, but the draft is a long way off and I doubt these ratings will stay this way. If the Lions took him, I would be stunned. Sure he's a fine back, but I just don't see the Lions taking a back in the 1st. If they wanted a RB that high, I might prefer Mikel LeShoure, better size.


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liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
I know I'm going to get roasted for it, but given that chart (meaning, assuming that it is an accurate measure of talent level), if the draft went that way I would want us to take Ingram and Pouncey if he were available or Quinton Carter.



Have seen Ingram listed at 8 or 9 on other board, but the draft is a long way off and I doubt these ratings will stay this way. If the Lions took him, I would be stunned. Sure he's a fine back, but I just don't see the Lions taking a back in the 1st. If they wanted a RB that high, I might prefer Mikel LeShoure, better size.


LeShoure may have better size, but I don't think he has better speed or vision. Ingram was a beast in the NCAAs and I think he would make a really good pro RB. I think Ingram can be an every down back, and I think he's exactly what this offense needs, along with an OG and a new C to get this offense clicking.


January 18th, 2011, 3:39 pm
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i know there are a lot of people down on ingram, im not. ingram is a beast and i think he is gonna be 1 of the best rbs in the nfl some day. you go back to the 09 season and watch what he did, he was phenomenal. he didnt have as great a year this year, but he was playing a little dinged up too. if peterson and amakumara are off the board at that point and ingram is sitting there i would take him. he would be my bpa. im not sure there is a lb worthy of picking at that point. but i really hope amakumara slips.

could you imagine what a nightmare it would be if they split calvin and nate out wide, put best in the slot, pettigrew at tight end, and ingram in the backfield. SNAP, ok im back to reality now and my dream is over. I really dont think they would take him, but i wouldnt be disappointed if they did. I can see arron brown and kevin smith on their way outta town. mo mo is nearing the top of the hill and who knows when he will hit the top and start coming down the other side. so they could probably use another rb, i dont know as if it should be a 1st rounder or not. .


January 18th, 2011, 4:23 pm
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Would I like Ingram on the Lions? Of course.

But I just cannot see any other option in the first round other than defense. I also dont understand why there is a discussion based on us taking an offensive player in the first round.

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well the more i think about it, it could make sense that they would take ingram at 13 if peterson and amukamara are gone and he is still there. im thinking that smith and brown are pretty well done here. mo mo may have another good year left in him, but i dont see much more than a year, who knows. so therefore that makes rb a position of need. if the lions think that ingram is that special talent i could easily see them pulling the trigger on him. maybe they could use best in the slot, and in the backfield. i dont think there will be a worthy corner or linebacker there at 13. i would much rather have ingram than a defensive end or a defensive tackle because i believe ingram would be much more valuable. especially if best can play the slot. ingram seems more like a better option than reaching for a cb, lb, or safety at that point. i dont see many offensive lineman that have the talent to be selected that high. so there really aint many options. do you go with the 3rd best defensive end or do you take the best rb in the draft, which happens to be a phenomenal player at his position. I would have to go with ingram


January 18th, 2011, 5:37 pm
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Would I like Ingram on the Lions? Of course.

But I just cannot see any other option in the first round other than defense. I also dont understand why there is a discussion based on us taking an offensive player in the first round.



You build a team with talent. If Ingram is the best player within 3-4 draft slots of our position, you take him! he fits a position of need. To pass on Ingram for a safety, a 2nd tier CB or a 2nd tier LB is just plain silly. I understand that our defense needs starters, and I understand our defense needs at least 3 new starters. But you don't pass on a potentially great player just to fill a hole, esp. when that player fits a team need - and an important one at that.

Ingram frees up Best to do what he's supposed to do - by a hybrid WR/RB tweener that works well in open space, he makes Best more durable, he takes the majority of the workload, improves the running game, and makes the offense work. Right now we suffer because we don't have ANY sort of reliability in our running game. When we absolutely HAVE TO HAVE a first down, even in relatively short yardage, it has to come from a pass - and the defense knows it.

If it shakes out that Ingram isn't the best player when we pick, I'm fine with that. What I'm not fine is passing on him to take a LB that doesn't fit our scheme/system, or a CB/S that's not worthy of his draft position, just so we can be happy that we drafted a player on the defensive side of the ball...


January 18th, 2011, 6:07 pm
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wjb21ndtown wrote:
Would I like Ingram on the Lions? Right now we suffer because we don't have ANY sort of reliability in our running game. When we absolutely HAVE TO HAVE a first down, even in relatively short yardage, it has to come from a pass - and the defense knows it.

I completely agree with the bit quoted above, but I'm not sure that this is a problem that's fixed with a running back, I think it's one that's fixed with improved run blocking from our O-Line.

If I were seeing a lot of short yardage situations where the RB just has to move one guy back a yard but wasn't doing it, and this was where we were coming up short, I could see the need for an improvement. But it's seemed to me more like the RB just not having any kind of hole or one-on-one situation where a battle of strength makes the difference between the +1 yard that gets you a 1st down or the -1 yard that gets you a 4th down.


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