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Wonder if we could potentially draft him. Yes, I know that Caldwell and (now) Mayhew aren't into drafting guys with character risks. At the same time, Austin was in Baltimore when they took Jimmy Smith, who had a similar profile: talented CB but character concerns, and that worked out well. Thoughts?

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April 17th, 2015, 10:20 am
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Welcome to the group. So far, it is just you and me, as far as I know. I posted that we should take the risk on either him or DGB. Both are top 10 talents.


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Found this article today on NFPost.com

I found it relevant because Marcus Peters is included on their list. Looks like he's slow to go along with his bad attitude.



Some Potentially Risky Selections in the 2015 NFL Draft
Posted April 16, 2015 ·


Every year, there are players who have the physical traits to be drafted highly but have some degree of risk attached to them. The risk could be a character thing, a medical issue, or they haven’t played up to their potential. It’s the clubs that draft these players have to weigh the risk versus the reward of making the selection. It could turn out to be a home run or just a bunt. We won’t know the real answer until the player has a few years in the league.

That said, the following are some players that carry a notable degree of risk.

Todd Gurley – RB – Georgia

As we all know, Gurley suffered a severe knee injury last fall. He had surgery to repair an ACL, and when at the Combine, he wouldn’t let team doctors examine his knee. He did have an MRI, and according to two different sources, he also had at least one other MRI on another part of his body.

Tomorrow, he will return to Indianapolis for the medical rechecks. How his knee checks out will go a long way towards where he is drafted. Don’t look for any team to leak the results of the exam.

Even when healthy, running backs have relatively short careers, so if the exam shows potential problems going forward, Gurley could drop on draft day. Things the doctors will be looking for are the strength and stability of the knee joint as well as checking if any arthritis has taken place. Arthritic conditions cannot be cured, only the pain can be monitored. When any player has an arthritic condition, it only gets worse over time and can shorten a player’s career.

P.J. Williams – DC – Florida St

Williams was recently charged with a DUI. To let that happen so close to the draft is not very smart on Williams’ part. Clubs will now look more closely at Williams’s off field activities to see if this was a one-time situation or if he has a potential problem. The last thing a club wants is to lose a high draft choice to suspension because of an alcohol abuse problem.

Randy Gregory – OLB/DE – Nebraska

Gregory came out and publicly admitted that he tested positive for marijuana at the Combine. That alone puts up a red flag. Every player that goes to the Combine knows that he will be drug tested. If a person tests positive he is either stupid or has a problem.

That said, sources have also told me that Gregory has been less than impressive in interviews and some question his focus and overall mindset.

Gregory is a talented edge pass rusher and if he hadn’t tested positive, he would have definitely been a top 10 selection. Now I would just be guessing as to what area of the first round he gets selected. While I am sure he will still be a first round pick, the team that selects him has to be a bit nervous as Gregory begins his NFL career.

Marcus Peters – DC – Washington

Without question, Peters is one of the more talented corners in this draft. That said, there are two concerns about him going into the draft.

The first is the question of whether he is coachable. He got kicked off the Washington team for arguing with coaches. If NFL people feel he is going to be a problem, his stock will drop. You can bet that many teams did an inordinate amount of research on Peters by checking with the current staff at Washington and the previous staff. They want all questions about character and coachability answered before they pull the trigger on drafting Peters.

The other question about Peters is speed. At Indy he ran 4.53 and 4.57. That is hardly elite speed for a stop watch driven position. Usually when a player runs poorly at the Combine, they will run again at their pro day. Peters declined to run the 40 again, which tells us he knows he can’t run any faster than he did at the Combine. To draft a player with 4.55 speed at the corner position in the first round, a club has to be very sure of his coverage ability.

Jameis Winston – QB – Florida St.

I have already written plenty about Winston over the past few months. Winston obviously has the talent to become a very good NFL quarterback. What could hold him back is the off field issues. I understand that people say it’s a case of immaturity. I don’t buy that. My experience tells me that very few people change. If he had off field issues in college, they will continue in the NFL. I’m sure that the team that drafts him (most likely Tampa Bay) hopes that he has grown and everything is behind him. If that is the case he can become an excellent selection.

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April 17th, 2015, 8:04 pm
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His forty time doesn't make him slow. Its been seen on film and said many times that his back pedal is incredibly fast and he's shown elite closing speed. A 4.5 is hardly "slow" for a big bodied corner and is more than adequate to stick with the big WRs commonly found on the outside. I really doubt there are any teams actually worried about his ability to match up in the NFL. His attitude is the only problem and I would say it's probably better to just pass on him in the first. There should be other prospects at different positions that have the same potential and are less risky, but once your in the second I think any team would be stupid to pass on him at that point.


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His forty time doesn't make him slow. Its been seen on film and said many times that his back pedal is incredibly fast and he's shown elite closing speed. A 4.5 is hardly "slow" for a big bodied corner and is more than adequate to stick with the big WRs commonly found on the outside. I really doubt there are any teams actually worried about his ability to match up in the NFL. His attitude is the only problem and I would say it's probably better to just pass on him in the first. There should be other prospects at different positions that have the same potential and are less risky, but once your in the second I think any team would be stupid to pass on him at that point.


Exactly about your last sentence. Which is why we should take him at 23. He won't make out of the top of the 2nd round let alone slide all the way to us in the 2nd. He is IMHO, the best CB this year as far as talent goes. At 23, it is looking like as many as 6 OL, 4 WR, 4DT, and 2RB could already be gone. There will also be 2CB's gone. And I think Peters is better than either of the 2CB's taken before him. Everyone on here was afraid of the honey badger. He has been just fine so far. It is time we take the risk on a guy. I think Peters is worth it.


April 17th, 2015, 11:32 pm
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Yeah, the Lions have a great track record of selecting risky picks. :oops:

Some franchises seem to do OK taking players with questionable track records, typically they have a strong front office, coaching staff, and support system - but lets face it, the Lions are not one of those franchises.

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