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You want to put a guy who's 6'8" at guard?


Actually I'd rather see him at power forward, but this wasn't the NBA draft. That said, a tall guard with a mean streak isn't unheard of, even one that's 6' 8". It's not like he's going to stand up straight right after the snap, after all.


True, but with how long his arms are he'll have a tough time extending his arms into a 300 lb. DT coming into his body. With arms that long, he's far better off protecting the edge.


We apparently gave the guy a huge signing bonus, about double what we gave Fauria/Waddle last year, so they must have some idea for him.


Yeah they gave him something like a 4th of the UDFA budget, so they must actually see a good chance he will make the roster as the 4th OT.


Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


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BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
thelomasbrowns wrote:
m2karateman wrote:
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You want to put a guy who's 6'8" at guard?


Actually I'd rather see him at power forward, but this wasn't the NBA draft. That said, a tall guard with a mean streak isn't unheard of, even one that's 6' 8". It's not like he's going to stand up straight right after the snap, after all.


True, but with how long his arms are he'll have a tough time extending his arms into a 300 lb. DT coming into his body. With arms that long, he's far better off protecting the edge.


We apparently gave the guy a huge signing bonus, about double what we gave Fauria/Waddle last year, so they must have some idea for him.


Yeah they gave him something like a 4th of the UDFA budget, so they must actually see a good chance he will make the roster as the 4th OT.


Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


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I have no idea how consistent this kid plays, but he looks like he can lay the lumber. I liked what I had read about him when I saw his signing and I hope he can acclimate himself to the NFL talent level.


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Thanks for that Wags, impressive. How does this kid go undrafted?


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Thanks for that Wags, impressive. How does this kid go undrafted?


He's from a small school, playing against almost no one that will make the NFL in a year where the draft was especially huge. thats how he ended up undrafted.

I do like the leg driving this kid does when he tackles. it doesnt apear that he is looking for huge hits, he just keeps driving with his legs and that makes the hits a little bigger. I want to see him more in coverage, but in the highlights it looks like he has good timing on getting to the reciever as he is making the catch to disrupt it. fingers crossed on this kid, I like what Wags has shown us!

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What I like about Couplin:

Most of the time his tackles were good form tackles; head up, arms wrapped, hitting into the center of the persons chest. He shows good awareness on those plays in the highlights, and he made good adjustments when the ball was in the air.


What I didn't like about Couplin:

He was late to the ball many times, and relied on the big hit to dislodge it. Won't work as well in the NFL. Also, there were times when his big hits were very reminiscent of Louis Delmas....throw a shoulder into the person, without form tackling. Again, won't always work in the NFL, and got Delmas in trouble MANY times while he was with the Lions.

I just wonder what there is to see on full game tapes, not just his highlight tapes.

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Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


Sims is having health issues, and will be in the last year of his contract. It is VERY possible the Lions cut Sims if Swanson, Austin or someone else proves themselves better in camp. While Sims wasn't terrible last year, it was easy to see a decline in his performances as the season went on. Personally, I hope he recovers and plays at the same level as 2012. He was very good that year for us.

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Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


Sims is having health issues, and will be in the last year of his contract. It is VERY possible the Lions cut Sims if Swanson, Austin or someone else proves themselves better in camp. While Sims wasn't terrible last year, it was easy to see a decline in his performances as the season went on. Personally, I hope he recovers and plays at the same level as 2012. He was very good that year for us.


My whole point in the post was just that Lucas was not brought in by the Lions as a starting option like Billy was hinting at and it would take a quite few things to go just right(or wrong depending how you look at it) for Lucas to be starting this season.


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rao wrote:
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rao wrote:
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Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


Sims is having health issues, and will be in the last year of his contract. It is VERY possible the Lions cut Sims if Swanson, Austin or someone else proves themselves better in camp. While Sims wasn't terrible last year, it was easy to see a decline in his performances as the season went on. Personally, I hope he recovers and plays at the same level as 2012. He was very good that year for us.


My whole point in the post was just that Lucas was not brought in by the Lions as a starting option like Billy was hinting at and it would take a quite few things to go just right(or wrong depending how you look at it) for Lucas to be starting this season.


I didn't say a damn thing about Lucas. I didn't even mention his name.


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BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
m2karateman wrote:
rao wrote:
BillySims wrote:

Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


Sims is having health issues, and will be in the last year of his contract. It is VERY possible the Lions cut Sims if Swanson, Austin or someone else proves themselves better in camp. While Sims wasn't terrible last year, it was easy to see a decline in his performances as the season went on. Personally, I hope he recovers and plays at the same level as 2012. He was very good that year for us.


My whole point in the post was just that Lucas was not brought in by the Lions as a starting option like Billy was hinting at and it would take a quite few things to go just right(or wrong depending how you look at it) for Lucas to be starting this season.


I didn't say a damn thing about Lucas. I didn't even mention his name.


Billy you quoted multiple posts about Lucas and made references to moves that would leave the RT spot open. If your post had nothing to do with Lucas maybe don't quote the string of posts concerning him. It's a pretty easy mistake to be made with how it was posted.


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A little more on Couplin:
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Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson, aka “Megatron” and Seattle Seahawks corner Richard Sherman, the self-proclaimed “Optimus Prime” have taken the National Football League by storm. With the NFL Draft approaching, a young prospect has been given an alias that showcases his superhuman athleticism. Jerome Couplin III, a former safety from the College of William & Mary has been dubbed the “Osprey” for his wingspan and his liftoff capabilities. Like the large bird of prey and the vertical takeoff military aircraft which he is named after, Couplin shares a number of their impressive attributes.

Physically, Couplin is a freak of nature. Standing at 6’2 and 215 lbs. he is in the mold of new big and quick defensive backs such as Seattle Seahawk Kam Chancellor. At his Pro Day on March 18, Couplin ran the 40 yard dash in 4.5 seconds. He also had a vertical of 41.5 inches and a standing broad jump of 11 feet 2 inches, all accomplished outside in rainy, 32 degree conditions. But it’s when the ball is in the air that Couplin earns his nickname. Much like the “Osprey,” Couplin has an 81 inch wingspan, which means that he can practically touch his knees when standing straight up. Coupled with his jumping ability, Couplin’s physical attributes are a defensive coordinator’s dream. To put it into perspective, Couplin can catch a football 13 feet in the air (the top of a basketball backboard), or dive for a football a car length away. His Pro day results in the 40 yard dash, three cone drill, and bench press numbers tied or beat the projected top two safeties in this year’s draft (Alabama’s Ha‘Sean “Ha-Ha” Clinton Dix and Louisville’s Calvin Pryor ). Couplin’s results in the standing broad jump are the best for a safety in the last 10 years at the combine and his vertical would have been first among safeties at this year’s combine.
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Couplin racked up 113 tackles last season (his 5.8 solo tackles per game ranked 11th nationally and first in the Colonial Athletic Association League), and received first team All- American honors from The Associated Press, The Sports Network and the Walter Camp Football Foundation. He was also named as a finalist for the esteemed Buck Buchanan Award (given to the top defensive player in the nation). Despite this he was not invited to the NFL Scouting Combine. That’s just fine with Couplin, as not much seems to faze him. He says “the doubters have always motivated me and I just love to prove people wrong.”

Despite his superhuman attributes, the teasing started in high school and got progressively worse in college. “People really started noticing that I was this guy who was pretty tall, but then I had these extremely long arms,” Couplin mused. He never took the jokes or insults to heart; it was nothing to be self-conscious about. Couplin attributes that to the fact that he had a strong family support system. Even though his parents, Jerome Couplin II & Adrienne Montague, never married or lived together he says, “It made me feel blessed to know that that no matter what, they were willing to put their differences aside and do what was best for me.” His grandparents, Floyd and Denise Montague, have also played an integral role in his upbringing and have stressed the value of obtaining a good education and giving back to community. That philosophy played a vital part in Jerome’s decision to select a top academic institution in William & Mary at the same time taking on the full time job of playing college football. “I knew that it was going to be challenging, but that’s what you want… something that is going to push you.” Couplin’s hard work translates off the field and outside the classroom as well, as he has participated in numerous fundraisers for charity, feed the homeless programs and events for at risk youth.

Scouts from the Pittsburgh Steelers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Redskins were all in attendance for his Pro Day and have had communication with him as well. As a result of his measurables, Couplin is now on the radar of other of NFL teams. The Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals have shown interest and he has had workouts with the Kansas City Chiefs, Detroit Lions, Indianapolis Colts, and Baltimore Ravens.

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Boy, the more I read about this guy the harder it is to not drink the coolaid! Fingers crossed that he can convert that small school game into the pros. He could be very exciting to watch once he gets the speed of the game down.

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rao wrote:
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rao wrote:
m2karateman wrote:
rao wrote:
BillySims wrote:

Is it possible that the Lions are going to cut Sims soon to save some cap space? We are only $1M under the cap according to Pat Kirwan.. I don't know if he figured in all cuts in the above post.

Anyway, we could possibly cut Sims, move Warford to LG, and move Waddle or Hilliard inside to RG.


I don't see how they could feel very comfortable with that. Sims wasn't amazing at LG but he was more than adequate and Warford doesn't really fit the profile of a LG. If they thought Lucas was a day 1 starter they would have drafted him not waited to sign him as an UDFA where he would get to choose where to go. If they were to let go of Sims, which I don't see happening, it would be because they are confident that Swanson can start in his place.


Sims is having health issues, and will be in the last year of his contract. It is VERY possible the Lions cut Sims if Swanson, Austin or someone else proves themselves better in camp. While Sims wasn't terrible last year, it was easy to see a decline in his performances as the season went on. Personally, I hope he recovers and plays at the same level as 2012. He was very good that year for us.


My whole point in the post was just that Lucas was not brought in by the Lions as a starting option like Billy was hinting at and it would take a quite few things to go just right(or wrong depending how you look at it) for Lucas to be starting this season.


I didn't say a damn thing about Lucas. I didn't even mention his name.


Billy you quoted multiple posts about Lucas and made references to moves that would leave the RT spot open. If your post had nothing to do with Lucas maybe don't quote the string of posts concerning him. It's a pretty easy mistake to be made with how it was posted.


I quoted previous posts because the thread moved in two directions. So, I quoted the string I wanted to comment on. I never even hinted at talking about Lucas. There were others that quoted the same string that actually did mention Lucas. Yet you chose to credit/discredit me for it.

Edited to add: I would also suggest you re-read what I said so you can see that it would not have left. RT open.


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Boy, the more I read about this guy the harder it is to not drink the coolaid! Fingers crossed that he can convert that small school game into the pros. He could be very exciting to watch once he gets the speed of the game down.
Agreed.


And yet, some more on him:
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The Detroit Lions announced their undrafted free agents on Monday afternoon -- 11 of them -- and over the next few days, you'll get brief primers on them here as the team prepares for rookie minicamp this weekend.

Other profiles: OT Cornelius Lucas; QB James Franklin; FB Chad Abram; OL Alex Bullard

Name: Jerome Couplin

Position: Safety

School: William & Mary

ESPN pre-draft position rank: No. 151 safety

Career College Stats: 257 career tackles, 21 passes defended, five forced fumbles, five interceptions, one fumble recovery.

Depth chart he’s looking at: Starters -- Glover Quin, James Ihedigbo. Depth -- Isa Abdul-Quddus, Don Carey, DeJon Gomes.

Chances of making it to camp: 90 percent. Detroit clearly targeted him as someone it was interested in. The Lions brought him in on a pre-draft visit. His frame -- 6-foot-2, 215 pounds -- and defensive ability made him an intriguing flier.

Why him: Physically, he is impressive and people have noticed. Forbes wrote about him and his fairly awesome nickname, the “Osprey” because of his height, weight and jumping ability -- Forbes had his pro day numbers at 4.5 seconds in the 40-yard dash, a vertical jump of 41.5 inches and a broad jump of 11 feet, 2 inches. That alone is worth taking a chance on, especially from a franchise that has looked at Norwegian kicking sensation Havard “Kickalicious” Rugland and United States rugby player Carlin Isles in the past 12 months.

Unlike Kickalicious and The Fastest Man in Rugby, Couplin has real experience beyond raw talent and an actual chance to make a roster or the practice squad. What he has, those physical gifts, are not things that can be taught, but can be honed, and he is an intriguing option because of all of this. He was considered one of the top defensive players in the FCS, was first-team All-CAA and a first-team FCS All-American. He was also a finalist for the FCS defensive player of the year award. In other words, he might be overlooked, but he can play.

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