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What position should the Lions' draft 1st round of the 2006 NFL Draft?
Poll ended at September 10th, 2005, 3:18 pm
OT 50%  50%  [ 4 ]
MLB 50%  50%  [ 4 ]
Defensive lineman 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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conversion02 wrote:
Well if DeMulling plays like he is, we may be looking at OG too.

OT, DE, MLB, and TE are all draft needs next year. We should have taken a TE in this draft instead of Swancutt and Goddard in the 6th.


why? Jason Randall was probably the best available TE during the 6th round and we picked him up as an undrafted rookie free agent anyways. I don't see any problems at the TE position.


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adpreston1385 wrote:

why? Jason Randall was probably the best available TE during the 6th round and we picked him up as an undrafted rookie free agent anyways. I don't see any problems at the TE position.


I beg to differ. Joel Dreesen was available when the Lions picked in the sixth round and is a better athlete than Randall. Also, Dreesen can long snap, which would have allowed the Lions to open up a roster spot, since Muhlbach would not have been necessary to keep.

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06 picks
#1 OT
#2 QB
#3 MLB or S
day2 - OL depth, starter potential players
FA- passrush OLB, passrush DE, QB, #2 RB, S, MLB


September 7th, 2005, 10:12 am
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The Legend wrote:
06 picks
#1 OT
#2 QB
#3 MLB or S
day2 - OL depth, starter potential players
FA- passrush OLB, passrush DE, QB, #2 RB, S, MLB


Questions: Why a pass rushing OLB? Bailey and Lewis are effective as pass rushers, but Jauron doesn't know how to use them in that capacity. We MAY need a backup running back, but only if the Lions are unable to re-sign Pinner. I like him as a backup. I feel the Lions will try to keep Bryson as well, though they may not be able to.

With the expected glut of quality OT's available in the upcoming draft, I don't know that the Lions will need to use their first round pick on one. I also wonder, why a second round pick on a quarterback? Is that with the intention of Harrington getting released, or do you truly feel Orlovsky can be counted on as a backup next year and our second pick can be used on a player to develop as the replacement for Harrington in 2007?

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Questions: Why a pass rushing OLB? Bailey and Lewis are effective as pass rushers, but Jauron doesn't know how to use them in that capacity. We MAY need a backup running back, but only if the Lions are unable to re-sign Pinner. I like him as a backup. I feel the Lions will try to keep Bryson as well, though they may not be able to.

With the expected glut of quality OT's available in the upcoming draft, I don't know that the Lions will need to use their first round pick on one. I also wonder, why a second round pick on a quarterback? Is that with the intention of Harrington getting released, or do you truly feel Orlovsky can be counted on as a backup next year and our second pick can be used on a player to develop as the replacement for Harrington in 2007?


Looking back, the draft line I put up doesnt do much to help team immediately but here is what I was thinking. I am referring to a hybrid type OLB/DE. This is not a knock on Bailey or Lewis. This player could line up as an end or LB. This would be our big FA signing. Not sure who is available, I thought Merriman or Ware could have been this type of player. #2 RB. I dislike Bryson as a ball carrier although adept blocking, good hands, seems to do whatever they ask, IMO he doesnt gain enough 1st downs for us. It might not be completely his fault bc the passes dont hit him in stride but he cant make a guy miss when we need him to. I like Pinner but feel his style changes our offense too much for it to run smoothly if KJ were to go down or to give Pinner 5-8 carries/game as a breather for KJ. Again, have no clue what FA RBs will be available but a player with a little more explosiveness is what I would go for similar to what teams have gotten in RD 4 or later recently like Lee Suggs, Marion Barber, Domanick Davis, Onterrio Smith, Chester Taylor.

As for OT, I like a lot of the guys coming in. You are right Backus will likely be retained and its always a good idea to keep guys like that in your system. If not OT in rd1, I go for the DE/OLB guy or a stud DB who do help immediately and look for a MLB in rd3, O-line depth early day 2. This depends largely on how Butler does this year and what Backus' price ends up being. QB- Probably will have an open spot. Harrington will prob remain but I would strongly consider restructuring his contract so that he is not overpaid. I believe Harrington will not be a top 10 QB. He lacks star physical skills (arm strength, accuracy) or mental skills (pocket patience, consistency). I think his max out on potential will be a notch below guys like DelHomme, Hasselbeck and Pennington. Orlovsky seems to be the same kind of QB as Joey, similar tools and style. The QB I would draft would be a different type of player with more arm and mobility, maybe a guy similar to JP Losman or Drew Brees, a higher ceiling player. And to answer your question I do think that Orlovsky will be capable enough to be our #2 next season, I just dont see him as a guy that you would groom to be a #1.


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Also, Dreesen can long snap, which would have allowed the Lions to open up a roster spot, since Muhlbach would not have been necessary to keep


NFL teams almost NEVER let their 1st string long-snapper play a regular position b/c of the risk of injury. Dreesed could have an "insurance policy" in the event that Muhlbach got hurt..........but they wouldn't have cut Muhlbach + asked Dreesen to play TE.



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As for OT, I like a lot of the guys coming in. You are right Backus will likely be retained and its always a good idea to keep guys like that in your system


I've seen many posts saying that Backus is average and not to give up on him yet. I don't agree at all.

Backus is now in his 5th year in the NFL and has 69 career starts.
..........He has never been a good run blocker.
..........And he has been awful in pass protection for a couple of seasons now, not just this preseason.


OLT is too important of a position to settle for a below average player to start........especially when you are talking about giving him a NEW CONTRACT for next year.

There will be 3 or 4 OLTs in the 2006 draft that could be worth looking at........as well as other options in Free Agency who could be upgrades over Backus at a very important position.


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While I agree that the Lions should draft an offensive tackle, I don't know that it should be in the first round. If the Lions can land a free agent left tackle that will be an upgrade over Backus, then they can wait until round two or three to make their tackle pick. This years tackle class is good and deep. No need to take one in the first round if talent is available at another position with a more shallow pool. The Lions also need to look at middle linebacker and free safety. Holt doesn't have enough speed, and Holmes is in his last year and likely won't be resigned. A.J Hawk or Chad Greenway would do wonders for this defense in the middle. Likewise, LaRon Landry or Michael Huff would be a big upgrade over Holt. We may also need a defensive end. Redding, Devries and Edwards are in their contract years. Redding and Edwards will be restricted and will most likely remain. Devries will be a tough one to keep. Even with Swancutt, the Lions could use another defensive end that is a pass rush specialist and has good edge speed.

Of course, there is also the possibility that the Lions will need to draft another QB. Should Garcia leave and they not sign a free agent, the Lions will be forced to get another QB.

This coming draft is going to be thin, as far as the Lions go. They gave up their fourth rounder to get Orlovsky and Goddard (cut). They gave up a seventh rounder for Kosier (RFA). And I believe they gave up a conditional pick for safety Jon McGraw. I'm not sure if that pick will be for the 2006 or 2007 draft. If it is in 2006, it will likely be a sixth rounder.

Back to offense. If the Lions sign a free agent tackle, and also keep Backus (both of these happening is unlikely) the Lions may not draft a tackle. The Lions also have to think about cornerback. Goodman is on a one year deal. So is McQuarters. Bryant is always hurt and is pretty ineffective when he's healthy. The Lions MUST consider getting a good young CB (neither Smith nor Wilson are starting material, IMO).

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1. OT
2. OG
3. C
4. OG
5. OT

or...

1. wr
2. wr
3. wr
4. wr
5. wr

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theAlphaMale wrote:
1. OT
2. OG
3. C
4. OG
5. OT

or...

1. wr
2. wr
3. wr
4. wr
5. wr


Alpha, you should be in a Bud Light commercial for

"Real Men of Genius"

Mister Draft Your Entire Offense This Year

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I read that if McGraw didn't play, we don't give up any picks. If he plays a lot, we give up a 6th. If he plays a little, we give up a 7th. He's playing ST, so I suppose we'll give up a 7th for him.

We're out a 7th, 4th and 6th aren't we?

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I read that if McGraw didn't play, we don't give up any picks. If he plays a lot, we give up a 6th. If he plays a little, we give up a 7th. He's playing ST, so I suppose we'll give up a 7th for him.

We're out a 7th, 4th and 6th aren't we?


It certainly seems like that is going to be the case. That is pretty pathetic. And we really don't have anything to show for it.

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Actually I made a mistake in my original post. We gave up a seventh rounder in 2005 for Kyle Kosier, not in 2006. Our conditional pick for McGraw is a 2006 pick. So we will either give up a 6th or 7th rounder for him. We are definitely out the 4th rounder in 2006 because of the trade with the Pats for the 5th and 6th rounder we got in 2005 that netted us Orlovsky and Goddard.

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We are definitely out the 4th rounder in 2006 because of the trade with the Pats for the 5th and 6th rounder we got in 2005 that netted us Orlovsky and Goddard.


...oh how I wish we would have taken an OG in the 6th round instead of Goddard.

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m2karateman wrote:
We are definitely out the 4th rounder in 2006 because of the trade with the Pats for the 5th and 6th rounder we got in 2005 that netted us Orlovsky and Goddard.


...oh how I wish we would have taken an OG in the 6th round instead of Goddard.


I prefer we would have taken James Butler, who was an undrafted rookie free agent that signed with the Giants and made the active roster. He is a safety that can play either spot and is starring on special teams for them. WE COULD HAVE BEEN RID OF BRACY WALKER!!!

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i liked butler too, i drafted him for the ravens in our mock draft in round 3...i guess that was high but he is playing more than stanley wilson...


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