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Yorick
ST Coordinator – Danny Crossman
Joined: March 22nd, 2005, 8:42 pm
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 Where we draft Not being able to beat GB proves that we cannot win again this year. Now, the focus shifts to next year, and among other subjects of interst-the draft.
Some years 4 wins gets you in the top 5. Heck we picked #10 with 6 wins last year. This year there is lots of competition. Thanks to our hot start we have been statisically eliminated from picking #1 over all. Houston with one victory seems to have that locked up. SF has two wins and I doubt we can catch them either. NO and GB have three wins, but both those teams could conceivably win and depending on complicated tie breakers we might leap ahead of them for #3. CLE, TEN, and ARI share our wimpy win total but might pull one out with two games remaining.
So it looks like we will pick no earlier than #3 and no later than #8. The odds are that we will pick closer to #8 than #3.
For easy reference here is Mel's bigboard: http://espn.go.com/melkiper/
Being as needy as we are we should have no problem picking the BPA. Thankfully no WRs project into the top 10 so far.
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badnewsbenny
Stadium Announcer
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 9:38 am
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"Ahem. With the 7th pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select...
The entire Wisconsin Badgers Offensive Line".
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| December 12th, 2005, 1:56 pm |
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sweetd20
Fired Head Coach (0-16 record)
Joined: October 13th, 2005, 9:03 am
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If the Lions don't trade down this year for what ever is the best offer then they will once again make the wrong decision in my opinion.
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| December 12th, 2005, 1:57 pm |
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RussMan
Pro Bowl Player
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I think the Lions could beat the Saints. I dont see them beating either the Bengals or the Steelers. So I see them losing at least 2 of the final 3.
I like the idea of getting help in the trenches or at LB.
Hawk and Ferguson would be nice if not it looks like another year for trading down!?
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| December 12th, 2005, 2:06 pm |
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conversion02
RIP Killer
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I would like to see us trade our pick to Denver for their 2 first rounders...it'd never happen, but I can dream can't I?
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| December 12th, 2005, 4:36 pm |
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DeadHeadLion
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How do they do the tie breakers if multiple teams have the same record?
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| December 12th, 2005, 4:49 pm |
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conversion02
RIP Killer
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http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
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Pablo
RIP Killer
Joined: August 6th, 2004, 9:21 am
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DeadHeadLion wrote: How do they do the tie breakers if multiple teams have the same record? Actually it is based on strength of schedule (the lower the SOS the higher you draft) and is being tracked here:
http://www.lionbacker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3602
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| December 12th, 2005, 6:16 pm |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm
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conversion02 wrote: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games. This is for determining division winners. What Pablo posted is true, it is done by strength of schedule. If they are still tied, it goes to a coin flip.
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| December 13th, 2005, 5:27 pm |
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m2karateman
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I agree with sweetd20. Millen should start lining up trade partners at the combines and the pro days. None of this running up to the podium after less than two minutes to make the pick. Denver won't trade their two first rounders, so that's not even worth considering. If the Lions are able to choose around five or six, I guarantee that they will have some trade suitors.
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| December 13th, 2005, 5:30 pm |
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wjb21ndtown
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
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m2karateman wrote: I agree with sweetd20. Millen should start lining up trade partners at the combines and the pro days. None of this running up to the podium after less than two minutes to make the pick. Denver won't trade their two first rounders, so that's not even worth considering. If the Lions are able to choose around five or six, I guarantee that they will have some trade suitors. If we can get Mairo Williams (assuming he comes out)... you run up to the podium. He is hands down the best DE (IMO) coming out this year.. The guy is huge and has good athleticism, and IMO would make a HUGE impact on our D. Williams is, IMO, the next Peppers/Kearske... Like Reggie Bush... you just don't pass on a player like that IMO.
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lionmaster420
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two words... VINCE YOUNG
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bigscottyz
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Re: Where we draft Yorick wrote: Not being able to beat GB proves that we cannot win again this year. Now, the focus shifts to next year, and among other subjects of interst-the draft. Some years 4 wins gets you in the top 5. Heck we picked #10 with 6 wins last year. This year there is lots of competition. Thanks to our hot start we have been statisically eliminated from picking #1 over all. Houston with one victory seems to have that locked up. SF has two wins and I doubt we can catch them either. NO and GB have three wins, but both those teams could conceivably win and depending on complicated tie breakers we might leap ahead of them for #3. CLE, TEN, and ARI share our wimpy win total but might pull one out with two games remaining. So it looks like we will pick no earlier than #3 and no later than #8. The odds are that we will pick closer to #8 than #3. For easy reference here is Mel's bigboard: http://espn.go.com/melkiper/Being as needy as we are we should have no problem picking the BPA. Thankfully no WRs project into the top 10 so far. LION's are NOT eliminated from the top overall pick!!!!
although the odds would be probably 5000 to 1 since we would need 3 HOU wins and many other things to go our way.
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Yorick
ST Coordinator – Danny Crossman
Joined: March 22nd, 2005, 8:42 pm
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Sorry, earlier I thought there were only two games left. Wishful thinking I guess. We are still statistically in the running for the #1 but that is very unlikely. If we lose to the saints, however, we will be drafting in the top 5. Pretty sad.
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| December 22nd, 2005, 12:37 am |
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bigscottyz
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Yorick wrote: Sorry, earlier I thought there were only two games left. Wishful thinking I guess. We are still statistically in the running for the #1 but that is very unlikely. If we lose to the saints, however, we will be drafting in the top 5. Pretty sad. we are out on #1 now, see the new post i made for week 16
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