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Jan. 4 Vince Young hasn't studied the 2006 NFL draft nearly as much as he has the Southern California defense that he will face in the Rose Bowl on Wednesday evening, in a game that will determine the national champion.

But the University of Texas quarterback and some of the people advising him about his football future have perused the composition of the top 10 teams in the draft. And the makeup of the top 10, especially the franchises with the first five choices in April, might be enough to convince Young to return to the Longhorns for his senior season in 2006.



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The Heisman Trophy runner-up, Young has indicated this week that he plans to return to school to complete his eligibility, and sources close to the Texas quarterback confirmed to ESPN.com that he is clearly leaning that way. One reason he would return to Austin, those sources said, is the sense that, despite his enormous potential, Young might not be selected among the top five picks in the NFL lottery.

Many of the teams in the top 10 of the draft order have invested heavily on quarterbacks in recent years, and they might not be ready yet to give up on those picks, or inclined to use another high choice on the position. Of the teams in the top five, just one, the New Orleans Saints, who own the second overall pick, have a dire need at quarterback.

The New York Jets, with the No. 4 pick, are uncertain about the physical status of starter Chad Pennington, a first-round pick in 2000 who has undergone two shoulder surgeries in less than a year. But the Jets have a considerable financial investment in Pennington and will likely sign a veteran free agent as a contingency plan.

Three weeks ago, ESPN.com reported that Young and his family, working within the NCAA guidelines, were determining the process by which the Longhorns standout would meet with potential agents and evaluate suitors seeking to represent him. Key players in the process were Houston attorney Major Adams and Young's former high school coach, Ray Seals. But the process has not moved forward very much in recent weeks, primarily because it appears Young will eschew the 2006 draft.

Young has not completely decided against going into the '06 draft, and could revisit the notion, sources said. Notable is that Texas coach Mack Brown has demonstrated a rare ability to keep underclass prospects from bolting early to the professional ranks. Underclass players have until Jan. 15 to petition NFL officials for inclusion in the 2006 draft.

No matter how Young performs in the Rose Bowl, he and the people counseling him feel he probably won't move ahead of Matt Leinart, his counterpart from Southern Cal in the game, in the eyes of NFL scouts. League talent evaluators privately harbor some doubts about Leinart, especially over his arm strength, but he is still viewed at this early stage of the draft analysis process as the top senior quarterback prospect.

For all his athleticism and play-making skills, there are scouts who acknowledge that Young has some areas of his game, like his release point, that need work and that he would benefit from another college season. There are, however, no guarantees Young will be the top quarterback prospect in the 2007 draft, either, given the presence of Notre Dame star Brady Quinn.

Young, 22, has completed 414 of 678 passes in his college career, for 5,773 yards, with 44 touchdown passes and 28 interceptions. He has also run for 2,927 yards and 34 scores on 438 carries.

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January 4th, 2006, 2:30 pm
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I would love to have VY come back to Austin next year.

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January 4th, 2006, 5:24 pm
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I would love to have VY come back to Austin next year.


I'd love to have him declare for the draft... not only may he be gone before we pick (thus having someone else fall to us as an option), I think he'd be a good pick if we do decide to get rid of Harrington this season or even next. Harrington, Young, and Orlovsky, or Kitna, Young, and Orlovsky, or even Young, Orlovsky, and a FA vet IMO would all be better scenarios than we have now.

I know I have said elsewhere that three young Qb's is a disaster, but I predicate that philosophy on the grounds of it being ok as long as one will be your sure future starter. IMO we would have that in Vince Young. That said I would rather land someone like Kiwi, Mario, Ferguson, POSSIBLY Jimmy Williams, (I was impressed with him at his bowl game until the jackazz got ejected), or a trade down, but I would be happy with VY if those players are gone and there aren't any decent trade offers for our pick.


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HE'S STUPID TO GO BACK!!! The guy won the game himself for the most part - he should go first overall.

Anyone hear Leinart's comments? What an a-hole! "our team's better, but they just made the plays today" WTF?

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HE'S STUPID TO GO BACK!!! The guy won the game himself for the most part - he should go first overall.

Anyone hear Leinart's comments? What an a-hole! "our team's better, but they just made the plays today" WTF?


It was speculated a while ago that if the Texan's won the Rose Bowl that VY would come out. IMO this greatly helps the Lions for the reason I earlier mentioned. That said... DECLARE VINCE.... he may not have leaped over Leinhart and Bush today, but he certainly has to be given consideration to have done so... IMO you have to at least consider VY for the #1 over all pick. He picked apart a very good USC D today... His OL is good and his WR's are good, but IMO VY creates a lot of that by buying time and making plays with his legs.


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When you have announcers and HOF players saying that you're the best QB they've seen in a Rose Bowl...you're pretty damn special. Vince needs to declare, but we'd have to sell the farm to get him. NO and NYJ will possibly be looking for QBs. You just don't pass over a guy like VY unless you're SF who just drafted a QB #1. Zona could be looking to sell to get him as well. The Lions are kind of screwed in trying to get VY IMO.

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As much as I was impressed with Young tonight, he has a TON still to work on.

USC would have won that game if their defensive coordinator would have realized that whenever he scrambled, he went to the right. Fouts finally caught on, in the 4th quarter.

All his jukes went to the right, he always carried the ball on the right, he always ran to the right. Unless it was a designed option to the left.

Then there's that whole throwing thing... i'm not getting started on that for now.


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um..I am pretty sure he ran to left a few times and grabbed 50 yards on one run to the left.

But besides that...his throws bugged the hell out of me and it seemed his receivers were often stopping and kneeling to make catches...

He also didn't look blazing fast...more slippery IMO...guys would get to him and he would just slip away somehow.

He is a phenom but pretty raw as a passer. I would still take him with our pick at number 2...oh SNAP...we threw that away in San Antonio #-o

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Young definitely ran to the left more than once. He scrambled to the left as well, but seems incapable of throwing the ball once he starts moving that way. When moving to the right, he is still capable of throwing but usually tucks and runs.

I agree with Brian and Alpha, he is not a very good passer. He may have lit up the USC secondary, but they didn't play a very impressive game. The Longhorn receivers were often open by yards instead of feet. In the NFL Young won't have the luxury of his receivers being able to camp out and build a fire while waiting for his pass to arrive. The porosity of the Trojan secondary is what cost them that game, and also almost lost them the game against the Bulldogs of Fresno State.

Young is impressive running the ball.....he has Barry like instincts and evasiveness, but he isn't overly fast. Many linebackers in the NFL will be able to hunt him down.

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New Orleans, Tennessee, New York Jets, and Miami will all be looking for a QB in the draft. So far in the Mock Drafts I've seen they showed New Orleans taking Matt Leinhart #2, Tennessee taking Vince Young #3, and Miami taking Jay Cutler # 16.


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On the other hand, it was such a joy watching Leinart pass. My gawd, how many bullets did he just hit right in Jarret's chest, perfectly thrown balls into coverage. I love watching people say he's going to bust. That man is the best QB to come out since Peyton Manning. He loves that sideline go route, a little too much (threw a pick on that route, and got Kirtman crushed) but still executes it perfectly.


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Personally Matt didn't impress me. I haven't watched him until this game, but he didn't really impress me....maybe it was because he got rocked a couple times in the first half.

This was only the 2nd time I've seen Vince (Rose Bowl last year) and he was very impressive. I'm not sure where some of you are coming from about his accuracy, but to me it seemed that the ball was always there. When he needed to zip it, he did and when he needed some touch, it was there. IMHO Vince will be a better pro than Matt.

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Personally Matt didn't impress me. I haven't watched him until this game, but he didn't really impress me....maybe it was because he got rocked a couple times in the first half.

This was only the 2nd time I've seen Vince (Rose Bowl last year) and he was very impressive. I'm not sure where some of you are coming from about his accuracy, but to me it seemed that the ball was always there. When he needed to zip it, he did and when he needed some touch, it was there. IMHO Vince will be a better pro than Matt.


I agree Wags... To me Matt Leinhart is Joey Harrington part II. I don't think he'll play well w/o a dominate OL.


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VY, is a much better QB overall than Lienart and I am not just saying that b/c I am a Longhorn fan here in Austin. I do believe he could benefit from another year in the college ranks so he can get the Heisman that he deserves plus he can take Texas back to the National Championship.

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I think he should stay another year becuase he will be taken easily #1 and maybe next year the lions can trade to get him :arrow:

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