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I don't have a problem with Kiwi's weight, it's that height and him being near 6'8" and his ability to get leverage. It's easier to push a 6'8" 250 pound player than a 6'3" 250 pound player because of their center of gravity, and ability for the lineman to make their's lower than him and move him. But he has such long arms that he compensates for it.


January 22nd, 2006, 8:48 pm
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Brian wrote:
I don't have a problem with Kiwi's weight, it's that height and him being near 6'8" and his ability to get leverage. It's easier to push a 6'8" 250 pound player than a 6'3" 250 pound player because of their center of gravity, and ability for the lineman to make their's lower than him and move him. But he has such long arms that he compensates for it.
Not is you are tough to stay low then you are way harder to block if he stand up at all though he is a dead man

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January 23rd, 2006, 7:38 pm
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In reality does it matter what height he is listed at as long as he plays good and knows how to get position. Yes it sounds better for a de to be 6'5 and 268 than 6'7 and 268. Also remember he is still tall and and at 260 or whatever he is that is what most de are at.


January 23rd, 2006, 7:49 pm
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jrlax wrote:
In reality does it matter what height he is listed at as long as he plays good and knows how to get position. Yes it sounds better for a de to be 6'5 and 268 than 6'7 and 268. Also remember he is still tall and and at 260 or whatever he is that is what most de are at.


I disagree with that really... IMO it's about proportion and leverage... and knowing how to use it. If he is flexible and can crouch down and "make himself small," get underneath an OT and stand him up... the inches will help... if he can't and he plays tall, they'll hurt him. Keep in mind though, the shorter he is the more likely he will have a smaller wingspan... long arms make a big difference for a DE.


January 24th, 2006, 2:58 am
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Keep in mind though, the shorter he is the more likely he will have a smaller wingspan... long arms make a big difference for a DE.


He sure does look like he has long arms.

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If he is flexible and can crouch down and "make himself small," get underneath an OT and stand him up...


This is great in theory..........but the reality is that MOST players have to work hard to play low as it is. I consider him a more promising prospect at 6'5" tall because he has a better chance of staying lower than the OTs than a taller player.......and his wingspan is plenty long.


January 24th, 2006, 9:00 am
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Well they had the weigh ins at the Senior Bowl yesterday and Mathias actually came in at just a shade over 6'5".


January 24th, 2006, 9:15 am
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sweetd20 wrote:
Well they had the weigh ins at the Senior Bowl yesterday and Mathias actually came in at just a shade over 6'5".


lol.. that's what we've been talkin' about....


January 24th, 2006, 3:02 pm
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