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WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Barack Obama: The great jobs killer

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As former President Ronald Reagan might have said, "Obama, there you go again."

The current occupant of the White House claims to know how to create jobs. He claims jobs have been created. But so far the score is Great Obama Depression 2.2 million lost jobs, Obama 0 -- a blowout.







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Obama is as hopeless, helpless, clueless and bankrupt of good ideas as the manager of the Chicago Cubs in late September. This "community organizer" knows as much about private-sector jobs as Pamela Anderson knows about nuclear physics.

It's time to call Obama what he is: The Great Jobs Killer. With his massive spending and tax hikes -- rewarding big government and big unions, while punishing taxpayers and business owners -- Obama has killed jobs, he has killed motivation to create new jobs, he has killed the motivation to invest in new businesses, or expand old ones. With all this killing, Obama should be given the top spot on the FBI's Most Wanted List.

Meanwhile, he has kept the union workers of GM and Chrysler employed (with taxpayer money). He has made sure that most government employee union members got their annual raises for sleeping on the job (with taxpayer money). He made sure that his voters got handouts mislabeled as "tax cuts" even though they never paid taxes (with taxpayer money). And he made sure that major campaign contributors collected billions off government stimulus (with taxpayer money).

As far as the taxpayers -- the people who actually take risks with our own money to create small businesses and jobs and pay most of the taxes -- we require protection under the Endangered Species Act.

You won't find proof of the damage Obama is doing on Wall Street, but rather on Main Street. My friends are all part of the economic engine of America: Small business. Small business creates 75 percent of new jobs (and a majority of all jobs). I called one friend who was a wealthy restaurant owner. He says business is off by 60 percent. He's drowning in debt. He won't last much longer. His wealth is gone.

I called another friend in the business of home improvement. He says business is off 90 percent from two years ago. My contractor just filed personal bankruptcy. She won't be building any more homes. The hair salon where I've had my hair cut for years closed earlier this year. Bankrupt. But here's the clincher -- ESPN Zone just closed all their restaurants across the country. If they can't make it selling cheap food and overpriced beer with 100 big screens blaring every sporting event on the planet to a sports-crazed society, we are all in deep, deep trouble.

I've polled all my friends who own small businesses -- many of them in the Internet and high-tech fields. They all agree that in this new Obama world of high business taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains taxes, and workers compensation taxes, the key to success is to avoid employees. The only way to survive as a business owner today is by keeping the payroll very low and by hiring only independent contractors or part-time employees provided by temp agencies.

The days of jobs in the private sector with big salaries, full benefits, and pensions are over. We've all seen where those kinds of jobs get you as a business owner -- in Bankruptcy Court or surviving on government welfare like GM and Chrysler. Or in the case of government itself -- completely insolvent, but surviving by ripping off taxpayers and fraudulently running printing presses at the Fed all day and night to print money by the trillions.

Unfortunately, small businesses don't have the power to impose taxes or print money. So unlike government, we'll just have to cut employees and run lean and mean.

It has now become clear that, outside of the burgeoning field of Census takers, there will be no major increase in new jobs for years to come. Outside government, Obama has created a wasteland of economic ruin and depression that looks much like the landscape of Mel Gibson's first movie "Mad Max." Without a printing press in Obama's world, you're just plain out of luck.

The days of believing the Obama propaganda about a jobs recovery are over. The trillion-dollar corporate handouts (neatly named "stimulus") may have kept big business in the money for the past 18 months, and artificially propped up the stock market, but small business is the real canary in the coal mine.

My small business-owning friends aren't creating one job. Not one. They are shedding jobs. They are learning to do more with fewer employees. They are creating high-tech businesses that don't need employees. And many business owners are making plans to leave the country. In a high-tech world where businesses can be run from anywhere, Obama has a problem. His one-trick pony -- raise taxes, raise taxes, raising taxes -- is chasing away the business owners he desperately needs to pay his bills.

So who is going to pay Obama's taxes? Not his voters. They want government to pay them. Who is going to create Obama's jobs? Not his voters -- they've never created a job in their lives.

So what is Obama going to do? Maybe he can get Pamela Anderson on the line.

Wayne Allyn Root, a former vice presidential nominee for the Libertarian Party, writes from Henderson. His column appears every other week.

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This has more to do with Congress than Obama, but it's still bullshit:
Washington Examiner wrote:
Hugh Hewitt: Democrats deeming themselves defeated come November
By: Hugh Hewitt
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July 6, 2010
On the first day of July, the House of Representatives passed a "budget enforcement resolution" that "deemed as passed" a $1.12 trillion budget.

Thirty-eight House Democrats voted no, perhaps because they sense in this year of the Tea Party Movement it isn't good politics to engage in such a sham. But pass it did.

More tricks from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that hide nothing but actually bring great clarity to the next four months. House Democrats might have thought they were deeming as passed a budget, but what they were really doing is deeming their defeat in November.

Ruses and gimmicks, games and deceits have run their course. The public is fully aware of the crisis we face because of the Democrats' vast desire to spend money the country doesn't have on their political allies while waiting to spring massive taxes on their enemies -- employers -- until the lame duck session after the November voting but before the new Congress is seated.

Pelosi's spineless minions did not dare pass a real budget, for a real budget would have shown in black and white -- in red ink, actually -- just how wildly mismanaged the federal fisc has become.

The trio of President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Pelosi is putting the finishing touches on a one-year deficit of $1.6 trillion, while setting in motion an expansion of the standing debt to well north of $14 trillion. This is no mean feat in an era when Democrats themselves denounced George W. Bush's deficit of a mere $160 billion in 2007.

So the rank-and-file Democrats dared not pass a tell-all budget, even though it is the first job of the House of Representatives to appropriate money and to tell the country what it has done and what the implications are.

So they deemed a budget in place and went on to shower money on youth summer jobs, black farmers and state government employee unions while not delivering the funding for the war in a way that could have allowed the support to begin flowing to the troops.

That's how the Democrats run things. That is why they will get run out of town in the fall. Holding war funding hostage to pass payoffs to black farmers and teacher unions and using a "deemed as passed" budget to do so in the dead of night is not the sort of government the Framers had in mind.

It is exactly the sort of budget to inspire Tea Partiers and traditional conservatives to dig deep and contribute to the National Republican Congressional Committee or the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

There is even emerging a climate in which senators thought untouchable, such as New York's Chuck Schumer and Oregon's Ron Wyden, could suddenly find themselves as endangered as Wisconsin's Russ Feingold has become from Ron Johnson or Washington state's Patty Murray by Dino Rossi.

The utter contempt with which these Democrats have treated the future of the country and the burdens they have pushed on to the backs of our children and grandchildren have awakened not just an ordinary sense of outrage at profligacy but one fueled as well by parental protection of the next generation.

The congressional Democrats are political cowards, of course, but as sneaky as the most craven character in Dickens. Sen. Tom Harken, D-Iowa, is already hinting at what could occur in the lame duck session of Congress after the election -- a parting shot at sanity consisting of card-check, cap-and-tax and massive tax hikes no doubt.

The 41 GOP senators can and should commit now to blocking everything during that phase. A Congress that would deem a budget passed wouldn't hesitate to punish an ungrateful electorate that deemed it undesirable on Nov. 2.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... z0suASpvoQ

I wouldn't put anything past these clowns during the lame duck session of Congress.

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As promised, here's something on the Black Panther case:
Fox News wrote:
Former Justice Attorney Set to Testify in New Black Panther Case
By Eric Shawn

Published July 05, 2010
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A former Justice official who claims the administration backed off a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party for racial reasons is set to testify Tuesday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

The testimony from J. Christian Adams, who resigned from the Justice Department last month in protest of the administration's handling of the case, comes after he made a series of explosive allegations during an interview with Fox News last week. He said the administration abandoned an open-and-shut case of voter intimidation and that Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez gave false testimony before the commission in May.

Adams claims the administration has failed to prosecute non-whites when it comes to voting intimidation cases and that the New Black Panther incident demonstrates that.

"I don't think the department or the fine people who work there are corrupt, but in this particular instance, to abandon law-abiding citizens and abet wrongdoers constitutes corruption," Adams told Fox News.

The case stems from an incident on Election Day in 2008 in Philadelphia, where members of the New Black Panther Party were videotaped in front of a polling place, dressed in military-style uniforms and allegedly hurling racial slurs while one brandished a night stick.

The Bush Justice Department brought the first case against three members of the group, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voter Rights Act. The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court. But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012. The department boasted that justice had been served.

But Adams, the former administration lawyer, accused the Justice Department of not continuing the case for political and racial reasons.

Adams called the case "a slam dunk," telling Fox News that "nobody thought there was any doubt that this was the clearest case of voter intimidation that I've seen since I've been practicing law."

The Justice Department disagrees, saying it enforces voting rights laws equally. In a written statement, the department questioned the motives of Adams, now an attorney in Virginia and a blogger for Pajamas Media.

"It is not uncommon for attorneys with the department to have good faith disagreements about the appropriate course of action in a particular case, although it is regrettable when a former department attorney distorts the facts and makes baseless allegations to promote his or her agenda," the statement said.

But Bartle Bull, who was a poll watcher in Philadelphia in 2008, doesn't buy the Justice Department denials.

"I find it deeply offensive," Bull said. "I know people who died over these issues, like Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. If we can't defend their legacy, it's shameful to us and this administration."

Bull is a prominent New York Democrat and longtime political adviser. He was Robert F. Kennedy's New York campaign manager, went to the south in the 1960s to protect the voting rights of black voters and just came back from Afghanistan where he traveled with the troops.

He says the administration's actions amount to protecting the New Black Panthers.

"If Americans can't vote honestly, and the government doesn't protect their right to vote, we don't live in a democracy. Last year Obama complained when the government in Afghanistan did not run the election properly. What about Pennsylvania?" he said, claiming the president "violated his oath of office."

Bull has already testified before the Civil Rights Commission, and the commissioners also want to hear from Christopher Coates, the former chief of the Justice Department's voting section who has since been transferred to the U.S. attorney's office in South Carolina. But the commission claims the Justice Department is blocking Coates from testifying about why the case was dropped.

Bull said that in 2008, one of the Black Panthers turned to him and said "now you will know what it means to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

The result of the Justice Department action, or lack of it, he said, is that "these guys now think it's safe for them to bully voters and citizens. And that's why the Department of Justice must stand up."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/justice-attorney-set-testify-new-black-panther-case/

So, Obama will allow blacks to do anything they want to at the polls and the laws will only be enforced if you are white. This keeps getting worse.

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And the nightmare continues:
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Obama's worst foreign-policy mistake
By Mitt Romney
Tuesday, July 6, 2010

Given President Obama's glaring domestic policy missteps, it is understandable that the public has largely been blinded to his foreign policy failings. In fact, these may have been even more damaging to America's future. He fought to reinstate Honduras's pro-Chávez president while stalling Colombia's favored-trade status. He castigated Israel at the United Nations but was silent about Hamas having launched 7,000 rockets from the Gaza Strip. His policy of "engagement" with rogue nations has been met with North Korean nuclear tests, missile launches and the sinking of a South Korean naval vessel, while Iran has accelerated its nuclear program, funded terrorists and armed Hezbollah with long-range missiles. He acceded to Russia's No. 1 foreign policy objective, the abandonment of our Europe-based missile defense program, and obtained nothing whatsoever in return.

Despite all of this, the president's New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New-START) with Russia could be his worst foreign policy mistake yet. The treaty as submitted to the Senate should not be ratified.

New-START impedes missile defense, our protection from nuclear-proliferating rogue states such as Iran and North Korea. Its preamble links strategic defense with strategic arsenal. It explicitly forbids the United States from converting intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) silos into missile defense sites. And Russia has expressly reserved the right to walk away from the treaty if it believes that the United States has significantly increased its missile defense capability.

Hence, to preserve the treaty's restrictions on Russia, America must effectively get Russia's permission for any missile defense expansion. Moscow's vehemence over our modest plans in Eastern Europe demonstrate that such permission would be extremely unlikely.

The treaty empowers a Bilateral Consultative Commission with broad latitude to amend the treaty with specific reference to missile defense. New START does something the American public would never countenance and the Senate should never permit: It jeopardizes our missile defense system.


The treaty also gives far more to the Russians than to the United States. As drafted, it lets Russia escape the limit on its number of strategic nuclear warheads. Loopholes and lapses -- presumably carefully crafted by Moscow -- provide a path to entirely avoid the advertised warhead-reduction targets. For example, rail-based ICBMs and launchers are not mentioned. Similarly, multiple nuclear warheads that are mounted on bombers are effectively not counted. Unlike past treaty restrictions, ICBMs are not prohibited from bombers. This means that Russia is free to mount a nearly unlimited number of ICBMs on bombers -- including MIRVs (multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles) or multiple warheads -- without tripping the treaty's limits. These omissions would be consistent with Russia's plans for a new heavy bomber and reports of growing interest in rail-mobile ICBMs.

Under New START, the United States must drastically reduce our number of launchers but Russia will not -- it already has fewer launchers than the treaty limits. Put another way: We give, Russia gets. And more troubling, the treaty fails to apply the MIRV limits that were part of the prior START treaty. Again, it may not be coincidental that Russia is developing a new heavy-load -- meaning MIRV-capable -- ICBM.

New-START gives Russia a massive nuclear weapon advantage over the United States. The treaty ignores tactical nuclear weapons, where Russia outnumbers us by as much as 10 to 1. Obama heralds a reduction in strategic weapons from approximately 2,200 to 1,550 but fails to mention that Russia will retain more than 10,000 nuclear warheads that are categorized as tactical because they are mounted on missiles that cannot reach the United States. But surely they can reach our allies, nations that depend on us for a nuclear umbrella. And who can know how those tactical nuclear warheads might be reconfigured? Astonishingly, while excusing tactical nukes from the treaty, the Obama administration bows to Russia's insistence that conventional weapons mounted on ICBMs are counted under the treaty's warhead and launcher limits.

By all indications, the Obama administration has been badly out-negotiated. Perhaps the president's eagerness for global disarmament led his team to accede to Russia's demands, or perhaps it led to a document that was less than carefully drafted.

Whatever the reason for the treaty's failings, it must not be ratified: The security of the United States is at stake. The only responsible course is for the Senate to demand and scrutinize the full diplomatic record underlying the treaty. Then it must insist that any linkage between the treaty and our missile defense system be eliminated. In a world where nuclear weapons are proliferating, America's missile defense shield must not be compromised. As currently drafted, New START is a non-starter.

The writer was governor of Massachusetts from 2003 to 2007.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/05/AR2010070502657.html

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And who was it that said I shouldn't wish that this guy gets killed in office? Impeachment takes too long and won't happen. This idiot needs to go, he's ruining this country......not just for the moment, but for generations to come. It will take 20 years of Republican rule in Congress and in the White House to fix the mistakes this moron keeps making.

Putting him in the White House was akin to giving a monkey a machine gun at Woodstock.

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m2karateman wrote:
And who was it that said I shouldn't wish that this guy gets killed in office? Impeachment takes too long and won't happen. This idiot needs to go, he's ruining this country......not just for the moment, but for generations to come. It will take 20 years of Republican rule in Congress and in the White House to fix the mistakes this moron keeps making.

Putting him in the White House was akin to giving a monkey a machine gun at Woodstock.


I'm still not for him getting killed in office...

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M2K, it wasn't me that said you shouldn't wish that he gets killed. All I said was that you shouldn't type it on a public forum because the Obama Gestapo could be watching. But, I have changed my mind about that now, considering that literally thousands of people are doing the same thing, especially in the comment section of articles. Therefore, I'm going to come clean and state that I wish death upon him several times per day every day. Whenever I see him on TV, I first flip him the bird, then say, "Die MFer Die!", or something along those lines. Truth be told, I have never hated another human being in the world more than I do that socialist douchebag and I don't think I ever will.

Just ask steensn what I proposed the title of this thread should be, and that will tell you all you need to know. And I'm talking about the second title after steensn said, "The Obama Hate thread" sounded too mean. :lol:

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I know that some of this has been posted before, but ever wonder where some of that stimulus money went?
Big Government wrote:
Obama Says Stimulus Worked, Created Jobs… Here’s a Reminder of the Waste by Warner Todd Huston

In his recent trip to Racine, Wisconsin, President Obama claimed that his stimulus policies worked and “saved jobs.” He also said that his policies staved off another Great Depression. But lets take a look at some of the graft, waste and pointless, useless, wild-eyed spending that was in his so-called stimulus.

•$5 million to create a geothermal energy system for a shopping mall in Tennessee. The mall is over half empty of tenants and has had falling shopper attendance for years *
•$1.57 million to Penn State University study fossils in Argentina *
•$100,000 to a puppet theater in Minnesota *
•$2 million to build a replica railroad tourist trap in Carson City, Nev. *
•A boat cruise company in Chicago got almost $1 million to “combat terrorism” *
•$500,000 went to Ariz. State Univ. to study ant genetics *
•Another $450,000 went to Uinv. of Arizona to study ants *
•Almost $400,000 went to Univ. of New York to pay students to drink beer and smoke marijuana for a study there *
•$219,000 to the Nat’l Institute of Health to study if young people “hook-up” after getting drunk *
•$210,000 to the Univ. of Hawaii to study bees *
•$700,000 to crab fishermen in Oregon to pay for lost crab pots *
•$5,000 a person tax rebate if you buy a new electric golf cart (Wall Street Journal)
•Up to $1 million went to prisoners in $250 stimulus checks (FoxNews)
•$54 mil to a New York Indian tribe to run its casino (New York Post)
•$1 billion for a power plant in Mattoon, Illinois that is based on speculative science and may not even work **
•$15 million to back-road bridges that get little traffic in Wisconsin **
•$800,000 for a practically unused airport in Pennsylvania **
•$3.4 million for an animal walk way under a road in Florida **
•$1.15 million to install a guard rail for a lake that doesn’t even exist in Oklahoma **
•$10 million to renovate a rail station that has stood unused for a decade **
•$578,000 to battle homelessness in Union, New York even though the town says they have no homeless people there **
•$233,000 to the Univ. of Calif. to study why Africans vote… in Africa ***
•$2 million to build a new fire house in a Nevada town that has no firemen ***
•North Carolina schools got $4.4 million for literacy and math coaches… to teach their teachers! ***
•$54 million for a railroad project in Napa Valley went to a minority-owned company that then hired a local construction company for half the price, pocketing the rest ***
•A California company was given $15 million in stimulus money to monitor water quality in a stream it was under indictment for polluting previously***

Well, obviously this is just a tiny list of the graft, waste, and useless spending in Obama’s so-called stimulus bill but it serves to illustrate the fact that stimulating the economy was far from the minds of those congressmen that voted for the bill. It was more about paying off constituents than stimulating the economy.

Source unless noted: * = The Hill. ** = Americans for Tax Reform, *** = Fox News.

http://biggovernment.com/wthuston/2010/07/05/obama-says-stimulus-worked-created-jobs-heres-a-reminder-of-the-waste/

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I said you shouldn't wish for someone to be killed, and I still stand by that.

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HAHA! Three judges shoot down Obama again:
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Judges block Obama effort to close Yucca Mountain waste site
By JAMES ROSEN
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The Obama administration has suffered a defeat in its efforts to close the nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

Three administrative judges within the Nuclear Regulatory Commission ruled last week that President Barack Obama and Department of Energy Secretary Steven Chu don't have the authority to close the controversial site unilaterally. That can only be accomplished, the judges said, by an act of Congress.

"Unless Congress directs otherwise, DOE may not single-handedly derail the legislated decision-making process by withdrawing the (Yucca repository) application. DOE's motion must therefore be denied," the judges wrote, adding that the DOE had weakened its arguments by "conceding that the application is not flawed nor the (Yucca) site unsafe."

"Given the stated purposes of the Nuclear Waste Policy Act and the detailed structure of that legislation, it would be illogical to allow DOE to withdraw the application without any examination of the merits," the judges found.

The Yucca site has been controversial for a generation. The federal government designated Yucca Mountain in 1987 as the repository of highly toxic waste from nuclear complexes that built atomic bombs during the Cold War and has spent more than $10 billion readying it to receive some of the most dangerous material in the world.

Most Nevada politicians oppose the site, fearing its location 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas will become a drag on Las Vegas' $28 billion tourism industry, but politicians from other states with large stockpiles of nuclear materials are eager for the dump to open.

In addition to waste from the construction of atomic weapons, the site also will accept less toxic - but still plenty deadly - waste from the nation's 104 commercial nuclear reactors.

Republicans accuse Obama of moving to close the site to help Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in his tough re-election battle.

"The president is risking the country's energy independence in an effort to help Senator Reid win a tough election," said Sen. Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, senior Republican on a House Select Committee on Energy and Global Warming.

The administrative judges' ruling already is scheduled for reconsideration. On Wednesday, the day after the ruling was announced, the NRC quickly set a schedule to hear an appeal, calling for follow-up briefs to be filed by July 16.

"The department remains confident that we have the legal authority to withdraw the application for the Yucca Mountain repository," said DOE spokeswoman Jenni Lee. "We believe the administrative board's decision is wrong and anticipate that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will reverse that decision."

If the NRC rules against the Energy Department, the agency can appeal to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. That appellate court is already adjudicating parallel litigation involving Nevada, South Carolina, Washington and other states with large amounts of high-level nuclear waste from past atomic weapons production.

In January, Chu set up the Blue Ribbon Commission on America's Energy Future, led by former Rep. Lee Hamilton and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft, to seek alternatives to Yucca Mountain for radioactive waste disposal.

Not just the nuclear waste has proved controversial. The 1982 Nuclear Waste Policy Act also set a surcharge on the electrical bills of users of nuclear-generated power to develop and operate a dump for nuclear waste.

That surcharge, which has generated about $32 billion, has hit South Carolinians especially hard because nuclear power provides 51 percent of their electricity, more than in all but two of the other 30 states with commercial reactors.

After Obama moved to mothball Yucca, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., introduced a bill in April 2009 to give nuclear utility consumers rebates from the Yucca surcharges.

"The decision by the Obama administration to close Yucca Mountain was ill-advised and leaves our nation without a disposal plan spent nuclear fuel or Cold War waste," Graham said.

South Carolina politicians are united in backing the Yucca Mountain site also because of waste from the federal government's Savannah River Site on the South Carolina-Georgia border, one of the Department of Energy's main nuclear research facilities.

"Currently, South Carolina is storing 37 million gallons of liquid waste at SRS, as well as tons of used fuel rods at nuclear plants across the state that are intended to be shipped to Yucca Mountain," said Rep. John Spratt, a South Carolina Democrat.

"Should Yucca Mountain not be opened, South Carolina would be stuck with this waste indefinitely," he said.

Spratt said he will use his post as House Budget Committee chairman to try to restore at least some of the funds cut by Obama to start building the Yucca repository.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/04/20 ... z0svFeadUn

Eventually, Obama might figure out that he can't do whatever he wants, whenever he wants to do it, but I kinda doubt it.

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So Obama ends the manned space flight program so they can establish better relations with Muslims instead?
Fox News wrote:
Former NASA Director Says Muslim Outreach Push 'Deeply Flawed'
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Published July 06, 2010
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The former head of NASA on Tuesday described as "deeply flawed" the idea that the space exploration agency's priority should be outreach to Muslim countries, after current Administrator Charles Bolden made that assertion in an interview last month.

"NASA ... represents the best of America. Its purpose is not to inspire Muslims or any other cultural entity," Michael Griffin, who served as NASA administrator during the latter half of the Bush administration, told FoxNews.com.

Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

Officials from the White House and NASA on Tuesday stood by Bolden's statement that part of his mission is to improve relations with Muslim countries -- though NASA backed off the claim that such international diplomacy is Bolden's "foremost" responsibility.

Griffin said Tuesday that collaboration with other countries, including Muslim nations, is welcome and should be encouraged -- but that it would be a mistake to prioritize that over NASA's "fundamental mission" of space exploration.

"If by doing great things, people are inspired, well then that's wonderful," Griffin said. "If you get it in the wrong order ... it becomes an empty shell."

Griffin added: "That is exactly what is in danger of happening."

He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.

The former administrator stressed that any criticism should be directed at Obama, not Bolden, since NASA merely carries out policy.

The White House stood by Bolden on Tuesday. Spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a written statement to FoxNews.com that Obama "wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration.

"Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration," he said.

Bob Jacobs, NASA's assistant administrator for public affairs, echoed that point. However, he said that Bolden was speaking of priorities when it came to "outreach" and not about NASA's primary missions of "science, aeronautics and space exploration." He said the "core mission" is exploration and that it was unfortunate Bolden's comments are now being viewed through a "partisan prism."

Though the Al Jazeera interview drew widespread attention, it wasn't the first time Bolden made the assertion.

A Feb. 16 blog in the Orlando Sentinel reported that Bolden discussed the outreach during a lecture to engineering students. As he did in the interview with Al Jazeera last month, Bolden was quoted then saying Obama told him to "find ways to reach out to dominantly Muslim countries."

He reportedly talked about the importance of helping countries establish space programs and pointed to the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia, as a possible partner.

"We really like Indonesia because the State Department, the Department of Education (and) other agencies in the U.S. are reaching out to Indonesia as the largest Muslim nation in the world," he said.

Bolden did not describe such outreach as his prime mission at the time.

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo, and in the interview with Al Jazeera he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said.

He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission. "Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He also said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Griffin disputed this point. He said the U.S. can still make those strides without international aid if it wishes, and that, "To the extent that we wish to go to Mars, we can go to Mars."

Griffin said the U.S. should in fact seek international cooperation for those missions, but that it would be "clearly false" to suggest the U.S. needs that cooperation.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.

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What's next? Suicide bombers in space? :roll:

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Just ask steensn what I proposed the title of this thread should be, and that will tell you all you need to know. And I'm talking about the second title after steensn said, "The Obama Hate thread" sounded too mean. :lol:


It was bad...

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If you're against Obama's policies, having him die in office is probably the last thing you want. Primarily because Joe Biden wouldn't be one iota different, but also because public sympathy for his death would ensure that a great deal of his policy goals were passed, similar to how LBJ was able to get much of JFK's platform passed after his death.


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If you're against Obama's policies, having him die in office is probably the last thing you want. Primarily because Joe Biden wouldn't be one iota different, but also because public sympathy for his death would ensure that a great deal of his policy goals were passed, similar to how LBJ was able to get much of JFK's platform passed after his death.


Blueskies, that's the very first time someone has given me a very good reason for us not to wish Obama to die in office. You make a very, very good point.

So let me just say that I'd like it to be a trifecta......kill Obama, Biden and Pelosi.....that should get the point across to all the other idiots who think like them.

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Hope and Change... we'll get it, but not the way it was advertised. His election woke up the nation, which couldn't care less before, and is now hanging on every word. There's a major shift coming in November, and even Rhino Incumbents aren't safe.


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