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I've got some radical ideas, like outlawing health insurance, or allowing people to practice health care without licenses, or having poor hospitals where patient's families take care of them under supervision of nurses/hospital support staff.


You don't need to outlaw health insurance. The health insurance scheme/scam started from active government intervention. All you have to do is remove it, and the health insurance industry will die off naturally and without pissing people off. That is, either just tax health insurance benefits like income, or allow employees the option of receiving wages in place of the benefits tax free. Most younger workers would opt out, robbing the HI companies of a lot of premium paying customers who rarely get sick which would inevitably lead to their bankruptcy.

The license thing is another scam. Happens with the law, too. You used to be able to practice law without having gone to law school, or get a bachelor's in law. Can't do that anymore. Lawyers and doctors don't want it to be easy to enter their profession, it would increase their numbers too much, reduce their monopoly power, and reduce their wages. Does a general practitioner really need to spend 4 years in undergrad+ 4 years in med school and then residency? All the while they're racking up huge debt which they'll have to repay by charging their patients and they'll demand a higher wage because they didn't get to make any money at all until the age of 30.

EDIT: One thing I need to add is that I really think the lawsuit thing is extremely overblown. In any democratic society, lawsuits are a key to maintaining fairness. If I'm say, a corporate lawyer with an ivy league education in my early 30s, and I go in for a routine operation and the doctor screws up horrendously and I die, he's robbed my family of millions and millions of dollars in income. You can't cap situations like that. If anything, we just need to encourage judges/make it easier to throw out more frivolous lawsuits. Or, change to a system where the patient buys the malpractice insurance.


April 3rd, 2011, 4:04 pm
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The license thing is another scam. Happens with the law, too.

As a licensed health professional, I could not agree more. I don't mind the license giving credence to the thought I am skilled. (At Lionbacker I had to pass a lengthy written examination prior to earning the title 'Truckin Mack, Rehab Guru'). I would not mind it at all if unlicensed professionals existed, and advertised their talent as such. They would greatly cut into the cost (read: price I charge), but fine by me. I'll just have to work harder to earn my keep.

Just to be fully honest, I am nearing the end of my career, and so am fairly comfortable financially speaking. I'm not rich, but if I lost my job tomorrow, I'd probably be OK. The above situation would be much scarier for new grads, especially those who earned a doctoral degree in PT and still have to pay it back.

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Can anyone explain this:
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20% of new Obamacare waivers are from businesses in Pelosi's district
Rick Moran

There are times when irony is like a warm, sudsy bath, deliciously satisfying and causing one to revel in the glorious feeling of contentment it offers.

Medai Matters for America featured this headline in January:


Right-Wing Media Revive Myth That Health Care Waivers Are Political Favors


I'm afraid we're going to have to revive that "myth" all over again. Of the 204 waivers to Obamacare granted by HHS in April, "38 are for fancy eateries, hip nightclubs and decadent hotels in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's Northern California district," according to the Daily Caller.


That's in addition to the 27 new waivers for health care or drug companies and the 31 new union waivers Obama's Department of Health and Human Services approved.
Pelosi's district secured almost 20 percent of the latest issuance of waivers nationwide, and the companies that won them didn't have much in common with companies throughout the rest of the country that have received Obamacare waivers.

Other common waiver recipients were labor union chapters, large corporations, financial firms and local governments. But Pelosi's district's waivers are the first major examples of luxurious, gourmet restaurants and hotels getting a year-long pass from Obamacare.

Now, I am not a suspicious character by nature. I figure that the world is a truly wondrous place and that coincidences play a large role in the march of history.

But really now, do these companies really need an Obamacare waiver?

For instance, Boboquivari's restaurant in Pelosi's district in San Francisco got a waiver from Obamacare. Boboquivari's advertises $59 porterhouse steaks, $39 filet mignons and $35 crab dinners.

Then, there's Café des Amis, which describes its eating experience as "a timeless Parisian style brasserie" which is "located on one of San Francisco's premier shopping and strolling boulevards, Union Street," according to the restaurant's Web site.

"Bacchus Management Group, in partnership with Perry Butler, is bringing you that same warm, inviting feeling, with a distinctive San Francisco spin," the Web site reads. Somehow, though, the San Francisco upper class eatery earned itself a waiver from Obamacare because it apparently cost them too much to meet the law's first year requirements.


Let us weep for the troubles of the wealthy elites in Pelosi's district. Giving some poor illegal dishwasher health care insurance is just too much to bear, the cost too enormous, the price to high. Why, they may have to raise the price of those porterhouse steaks to $65! Think of the hardship!


I would tell Media Matters to go hang, but it wouldn't do any good. They will deny that there is any political favoritism being shown to businesses in Pelosi's congressional district. Just as they have denied that Democratic- friendly unions and corporations who have contributed to Democratic candidates are getting waivers for political reasons as well.

Meanwhile, pass the rubber ducky. This irony bath sure feels good.



http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/20_of_new_obamacare_waivers_ar.html

I guess Nancy Pelosi found out what's in the bill and doesn't like what it would do to her district or something. There really ought to be a criminal investigation over how they're handing out these waivers. Also, the unions were one of the biggest advocates for Obamacare, yet their waivers keep coming in. If it was so great and you demonstrated for it, why do you need a waiver from it, dipshits?

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May 18th, 2011, 11:33 pm
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Can't fault the businesses though...

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And it continues....
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Shocker: AARP Gets An Obamacare Waiver
Rob Port • May 20, 2011


Outside of the unions, there was perhaps no group more ardent in its support of Obamacare than the AARP. The advocacy group spent $121 million on advertising in favor of Obamacare, and millions more lobbying for it on Washington DC.

But now AARP’s insurance business, Medigap which competes with Medicare Advantage (a program AARP lobbied to have hamstrung by OBamacare), just got a waiver from complying with the law.

The Daily Caller has learned that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) rate review rules, which it finalized on Thursday, exempt “Medigap” policy providers, like the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP), from oversight when such providers increase payment rates for their supplemental insurance plans.

Insurance providers who aren’t exempt from Obamacare’s rate review rules are required to publicly release and explain some health care payment rate increases.

The AARP is the nation’s biggest seller of Medigap policies, or supplemental healthcare plans that add onto what Medicare won’t cover for seniors. The senior citizens interest group advocated for Obamacare to include an attack on Medigap policies’ biggest competitor, Medicare Advantage.

Though the White House and HHS dismiss allegations of political favoritism when it comes to who’s getting exceptions from the new health care regulations – such as in the recent uproar over the disproportionate number of Obamacare waivers that went to companies in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s district — Obamacare critics say the mere appearance of the administration helping friends is disturbing.

Keep in mind, again, that AARP is set to rake in billions in profits now that Obamacare has effective knocked Medicare Advantage out of the market.


http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/shocker-aarp-gets-an-obamacare-waiver/

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I told ya so a year ago:
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Employers Drop Insurance Over Obamacare

McKinsey & Co., the high profile global business consulting firm, surveyed 1300 businesses and found that "30 percent of employers will definitely or probably stop offering [employer-sponsored insurance] in the years after 2014."

That's the year that the full impact of ObamaCare is scheduled to kick in. Several other surveys have reached similar conclusions.

Another study found that among businesses with a "high awareness" of what ObamaCare is all about, more than half are planning to drop health care insurance benefits for their workers.

The result spells death to private insurance and life to nationalized healthcare just as conservatives predicted.

ObamaCare requires employers with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for their employees or face a $2000 fine.

Many employers are quick to conclude that they are better off to pay the fine than the escalating premium costs.

AT&T calculated that dropping coverage and paying the penalty will save them $1.8 billion annually.

That makes the decision pretty obvious.

Millions of the workers cut loose will be forced to shop within the government blessed "exchanges" – and will be eligible based on income levels for generous taxpayer funded premium subsidies.

Democrats know how to buy votes with taxpayer's money – or even worse, with debt. ObamaCare makes subsidies available up to 400% of poverty level income.

The phony budget projections used to sell ObamaCare were based on just 2.5 percent of workers with current employer provided plans to switch – not 30 or even 50 percent!

The real resulting impact to the federal treasury will be in the trillions according to former budget officials Douglas Holtz-Eakin and James Capretta.

That's another big budget buster that Obama and the Democrats kept hidden behind the curtain when they rammed the bill through Congress.

The end of employer provided health insurance benefits and consolidation into government controlled programs is a big step toward government controlled single-payer health care which has long been the not-so-subtle objective all along.

Never mind that we'll be bankrupt when we get there.

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2011/06/12/employers_drop_insurance_over_obamacare/page/full/
It's obvious to anyone with a rational mind that Obama is taking "baby steps" toward socialism with Obamacare and many other policies. If you don't know what I'm talking about by "baby steps" in this context, look it up. It was predicted decades ago.

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June 12th, 2011, 8:59 am
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I claimed this would happen as well... it was stupid clear the incentives were then there for businesses to stop providing healthcare...

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CBO, Pelosi unclear on Obamacare’s Medicaid glitch costs

Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller – Tue Jun 21, 8:12 pm ET

As details about the new-found Obamacare glitch, that allows for more than 3 million middle-class Americans to qualify Medicaid surface, the Obama administration and key members of Congress are mum on several points.

Was it intentional? According to the Associated Press, it was a negative result of a “well-meaning effort.” Obama administration officials and senior congressional Democrats, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi haven’t answered this question, and Pelosi’s office hasn’t responded to requests from The Daily Caller seeking comment.

“What I want to know is: did the CBO know about this? Did they include this spending in their original score of the law?” said Michael Cannon, health policy expert at the Cato Institute, in an email. “Or would this spending add even more to the cost of the law?”

The CBO performed a cost analysis of the Affordable Care Act, and it contends it did take the costs of this new-found glitch into consideration.

“We have been asked by a number of people whether, in its estimate of Medicaid enrollment under PPACA, CBO took into account the change made by that law in the income definition used to determine eligibility for Medicaid,” the CBO said in a statement to the House Budget Committee. “That income definition excludes the portion of Social Security income that is not taxable.

“The short answer is ‘yes,’” the statement read. “CBO took that new income definition into account in its estimate of Medicaid enrollment and costs. We have not separately estimated the number of early retirees who would be eligible under that income definition.” (Glitch in Obamacare could add 3 million to Medicaid roll)

Though the CBO says the “short answer” is “yes” when it comes to whether or not it included these 3 million people soon-to-be-eligible for Medicaid in its Obamacare cost analysis, some questions are still unanswered. Where did they get the information on how to make their analysis, and did it come from the people who wrote the law?

Also, if this was an intentionally-added provision, it would appear to be a part of a concerted effort to get millions of middle-class Americans on the government Medicaid dole. If it wasn’t intentional, then the next question is: are Democrats willing to repeal that part of the law?

“Assuming that Obamacare’s authors didn’t mean to include this middle-class Medicaid provision, one can imagine Republicans and Democrats agreeing to repeal this part of the law,” Cannon said. “But I expect House Republicans would use this embarrassing episode as leverage to repeal even more of the law. If so, the president and his party will be on the defensive as they try to explain why they want to increase the national debt with middle-class Medicaid.”

Rep. Cliff Stearns, Florida Republican and chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, told TheDC that this new revelation is another example of why Obamacare is flawed.

“It appears that this provision could move up to 3 million more people into Medicaid, including those making up to four times the federal poverty level,” Stearns said. “It is clearly another example of a massive increase in government that we cannot afford. Even though Obamacare was enacted over a year ago, we are still learning what was in the bill.”

Cannon echoed Stearns’s feelings that this new-found revelation shows yet again how Obamacare has negative consequences.

“When you ram a 2,000-page bill through Congress without due consideration, this is what you get: a law that accidentally kicks members of Congress out of their own health plans, inadvertently offers Medicaid to millions of middle-class retirees, and where consumers are clamoring for waivers to protect them from the law’s supposed consumer protections,” Cannon said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110622/pl_dailycaller/cbopelosiunclearonobamacaresmedicaidglitchcosts_1

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saw this one coming...

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(Reuters) - An appeals court ruled Friday that President Barack Obama's healthcare law requiring Americans to buy healthcare insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to the White House.

The Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the wide-ranging law could remain in effect.

The legality of the so-called individual mandate, a cornerstone of the 2010 healthcare law, is widely expected to be decided by the Supreme Court. The Obama administration has defended the provision as constitutional.

The case stems from a challenge by 26 U.S. states which had argued the individual mandate, set to go into effect in 2014, was unconstitutional because Congress could not force Americans to buy health insurance or face the prospect of a penalty.

"This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives," a divided three-judge panel said.

Obama and his administration had pressed for the law to help halt the steep increases in healthcare costs and expand insurance coverage to the more than 30 million Americans who are without it.

It argued that the requirement was legal under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. One of the three judges of the appeals court panel, Stanley Marcus, agreed with the administration in dissenting from the majority opinion.

The majority "has ignored the undeniable fact that Congress' commerce power has grown exponentially over the past two centuries and is now generally accepted as having afforded Congress the authority to create rules regulating large areas of our national economy," Marcus wrote.

Many other provisions of the healthcare law are already being implemented.

The decision contrasts with one by the U.S. Appeals Court for the 6th Circuit, based in Cincinnati, which had upheld the individual mandate as constitutional. That case has already been appealed to the Supreme Court.

The Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, has yet to rule on a separate challenge by the state of Virginia.

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Working it's way up.

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Question is do they let it play out in more courts and take it up this winter and rule in Summer of 2012, or do they take it up late in 2012 and rule in 2013. 2012 will effect the election, 2013 won't.


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