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why no Rob Paul love there Steensn? just curious...

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I repsect the guy, but I can't vote for someone I only agree with half he says. You aready tried to call me out for it in another thread, so I am not sure why you are even asking. Although I like his simplistic approach to fixing the budget I think it is to blunt and axes positive things.

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like I said I was curious. Just wonderin what the socialist view of him was.

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Lol, love it. The cons call me socialist and the libs call me a neocon. Nobody wants me...

In all reality, it's the same way real freedom loving Patriots feel about you with your restricting NIMBY hatred. Just let them be you socialist!

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May 16th, 2011, 5:14 pm
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That's what ya get for being a blue dog ;) You know its DWTS that put you over the edge right? lol


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Hey, Im just callin a duck a duck is all! :wink:

and Im a lil confused...(in all honmesty. no sarcasm at all). whataya mean by
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In all reality, it's the same way real freedom loving Patriots feel about you with your restricting NIMBY hatred. Just let them be you socialist!


Im not the type to tell others what they should or shouldn't do, no matter whose backyard they are in. Thought I was pretty clear on my stance of "the more choices the better".

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Point is, everyone has a line they draw from a personal level regarding what rights of the group of people interfere with the rights of the people individually for their own protection. To call someone socialist for having a slightely different line is a red herring... even Ron Paul is a socialist to some people, doesn't mean he is socialist.

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regularjoe12 wrote:
like I said I was curious. Just wonderin what the socialist view of him was.

Hey now. While Steensn is obviously a die hard EnviroNazi, I wouldn't call him a socialist....yet. But give him some time though. The environmental movement has been taken over by commies like Van Jones, so it could only be a matter of time before the rest of their fantasyland thinking begins to sink in.

As for Sarah, if she chooses to run, I'll let you guys know everything about her. I'll even start a Sarah Palin Love Thread or something. :D

Also, I kinda feel the same way about Ron Paul as Steensn does. I only agree with just over half of what he says, but I greatly admire the way he attacks issues that I do care about. But, in the long run, I can only support someone I agree with atleast 90% of the time, and Ron Paul isn't it.

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As for Sarah, if she chooses to run, I'll let you guys know everything about her. I'll even start a Sarah Palin Love Thread or something. :D


Just keep it far away from the girly thread content ;)

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Don't worry, steensn. The only "swimsuit" pictures of Sarah I've found thus far are from a beauty pageant 25 years ago. I don't think I'll find any more though.

On a side note, Sarah was on Hannity tonight and said something that I think most people can agree with. She wants a candidate that will take on the machine on both sides of the aisle. She took on and defeated corruption in Alaska and now she wants to do the same in DC. What is wrong with that? The "establishment" will make you think otherwise though.

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I was actually intriged by Palin early on. I work in a very liberal place and have defended her as the Alaskan governer to some VERY snobby liberals. She did a great job there I just think she came out too green onto the bloody presidential campaign. She wasn't ready, doesn't she won't be in the future which is why I am willing to evaluate her again.

She has the right idea and got it done in Alaska, more than almost all the politicians in Washington.

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Ron Paul's first campaign ad:

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Ron Paul wrote:
Statement on the Cut, Cap and Balance Act
Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak against HR 2560, the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act. This bill only serves to sanction the status quo by putting forth a $1 trillion budget deficit and authorizing a $2.4 trillion increase in the debt limit.

When I say this bill sanctions the status quo, I mean it quite literally.

First, it purports to eventually balance the budget without cutting military spending, Social Security, or Medicare. This is impossible. These three budget items already cost nearly $1 trillion apiece annually. This means we can cut every other area of federal spending to zero and still have a $3 trillion budget. Since annual federal tax revenues almost certainly will not exceed $2.5 trillion for several years, this Act cannot balance the budget under any plausible scenario.

Second, it further entrenches the ludicrous beltway concept of discretionary vs. nondiscretionary spending. America faces a fiscal crisis, and we must seize the opportunity once and for all to slay Washington's sacred cows-- including defense contractors and entitlements. All spending must be deemed discretionary and reexamined by Congress each year. To allow otherwise is pure cowardice.

Third, the Act applies the nonsensical narrative about a "Global War on Terror" to justify exceptions to its spending caps. Since this war is undeclared, has no definite enemies, no clear objectives, and no metric to determine victory, it is by definition endless. Congress will never balance the budget until we reject the concept of endless wars.

Finally, and most egregiously, this Act ignores the real issue: total spending by government. As Milton Friedman famously argued, what we really need is a constitutional amendment to limit taxes and spending, not simply to balance the budget. What we need is a dramatically smaller federal government; if we achieve this a balanced budget will take care of itself.

We do need to cut spending, and by a significant amount. Going back to 2008 levels of spending is not enough. We need to cut back at least to where spending was a decade ago. A recent news article stated that we pay 35 percent more for our military today than we did 10 years ago, for the exact same capabilities. The same could be said for the rest of the government. Why has our budget doubled in 10 years? This country doesn't have double the population, or double the land area, or double anything that would require the federal government to grow by such an obscene amount.

We need to cap spending, and then continue decreasing that cap so that the federal government grows smaller and smaller. Allowing government to spend up to a certain percentage of GDP is insufficient. It doesn't matter that the recent historical average of government outlays is 18 percent of GDP, because in recent history the government has way overstepped its constitutional mandates. All we need to know about spending caps is that they need to decrease year after year.

We need to balance the budget, but a balanced budget amendment by itself will not do the trick. A $4 trillion balanced budget is most certainly worse than a $2 trillion unbalanced budget. Again, we should focus on the total size of the budget more than outlays vs. revenues.

What we have been asked to do here is support a budget that only cuts relative to the President's proposed budget. It still maintains a $1 trillion budget deficit for FY 2012, and spends even more money over the next 10 years than the Paul Ryan budget which already passed the House.

By capping spending at a certain constant percentage of GDP, it allows for federal spending to continue to grow. Tying spending to GDP creates an incentive to manipulate the GDP figure, especially since the bill delegates the calculation of this figure to the Office of Management and Budget, an agency which is responsible to the President and not to Congress. In the worst case, it would even reward further inflation of the money supply, as increases in nominal GDP through pure inflation would allow for larger federal budgets.

Finally, this bill authorizes a $2.4 trillion rise in the debt limit. I have never voted for a debt ceiling increase and I never will. Increasing the debt ceiling is an endorsement of business as usual in Washington. It delays the inevitable, the day that one day will come when we cannot continue to run up enormous deficits and will be forced to pay our bills.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I sympathize with the aims of this bill's sponsors, I must vote against HR 2560. It is my hope, however, that the looming debt ceiling deadline and the discussion surrounding the budget will further motivate us to consider legislation in the near future that will make meaningful cuts and long-lasting reforms.

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MAn I do like me some Ron Paul! I dont care who becomes president, NOT putting this guy in charge of all things financial is a mistake IMO. ( and no I dont think He'd get elected as Pres...although he does have my vote)

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Ron's biggest weakness is his personality/apparance. He just comes off as sort of this weird little frail dood. He will never be POTUS, but I do like a lot of his views.

IMO Michelle Bachman is a much stronger, much more intelligent candidate than Sara Palin is. I also like Herman Cain, I wish he was our first "black" president, and this current debacle was just a nightmare, but you can't unscramble those eggs...

I like John Huntsman a lot. I think he has a lot to offer, and I think we could benefit greatly by having him as our pres during this economic crisis. I think Thad McCotter is sweet, but he's never going to get elected, again weird frail dood... I like Tim Pawlenty a lot, but my favorite guy so far is Rick Perry.


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