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Norway reeling after two deadly attacks
By the CNN Wire Staff
July 22, 2011 2:26 p.m. EDT

(CNN) -- Norway came under deadly attack Friday with a massive bombing in the heart of its power center and a shooting at the ruling party's youth camp outside the capital.

At least seven people were killed in the blast in Oslo, police said. A number of others were injured both in Oslo and at the youth camp.

It was not immediately clear whether the two incidents were related. But police spokesman Bjorn Erik Sem-Jacobsen told state television broadcaster NRK that authorities have good reason to believe they were.

The prime minister, whose office was badly damaged in the Oslo blast, leads Norway's Labour Party, which runs the youth camp.

In northern Utoya Island, a person dressed up as a policeman fired shots at the Labour Party Youth Camp with about 700 people, injuring several people, NRK said. Witnesses described a scene of utter chaos and said many people were shot.

Police have arrested one person in the shooting, NRK said.

Oslo Mayor Fabian Stang said it was a "terrible day" for Norwegians.

An Oslo police spokesman said the explosion was caused by a bomb. No one has claimed responsibility.

Several buildings were badly damaged, many of the windows of the government tower that houses the prime minister's offices blown out. Emergency teams rushed the injured, some bleeding profusely, to hospitals.

Unaccustomed to such deadly scenes, Norway was reeling.

Vivian Paulsen, media adviser for the Norwegian Red Cross, lives 20 minutes away from the center of Oslo in the northern outskirts of the city. She said she heard a "huge blast."

"I heard the big bang, I didn't think it was anything serious. I can still see smoke coming up from the place," she said, watching from her apartment balcony. She also heard sirens and ambulances.

As for Oslo, she said what others have been saying: Events like this don't happen in the northern European capital.

"There's occasional arrests of terror suspects we read about in the paper, or people planning something."
Conflicting reports surfaced on whether a second blast followed the first, which occurred mid-afternoon.

"We don't know if this comes from a terrorist action; we don't know yet," said the police spokesman. "We don't know exactly how many explosions (there) were yet. Oslo center has been evacuated."

He confirmed that Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg was not in his office at the time of the blast and is unhurt.

Hans Kristian Amundsen, state secretary of Norway, told CNN he could not confirm that the explosion had been a bomb but said it was a "very serious situation."

He added: "I can confirm that the prime minister is safe; he was not at his office, and he is now working."
Amundsen said the first priority was helping people still inside the affected buildings and injured people already taken to the hospital.

Oslo University Hospital confirmed it had received 10 patients but could not comment on their condition.

Nick Soubiea, an American-Swedish tourist in Oslo, said he was less than 100 yards from the blast, which he described as deafening.

"It was almost in slow motion, like a big wave that almost knocked us off our chairs," he told CNN. "It was extremely frightening."

He said the streets were crowded with people trying to get away from the center of the city. "There are people running down the streets, people crying, everyone's on their cell phones calling home," he said.

Several buildings in Oslo were on fire, she said, and smoke was billowing from them.

Walter Gibbs, a journalist with Reuters, said he saw eight injured people, including two or three with serious wounds and one who appeared dead.

Gibbs said he believed one explosion happened on an upper floor of a main government building. He said it blew out every window on the side of the building.

The blast also severely damaged the Oil Ministry and left it in flames, he said.

A U.S. official said it was too soon to tell what caused the explosion or whether it was a terrorist attack. The possibility of terrorism is always a concern because of the ongoing threat from al Qaeda to launch attacks in Europe, the official said.

Heide Bronke, a State Department spokeswoman, said Washington was monitoring the situation but did not have any word of U.S. casualties.

"We condemn these despicable acts of violence," Bronke said. "Our hearts are with the victims and their families, and we have reached out to the Norwegian government to express our condolences."

British Foreign Secretary William Hague also condemned the attacks.

"We condemn all acts of terrorism," he said. "The UK stands shoulder to shoulder with Norway and all our international allies in the face of such atrocities."

In the aftermath of tragedy, Norway, spared such attacks in the past, was left to question why they happened and who was behind them.

CNN terrorism analyst Paul Cruickshank said it was far too early to draw any conclusions on whether it was terrorism and who would carry it out. But, he said, by looking at the extent of the damage, it was plain to see the hallmarks of a major attack.

Cruickshank said that in recent months, there had been increased "chatter" about Norway, which had been investigating militants suspected of being linked to al Qaeda.

Norway also drew the ire of al Qaeda for publishing the controversial political cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed that originally appeared in a Danish newspaper and sparked outrage in the militant Islamic community.
The Scandinavian country also plays a part in NATO's operation in Afghanistan, and now, in Libya.

Norway has been largely spared from terrorism. But last December, an attempted suicide bombing in Stockholm shocked neighboring Sweden.

In July of last year, Norwegian authorities announced the arrests of three suspects in connection with an investigation into terrorist plots in New York and the United Kingdom.

The three were suspected of plotting terrorist attacks and having connections to al Qaeda, the prime minister's office said at the time.

Stoltenberg, who has been prime minister since October 2005, heads a coalition government made up of the Labour Party, the Socialist Left Party and the Centre Party.

CNN's Laura Smith-Spark, Joe Sterling, Moni Basu, Chelsea Bailey, Claudia Rebaza and Cynthia Wamwayi contributed to this report.

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Youth camp - really? How low can people really go - amazing!!!

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how does anyone have any kinda beef with Norway?? I dont even understand at all. It's like Bombing Canada...why? they never hurt anyone and arnt even a global authority.

Unless yer a big anti fishing nut why go after Norway?????

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how does anyone have any kinda beef with Norway?? I dont even understand at all. It's like Bombing Canada...why? they never hurt anyone and arnt even a global authority.

Unless yer a big anti fishing nut why go after Norway?????


Go ask the Jihad...

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regularjoe12 wrote:
how does anyone have any kinda beef with Norway?? I dont even understand at all. It's like Bombing Canada...why? they never hurt anyone and arnt even a global authority.

Unless yer a big anti fishing nut why go after Norway?????


Go ask the Jihad...


I'd be glad to. Got an address? :wink:

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regularjoe12 wrote:
how does anyone have any kinda beef with Norway?? I dont even understand at all. It's like Bombing Canada...why? they never hurt anyone and arnt even a global authority.

Unless yer a big anti fishing nut why go after Norway?????


Why are all wild gunman attacks in gun-free zones? People like this want victims, not a fight. As soon as anyone shows up to show resistance they kill themselves.


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njroar wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
how does anyone have any kinda beef with Norway?? I dont even understand at all. It's like Bombing Canada...why? they never hurt anyone and arnt even a global authority.

Unless yer a big anti fishing nut why go after Norway?????


Why are all wild gunman attacks in gun-free zones? People like this want victims, not a fight. As soon as anyone shows up to show resistance they kill themselves.


So, let's put a world wide ban on Gun Free zones. Mandate that every able bodied people are educated on the use of firearms and mandated to carry a firearm at all times. I guarantee you will see the end of these slaughters.


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But Norway suuuuuuuuucks

Nice country, but the people are the worst

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Looks like it wasn't a Muslim afterall:
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Death Toll Rises to 91 in Norway Attacks
By ELISA MALA and J. DAVID GOODMAN
Published: July 23, 2011

OSLO — The Norwegian police on Saturday charged a 32-year-old man, whom they identified as a Christian fundamentalist with right-wing connections, over the bombing of a government center here and a shooting attack on a nearby island that together left at least 91 people dead.

The police said they did not know if the man, identified by the Norwegian media as Anders Behring Breivik, was part of a larger conspiracy. He is being questioned under the country’s terrorism laws, the police said, and is cooperating with the investigation of the attacks, the deadliest on Norwegian soil since World War II.

Some witnesses to the shooting on the island raised the possibility of a second gunman, but police could not confirmed the reports. Still, they did not rule out the possibility.

“We are not sure whether he was alone or had help,” a police official, Roger Andresen, said at a televised news conference. “What we know is that he is right-wing and a Christian fundamentalist.” So far Mr. Breivik has not been linked to any anti-jihadist groups, he said.

On Saturday, King Harald and Queen Sonja met with survivors of the camp shooting and their family members at a hotel outside Oslo.

The prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, who also met with survivors on Saturday, would not speculate on a motive for the attacks.

“Compared to other countries I wouldn’t say we have a big problem with right-wing extremists in Norway,” Mr. Stoltenberg told reporters at a news conference. “But we have had some groups, we have followed them before, and our police is aware that there are some right-wing groups.”

As details of the shooting continued to unfold, soldiers arrived in Oslo on Saturday to secure government buildings. The explosions here, from one or more bombs, turned the tidy Scandinavian capital into a scene reminiscent of terrorist attacks in Baghdad or Oklahoma City, panicking people and blowing out the windows of government buildings, including one that housed the office of the prime minister.

Even as the police locked down a large area of the city after the blast, the suspect, dressed as a police officer, entered the youth camp on the island of Utoya, about 19 miles northwest of Oslo, a Norwegian security official said, and opened fire. “He said it was a routine check in connection with the terror attack in Oslo,” one witness told VG Nett, the Web site of a national newspaper.

The police said the suspect had used “a machine pistol” in the attack, but declined to provide additional details.

At least 84 people, some as young as 16, were killed on the island, the police said Saturday on national television. The death toll could rise as they continue to search for bodies in the waters around the island.

In a news conference on Saturday, the Norwegian foreign minister, Jonas Gahr Store, confirmed that former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland had made a speech on Utoya hours before the shooting.

Adrian Pracon, who had been working in an information booth on the island, told the BBC that almost everyone on Utoya — about 700 people — had gathered after reports of the Oslo bombing.

It was at that point, Mr. Pracon told the BBC, that a man in a police uniform arrived on the island and opened fire on the group.

“People were falling dead right in front of me,” Mr. Pracon said. “I ran through the campus to the tent area. I saw the gunman — two people started to talk to him and two seconds later they were both shot.”

He described the gunman as “sure, calm and controlled.”

“He screamed at us that we would all die,” Mr. Pracon said.

Terrified youths jumped into the water and “started to swim in a panic, and Utoya is far from the mainland,” said Bjorn Jarle Roberg-Larsen, a Labor Party member who spoke by phone with teenagers on the island, which has no bridge to the mainland. “Others are hiding. Those I spoke with don’t want to talk more. They’re scared to death.”

Many could not flee in time.

“He first shot people on the island,” a 15-year-old camper named Elise told The Associated Press. “Afterward he started shooting people in the water.”

Mr. Pracon said he also jumped into the water, but realized he could not reach the mainland and turned back.

“I saw him standing 10 meters from me, shooting at the people who were swimming,” he told the BBC. “He aimed his machine gun at me and I screamed at him, ‘No please no, don’t do it.’ I don’t know if he listened to me but he spared me.”

A Twitter account apparently belonging to Mr. Breivik had one item, posted last Sunday: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.

Mr. Pracon said he was huddled freezing in the cold rain with a number of other people, when the gunman returned later.

“The shooting started again and people were falling on top of me, on my legs and falling into the water,” he said, according to the BBC, “that’s when many people died. I just had to shield myself behind them, praying he wouldn’t see me.”

The gunman came so close that Mr. Pracon said he could feel the man’s breath and the warmth of the gun barrel, “But I didn’t move and that’s what saved my life,” he told the BBC.

Mr. Breivik was captured “by the emergency forces,” police officials said Saturday, but declined to provide further detail about the circumstances of his capture.

“As for right now, one man has been apprehended, and that’s all I can say,” Mr. Andresen said. The acting police chief, Sveinung Sponheim, said the suspect’s Internet postings “suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but if that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen.”

He said the suspect had been seen in Oslo before the explosions. The police and other authorities declined to say what the suspect’s motivations might have been, but many speculated that the target was Mr. Stoltenberg’s liberal government.

The police said they also recovered explosives on the island.

Mr. Breivik had registered a farm-related business in Rena, in eastern Norway, which the authorities said allowed him to order a large quantity of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an ingredient that can be used to make explosives.

Reuters quoted a spokeswoman from a farm supply chain as saying that the suspect had purchased six metric tons of fertilizer in May. “These are goods that were delivered on May 4,” Oddny Estenstad, a spokeswoman at agricultural supply chain Felleskjoepet Agri, told Reuters, without giving the exact type of fertilizer purchased.

Authorities were investigating whether the chemical may have been used to make the bombs.

A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian and his politics as conservative. It said he enjoys hunting, the video games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and books including Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and George Orwell’s “1984.”

There was also a Twitter account apparently belonging to Mr. Breivik. It had one item, posted last Sunday: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”

The attacks bewildered a nation better known for its active diplomacy and peacekeeping missions than as a target for extremists.

In Oslo, office workers and civil servants said that at least two blasts, which ripped through the cluster of modern office buildings around the central Einar Gerhardsen plaza, echoed across the city in quick succession around 3:20 p.m. local time. Giant clouds of light-colored smoke rose hundreds of feet as a fire burned in one of the damaged structures, a six-story office building that houses the oil ministry.

The force of the explosions blew out nearly every window in the 17-story office building across the street from the oil ministry, and the streets on each side were strewn with glass and debris. The police combed through the debris in search of clues.

Mr. Stoltenberg’s office is on the 16th floor in a towering rectangular block whose facade and lower floors were damaged. The justice ministry also has its offices in the building.

Norwegian authorities said they believed that a number of tourists were in the central district at the time of the explosion, and that the toll would surely have been higher if not for the fact that many Norwegians were on vacation and many more had left their offices early for the weekend.

“Luckily, it’s very empty,” said Stale Sandberg, who works in a government agency a few blocks down the street from the prime minister’s office.

After the explosions, the city filled with an unfamiliar sense of vulnerability. “We heard two loud bangs and then we saw this yellow smoke coming from the government buildings,” said Jeppe Bucher, 18, who works on a ferry boat less than a mile from the bomb site. “There was construction around there, so we thought it was a building being torn down.”

He added, “Of course I’m scared, because Norway is such a neutral country.”

For some Norwegians on Saturday, the scale of the attacks, and the fact that they appeared to have been carried out by one of their own, seemed particularly hard to grasp.

“It is difficult to think this is coming from inside our country, not outside,” said Thorbjorn Jagland, a Norwegian who is secretary general of the Council of Europe. “This is something surprising for all of us.”

“This is something that is not possible to understand at all,” he told BBC radio.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/world/europe/24oslo.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&hp

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The Norwegian police on Saturday charged a 32-year-old man, whom they identified as a Christian fundamentalist with right-wing connections, over the bombing of a government center here and a shooting attack on a nearby island that together left at least 91 people dead.


That's as far as I read. I have to say that there is no flipping way that jack wagon is a Christian Fundamentalist. He's just MENTAL. GOD DOES NOT order bombings. Mentally defective people order bombings and then deflect the blame onto GOD.


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Wait, wait...

So if its an islamic fundamentalist, that's just islam as a religion.

But if its a Christian fundamentalist, well he wasn't a "true" christian.

Hypocritical?


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Its not Hypocritical at all. Islam embraces and cheers on the terrorists, then says "we're not ALL like that." Christians immediately say that's not how Christianity is. Not a single section of Christianity will agree or embrace him. Unlike Islam, these actions aren't written in our religious text.


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Wait, wait...

So if its an islamic fundamentalist, that's just islam as a religion.

But if its a Christian fundamentalist, well he wasn't a "true" christian.

Hypocritical?


Did I ever make that claim? No I didn't. So stop slandering me. I never, ever, have asserted that all people who practice Islam are terrorists. That would be just as much an ignorant statement as the words you just put in my mouth..


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It sounds to me like the guy did this based on his POLITICAL views (conservative) rather than his RELIGIOUS views.

Just because he is identified as a Christian means that it was this that pushed him into committing this atrocity. If he comes out and says as much, then it's a different story. But it seems to me he snapped due to the liberal government that's in place.

Terrible, terrible act regardless. Shooting a bunch of teenagers? Yeah, that's gonna prove your point.

It will be interesting to see just what kind of punishment this guy receives from the "liberal government" is Oslo, and how soon it happens.

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I believe the max jail sentance in Norway is around 20 years and many murderers serve around 7-8. Don't quote me on that.

I thought the Jihad claimed they were responsible, that is why I posted that. Guess that story was wrong.

As for him being a Christian or Islamic, doesn't matter as neither one calls for this type of lunacy. This guy was a freak no matter which God he called his own.

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