So, I was wondering what the "scientific/wacko" community of Lionbacker thought. Have we, can we, will, we ever discover and create a machine that creates more energy than it consumes?

National Geographic did an article on neighborhood nuclear reactors that would provide the power necessary for many homes. It was interesting.

Not exactly the same thing. The neighborhood nuclear reactor requires fuel to run, making it a traditional power plant. Such as below where you run a permanent magnet generator and motor hooked together using the energy created from the generator to power a lightbulb or something as well as power the motor turning it. Meaning you have no extra fuel going into the system.

Nicholae Tesla had plans for a perpetual free energy machine that the Fed confiscated, along with everything else he was working on, when Tesla died.

To put it as basic as I can explain it:

step 1: Drill a 6" wide hole deep into the lower layer of the Earth's mantle, stopping just short of the outer core.

We currently, do not have the ability to drill that deep.

step 2: Cap off said hole into a pipe that channels into a steam generator.

step 3: Introduce a steady stream of water into said hole.

This is boiled into steam and channeled into the steam generator producing FAR MORE electricity than it takes to pump the water into the hole.

That isnt perpetual motion or free energy, its geothermal.

I didn't say it was perpetual motion. I said it was a perpetual free energy machine. Once you start it up, it runs forever if properly maintained.

Oh, sorry, threw wrong word out. But that is still not perpetual free energy either as you still have an energy source (the mantel). By that definition any wind, solar, or geothermal would be free energy which is not exactly what is posted above.

I'm in favor of any energy source which would toss windpower into the scrap heap where it belongs.

Oops, I had to type that twice since the wind stopped blowing and I lost my internet connection for a couple of minutes. I had better hit "Submit" before I lose it again.

Well if we ever do we'll be invalidating the 1st law of thermodynamics. That would certainly be something.

I would love to be part of that game changer!

Good thing it doesn't integrate like that or we'd be screwed.

I truly believe that we already have said capabilities but it will be a long time before it's publicly released, like not til we consume and run out of every profitable resource on this f'n planet long time.

I also truly believe that we have many, many, other technologies well beyond what anyone is publicly aware of that won't be released as public information til they have no choice but to let the secret out. For example, I won't go as far as to say the something like the TR-3B is actually real (though I also won't discount the possibility) but I believe project aurora was very real and that some sort of aircraft was created, probably the craft that came to be known by the project name in lore, the "Aurora", the one that leaves those circular vapor trails.

I just find it hard to believe that every single one of the thousands of rumors and "sightings" are all fake. We know that the government develops new technology regularly and we know for a fact that the information is not publicly released for quite some time from the F-117 which was created in the 70's and was never publicly acknowledged (if I remember correctly) until the late 80's.

My own personal belief is that whatever we know about, is always at least one generation behind what has really been created.

How do you explain the push for things that use zero natural resources like win, solar, and geo thermal? If there is a restriction on devices that make more energy than they consume, why not these?



I will agree that there is technology within the gov't that we know nothing about as it is top secret.