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Here we are again...its that time to see where you line up with our 'political heroes'

Where do YOU fall in?

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In the introduction, we explained the inadequacies of the traditional left-right line.


If we recognise that this is essentially an economic line it's fine, as far as it goes. We can show, for example, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot, with their commitment to a totally controlled economy, on the hard left. Socialists like Mahatma Gandhi and Robert Mugabe would occupy a less extreme leftist position. Margaret Thatcher would be well over to the right, but further right still would be someone like that ultimate free marketeer, General Pinochet.

That deals with economics, but the social dimension is also important in politics. That's the one that the mere left-right scale doesn't adequately address. So we've added one, ranging in positions from extreme authoritarian to extreme libertarian.
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Both an economic dimension and a social dimension are important factors for a proper political analysis. By adding the social dimension you can show that Stalin was an authoritarian leftist (ie the state is more important than the individual) and that Gandhi, believing in the supreme value of each individual, is a liberal leftist. While the former involves state-imposed arbitrary collectivism in the extreme top left, on the extreme bottom left is voluntary collectivism at regional level, with no state involved. Hundreds of such anarchist communities exisited in Spain during the civil war period

You can also put Pinochet, who was prepared to sanction mass killing for the sake of the free market, on the far right as well as in a hardcore authoritarian position. On the non-socialist side you can distinguish someone like Milton Friedman, who is anti-state for fiscal rather than social reasons, from Hitler, who wanted to make the state stronger, even if he wiped out half of humanity in the process.

The chart also makes clear that, despite popular perceptions, the opposite of fascism is not communism but anarchism (ie liberal socialism), and that the opposite of communism ( i.e. an entirely state-planned economy) is neo-liberalism (i.e. extreme deregulated economy)

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The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples social Darwinian right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing. On the other hand, the classical libertarian collectivism of anarcho-syndicalism ( libertarian socialism) belongs in the bottom left hand corner.

In our home page we demolished the myth that authoritarianism is necessarily "right wing", with the examples of Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot and Stalin. Similarly Hitler, on an economic scale, was not an extreme right-winger. His economic policies were broadly Keynesian, and to the left of some of today's Labour parties. If you could get Hitler and Stalin to sit down together and avoid economics, the two diehard authoritarians would find plenty of common ground.

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August 30th, 2011, 10:16 am
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Kind of surprised me a bit, but then again, as usual, some of the questions can be taken different ways....its all in how they're presented IMO

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August 30th, 2011, 10:17 am
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I can't do another one of these, mostly because I can never honestly answer the question without qualifying the anwer.

Like the race question, does my race have superior qualities? If one believes in evolution one can ONLY admit tha all races in general have certain attributes that are more common and more beneficial than other races. Doesn't mean we apply them individually, each person has their own strengths and weaknesses and it has nothing to do with race. But traits are passed down based on survival of the fittest and not every location on the earth is equal.

So how can I honestly answer that question with the given options? Without qualifying it I can be judged as anything but a racist. Everyone should get the same shot as anyone else regardless fo race. But when you pull together all the skills and attributes into bins, race being one of them, you get a statistical indication that certain traits are more common in one race than another.

So I've chosen not to take or answer questions with preconceived behind them. ;)

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August 30th, 2011, 10:35 am
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No real surprise here:
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August 30th, 2011, 1:10 pm
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http://politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.88&soc=-2.87

For those that want to make nice with the clicky. :-)

No real surprise for me.

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August 30th, 2011, 7:00 pm
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LionsFan4Life wrote:
http://politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.88&soc=-2.87

For those that want to make nice with the clicky. :-)

No real surprise for me.

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Thanks to whoever took the liberty of posting the graph for me. :D

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Could not take the test. Too many 'neutral or no opinion' answers. For instance the statement, "Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races."

I disagree with the premise, not the conclusion. There is nothing particularly superior about one race over another. I could have said, 'Strongly Disagree', but that would have implied that other races have superior qualities over my own, which would be an equally fallacious sentiment.

I hate stupid tests. They only test my BS tolerance.

FWIW I would probably grade somewhere around Thatcher.

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August 31st, 2011, 8:34 am
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LionsFan4Life wrote:
Thanks to whoever took the liberty of posting the graph for me. :D

You're welcome :wink:

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I'll let Sly place me on the map ;) I'm guessing I'm ending up somewhere around "stinking commies."

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Damn Stallion, how did you get there? I envision that as someone who herds unicorns while smoking dope and waiting for his government check to arrive. Just saying. :lol:

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not all that surprising....

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i didnt post mine as i was at work but mine was damn near dead center.

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These questions were definitely leaning one way more than the other but here's my results.

Couldn't get it to paste so I will describe it.

Looking at (0,0) I am located at (1,1.5) or up one from horizontal, to the right 1.5 from vertical. Sorry I couldn't paste.

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