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Pablo, bear with me for a minute. It's not like I'm saying that the Pope is a scum. He's not. However, he supports a socialist, government-centered ideology that I am vehemently opposed to. If that differs from your ideology, I have a left nut that needs to be appeased. Get to licking.

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First of all, I want to apologize to Pablo for asking him to lick my left nut. When I get drunk (and I was when I posted that), I get very blunt. Even though I'm intentionally politically incorrect, I tend to take it a step further when I've drank a few. For that, I'm sorry.

However, the same principles apply whether I'm sober or not. Why are the rich criticized for being "greedy" while working their butts off, while the parasites, doing nothing, collecting government (tax payer money) benefits are not? As a middle class tax payer, I'm disgusted by seeing most of my tax payer dollars go down the drain.

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December 16th, 2013, 7:17 am
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Pablo, bear with me for a minute. It's not like I'm saying that the Pope is a scum. He's not. However, he supports a socialist, government-centered ideology that I am vehemently opposed to. If that differs from your ideology, I have a left nut that needs to be appeased. Get to licking.


And here I thought your preferred the right. LOL. No worries Sly!

I am also frustrated by seeing so much waste of our taxes, however, let's keep in mind this is the world's Pope, not America's. He is from South America, sitting in Europe, both with some significant political and ideological differences than here in the USA. You are judging this pope from your right wing USA political agenda, I think you need to take a broader look to see what he is doing in context.

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When I get drunk (and I was when I posted that), I get very blunt.
Not the first time something like this has happened......

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December 16th, 2013, 10:13 am
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The Blaze wrote:
POPE FRANCIS RESPONDS TO MARXISM ALLEGATIONS
Dec. 15, 2013 12:46pm Oliver Darcy

Pope Francis denounced Marxism, but said he knew a lot of “good” people who adhere to the political ideology, in an interview published Sunday.

In an interview with Italian publication La Stampa, the pope dismissed allegations from some conservatives that he is sympathetic to such views, saying “the Marxist ideology is wrong.”

“But in my life I have met a lot of Marxists who are good people, so I do not feel offended,” the Pope, who was just named TIME’s “person of the year,” added.

“The only specific quote I used was the one regarding the ‘trickle-down theories’ which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and social inclusiveness in the world,” the Pope added.

“The promise was that when the glass was full, it would overflow, benefitting the poor,” he continued. “But what happens instead, is that when the glass is full, it magically gets bigger nothing ever comes out for the poor. This was the only reference to a specific theory. I was not, I repeat, speaking from a technical point of view but according to the Church’s social doctrine. This does not mean being a Marxist.”

Late last month, Pope Francis addressed what he said were some of the downfalls of “unfettered capitalism. Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh responded, saying he was “befuddled” by the “pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the Pope.”

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Not sure why, but it surprised me the amount of derp his previous comments generated. Hopefully this will clear it up for those that spread said derp...

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December 16th, 2013, 11:39 am
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You see it as Derp, but it's the truth. When times are good, you can look at those with an overabundance and judge them on how much they give to charities, how much time they devote to helping, etc.. But no one wants to call people out then. When times go rough for everyone, the blame is shifted to the system, and that we need government to take care of the poor, forcing everyone to give more in taxes to support them. Where's the piety in that?

The socialist and marxist systems have never done anything to help the poor, besides helping people stay poor. How do those systems stay popular? Because they allow people to remain in the system and the systems themselves benefit by having more poor in the system. When a system relies on goods from others to function, it's always going to end bad.

The North relied on the South's goods for it's industries. When the south decided it could get better prices by selling direct to Europe instead of going through the north, instead of innovating and trying to figure out a way to sustain itself, they tried to cut off the south's ability to sell except to them and that eventually led to the Civil War. Yes, ending slavery was a result, and while there were some that thought the morality was the drive behind it, the majority only sought to bring it down to kill the south's production in order to get them to fall in line.

States receive more funding based on how many poor they have in their cities. When you have social workers getting bonuses for signing up people for certain services, when cities are trying to give extra benefits for poor to move from their current poor situation into that cities poor situation, you know you're seeing a corrupt system that has no intention of curing poverty. Immigration reform is about adding more poor to the roles.

I am all for helping the poor and those that need assistance. We've had people stay with us that needed someplace to stay for a bit. I have friends that have difficult situations and I lend some cash here and there even though I don't have it. But poverty has become a lifestyle, not a situation your in. And any "system" that thinks that's a good thing and we should push for more of it, needs to go.

We will always have poor. There are always going to be people that are incapable of making it on their own and we should always be there to give them a hand. But those incapable can't and shouldn't be thrown in the same classification with those that are capable but choose not to try.


December 16th, 2013, 1:01 pm
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Blueskies is essentially correct in what he is saying.

People in this country, okay children in this country, do not go to bed hungry because there is an absence of food, or an ability to eat. They go to bed hungry because there is an absence of RESPONSIBILITY.

Since when are the poor ENTITLED to:

1. Video games/systems?
2. Television?
3. Smart Phones?
4. Alcohol?
5. Cigarettes?
6. Cable Television?
7. Air Conditioning?

These are just mere SAMPLES of inner city lifestyle choices made by people who live on the support of the Government system.

None of the above is a NEED that must be appeased in order for someone to survive, namely children. But instead these are choices, that parents, and children having children have made, brought about by a system designed to ASSIST with living expenses, not become a career.

Why would it be illegal, or unConstitutional, or inappropriate to have said system recipients work for what they need? How much infrastructure in this country needs to be rebuilt or remodeled, that could not be done by the sheer man power in existence today?

How many national parks, national monuments, bridges, roads, and parkways could have been built if we utilized the labor potential of the welfare system?

A few things would happen and ripple affects would carry outward:

1. Work would be done
2. People would be too tired from work to commit crimes brought on by idle time
3. needs would be met by having an EARNED wage, at a median wage scale for untrained labor, say $10.00 hr.
4. job skills and trade skills would be learned
5. Self esteem and self worth would be elivated by participating in something greater than themselves, and seeing it finished.

For example: if Welfart Recipients received $10.00/hr. for the purpose of cleaning up graffiti, and trash in Detroit alone, how much would that assist the city? I guarantee that the next time someone saw graffiti artists tagging something they just cleaned there would be some "self policing" that would happen. Detroit would glow with the shine of a cleaner city, and a population that is unskilled and unmotivated would suddenly have both, and the wages to do and live better to boot!

But instead, we do as we've always done and throw money at the problem, never addressing the source of the problem, thereby creating dependency.

I'll step off my soap box now

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December 16th, 2013, 1:12 pm
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Sorry, I saw this and had to respond:

[quote]States receive more funding based on how many poor they have in their cities. When you have social workers getting bonuses for signing up people for certain services, when cities are trying to give extra benefits for poor to move from their current poor situation into that cities poor situation, you know you're seeing a corrupt system that has no intention of curing poverty. Immigration reform is about adding more poor to the roles. [quote]

Case in point in Elkhart,

Elkhart Housing Authority had a woman with children who used the system to survive, and obtain a nursing license. Just before graduation she approached EHA thanking them for their assistance over the years, but she was not going to need them any longer. EHA replied, we will give you x amount of benefits and also increase it by y, if you will remain on the system.

How is that beneficial to the resident, and to the taxpayer? It's not and never can be.

One other point: When the government removed the Church as a primary source of assistance for feeding the poor, it removed a lot of ministry that was meeting the needs of people, and energizing the Church to be more effective, so it isn't that churches aren't effective, they are not ALLOWED to be effective, without MAJOR red tape. (know this from experience too!)

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TheRealWags wrote:
slybri19 wrote:
When I get drunk (and I was when I posted that), I get very blunt.
Not the first time something like this has happened......


And it won't be the last either. :cheers:

More importantly, I will vehemently oppose the expansion of government, no matter who proposes it. The Pope, the President. Doesn't matter to me. The federal government has grown well beyond it's constitutional limits and has proven to be inefficient and incompetent. Prove me wrong.

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