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I can't wait for the 24th when these people start talking about how they got the numbers wrong and give us a new end of times date.


September 21st, 2017, 12:25 pm
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rao wrote:
I can't wait for the 24th when these people start talking about how they got the numbers wrong and give us a new end of times date.


This is why Christians are not supposed to give dates. And I think it is convoluted to graft Nibiru into biblical prophecy.


September 21st, 2017, 2:24 pm
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BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
I can't wait for the 24th when these people start talking about how they got the numbers wrong and give us a new end of times date.


This is why Christians are not supposed to give dates. And I think it is convoluted to graft Nibiru into biblical prophecy.


Or how bout Christians just stop looking for the return of Christ and just enjoy the world they have been given. These end of times people are either the most ungrateful creatures ever, spending their time wishing for the end instead enjoying the world their god gave them or slime that is using religion for fame and/or monetary gain.


September 21st, 2017, 9:35 pm
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rao wrote:
BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
I can't wait for the 24th when these people start talking about how they got the numbers wrong and give us a new end of times date.


This is why Christians are not supposed to give dates. And I think it is convoluted to graft Nibiru into biblical prophecy.


Or how bout Christians just stop looking for the return of Christ and just enjoy the world they have been given. These end of times people are either the most ungrateful creatures ever, spending their time wishing for the end instead enjoying the world their god gave them or slime that is using religion for fame and/or monetary gain.


That is where you are wrong. JESUS himself, commanded us to look forward to his return. Because at his return, he will put an end to sin, pain, suffering, and every other bad things those don't cover. That is why Christians long for the end of days.We are commanded to know the times in which we live. That is why we get so many people trying to find the date of Christ's return. Even though JESUS himself doesn't know the date of his return. Only GOD the father knows. Anyone claiming to know the exact day, is arrogantly proclaiming to know more than JESUS. We can only know the season of his return. And that, I fully believe that we are in the season.


September 21st, 2017, 10:39 pm
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Let's just assume that your interpretation of Christianity is correct.

Jesus died about 2000 years ago.

That's about 80 human generations.

I think you have to be really arrogant to think you are in the generation that's going to be around when he returns.


September 22nd, 2017, 4:14 am
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Blueskies wrote:
Let's just assume that your interpretation of Christianity is correct.

Jesus died about 2000 years ago.

That's about 80 human generations.

I think you have to be really arrogant to think you are in the generation that's going to be around when he returns.


Sounds more like you just wish the Bible didn't exist.


September 22nd, 2017, 6:32 am
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BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
BillySims wrote:
rao wrote:
I can't wait for the 24th when these people start talking about how they got the numbers wrong and give us a new end of times date.


This is why Christians are not supposed to give dates. And I think it is convoluted to graft Nibiru into biblical prophecy.


Or how bout Christians just stop looking for the return of Christ and just enjoy the world they have been given. These end of times people are either the most ungrateful creatures ever, spending their time wishing for the end instead enjoying the world their god gave them or slime that is using religion for fame and/or monetary gain.


That is where you are wrong. JESUS himself, commanded us to look forward to his return. Because at his return, he will put an end to sin, pain, suffering, and every other bad things those don't cover. That is why Christians long for the end of days.We are commanded to know the times in which we live. That is why we get so many people trying to find the date of Christ's return. Even though JESUS himself doesn't know the date of his return. Only GOD the father knows. Anyone claiming to know the exact day, is arrogantly proclaiming to know more than JESUS. We can only know the season of his return. And that, I fully believe that we are in the season.


Jesus did know the general time frame because the told his followers his return would take place in their lifetimes (or before their deaths).

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

He makes similar predictions in five other places in the Bible - Mark 9:1, Mark 13:30, Matt 24:34, Luke 9:27, and Luke 21:32.

According to reputable historians (like Charles Freeman), early Christians expected to to see Jesus within his generation and the fact it didn't occur was a major surprise.

So what can we conclude...either Jesus himself was wrong, misquoted 6 times, or the Bible isn't real. In reality, the Bible has so many cross reference issues like this the answer is quite simple. Man clearly has a need for a "God" since he has invented over 3,000 of them so far. If you assume that just one of these is the right one, the statistical chances of Jesus being it are 0.03%. Bottom line, you can keep hoping for him to come back like he said he would but you have to then ignore "when" he said he would return.

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BillySims wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Let's just assume that your interpretation of Christianity is correct.

Jesus died about 2000 years ago.

That's about 80 human generations.

I think you have to be really arrogant to think you are in the generation that's going to be around when he returns.


Sounds more like you just wish the Bible didn't exist.


To be fair -- yeah. I do.

But that's not my point.

My point is: There have been literally billions of Christians that have been born and died in the last 2000 years. What makes you so special or so lucky to be born in the time of Jesus's second coming? Why weren't all those other Christians just as lucky or as special as you?


September 25th, 2017, 2:44 am
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Blueskies wrote:
BillySims wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Let's just assume that your interpretation of Christianity is correct.

Jesus died about 2000 years ago.

That's about 80 human generations.

I think you have to be really arrogant to think you are in the generation that's going to be around when he returns.


Sounds more like you just wish the Bible didn't exist.


To be fair -- yeah. I do.

But that's not my point.

My point is: There have been literally billions of Christians that have been born and died in the last 2000 years. What makes you so special or so lucky to be born in the time of Jesus's second coming? Why weren't all those other Christians just as lucky or as special as you?


Because not a single one of all those previous generations had the coming together of all the prophetic signs at the same time like we do today. Every single prophetic sign is in place right now. Never before has this been true.


September 25th, 2017, 10:43 am
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Washington Post wrote:
The man who had people worried about a Sept. 23 apocalypse is peddling a new doomsday date

The man whose biblical doomsday claim had people worried about Sept. 23, 2017, is not backing down.

The world did not end over the weekend, and David Meade, a self-described “specialist in research and investigations,” is saying that’s exactly what he had expected. Now, he is focusing on another date, Oct. 15, 2017, which he claims is the beginning of the world’s destruction.

It is “the most important date of this century or millennium,” Meade wrote on his website. The action starts that day, he claimed, when the world will enter what’s called a seven-year tribulation period, a fairly widespread evangelical belief that for seven years, catastrophic events would wreak havoc on Earth.

“Hold on and watch — wait until the middle of October and I don’t believe you’ll be disappointed,” Meade wrote, before going on to promote his book, which he claims has all the details.

“You don’t have long to read it,” he added.

Meade has earned a fair amount of publicity online for peddling a widely debunked claim that a planet called Nibiru is on a course toward Earth. When it passes the planet later this year, Meade said, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves and other catastrophes would ensue. Other predictions claimed that Nibiru would collide with Earth on Sept. 23, though Meade clarified that he never said that would happen.

NASA has repeatedly dismissed such claims as a hoax.

“The planet in question, Nibiru, doesn’t exist, so there will be no collision … the story of Nibiru has been around for years (as has the ‘days of darkness’ tale) and is periodically recycled into new apocalyptic fables,” NASA said on its website.

Meade previously had drawn attention to Sept. 23, saying that a constellation — a sign prophesied in the Book of Revelation — would reveal itself in the skies over Jerusalem, signaling the beginning of the end of the world as we know it. He claimed on his website that there were “major signs” in the skies that day, though he did not elaborate.

Robert Joustra, an international studies professor at Redeemer University College in Ontario, said that those who engage in apocalyptic claims often rely on mainstream information, such as the Book of Revelation. But many also find obscure references in the Bible to make predictions.

Meade, for instance, said he bases his predictions on biblical verses and numerical codes. A short biography on a website called Planet X News says Meade enjoys “relating science and the Bible,” and he believes Nibiru, which he also calls Planet X, is a “perfect marriage of the two.”

Ed Stetzer, a professor and executive director of Wheaton College’s Billy Graham Center for Evangelism, said earlier that while numbers do have a significance in the Bible, they shouldn’t be used to make sweeping predictions about planetary motions and the fate of Earth.

“We do believe some odd things,” Stetzer told The Washington Post last week. “That Jesus is coming back, that he will set things right in the world, and no one knows the day or the hour.”

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Pablo wrote:
Washington Post wrote:
The man who had people worried about a Sept. 23 apocalypse is peddling a new doomsday date

The man whose biblical doomsday claim had people worried about Sept. 23, 2017, is not backing down.

The world did not end over the weekend, and David Meade, a self-described “specialist in research and investigations,” is saying that’s exactly what he had expected. Now, he is focusing on another date, Oct. 15, 2017, which he claims is the beginning of the world’s destruction.

It is “the most important date of this century or millennium,” Meade wrote on his website. The action starts that day, he claimed, when the world will enter what’s called a seven-year tribulation period, a fairly widespread evangelical belief that for seven years, catastrophic events would wreak havoc on Earth.

“Hold on and watch — wait until the middle of October and I don’t believe you’ll be disappointed,” Meade wrote, before going on to promote his book, which he claims has all the details.

“You don’t have long to read it,” he added.

Meade has earned a fair amount of publicity online for peddling a widely debunked claim that a planet called Nibiru is on a course toward Earth. When it passes the planet later this year, Meade said, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves and other catastrophes would ensue. Other predictions claimed that Nibiru would collide with Earth on Sept. 23, though Meade clarified that he never said that would happen.

NASA has repeatedly dismissed such claims as a hoax.

“The planet in question, Nibiru, doesn’t exist, so there will be no collision … the story of Nibiru has been around for years (as has the ‘days of darkness’ tale) and is periodically recycled into new apocalyptic fables,” NASA said on its website.

Meade previously had drawn attention to Sept. 23, saying that a constellation — a sign prophesied in the Book of Revelation — would reveal itself in the skies over Jerusalem, signaling the beginning of the end of the world as we know it. He claimed on his website that there were “major signs” in the skies that day, though he did not elaborate.

Robert Joustra, an international studies professor at Redeemer University College in Ontario, said that those who engage in apocalyptic claims often rely on mainstream information, such as the Book of Revelation. But many also find obscure references in the Bible to make predictions.

Meade, for instance, said he bases his predictions on biblical verses and numerical codes. A short biography on a website called Planet X News says Meade enjoys “relating science and the Bible,” and he believes Nibiru, which he also calls Planet X, is a “perfect marriage of the two.”

Ed Stetzer, a professor and executive director of Wheaton College’s Billy Graham Center for Evangelism, said earlier that while numbers do have a significance in the Bible, they shouldn’t be used to make sweeping predictions about planetary motions and the fate of Earth.

“We do believe some odd things,” Stetzer told The Washington Post last week. “That Jesus is coming back, that he will set things right in the world, and no one knows the day or the hour.”


It's sad how easy it is to exploit people's fear to get rich.


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Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.


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