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Those votes you are referring to are lower density rural America. It is the less-educated white vote. It is also a voting block that will mean less and less going forward if you look at the changing demographics in this country. Living in Texas, a long time historical red state - I can see this changing especially with the quickly growing Hispanic vote.


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This is the 18 - 34 voting bloc.

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November 9th, 2016, 4:12 pm
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The majority of the country that voted. Yes, only about 40% of the population voted. A lot of people voted that didn't vote before, and a lot of people stayed home. Even with the popular vote, Hillary got 10 million less votes than Obama did in 2008 and 6 million less than he did in 2012.

Millennials will always lean left. They have no life experience and especially the generation now only has seen life through the poor Bush years and Obama. If Trump delivers, you'll see more crossover. The old saying if you're young and not a liberal, you have no heart, if you're old and not a conservative, you have no brain comes to mind.

Obama was an outsider? He was groomed in the Chicago political system.

And the hate groups won't gain momentum. The only reason they were given a stage was because the left needed them to attack Trump. They've been ignored publicly for decades and no one takes them serious. Do racist elements exist in our population? Of course, and they need to be called out. But they aren't even close to a significant number anymore.


November 9th, 2016, 4:27 pm
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Except Trump is a liberal.


November 9th, 2016, 5:23 pm
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Liberal, not leftist. The left abandoned liberalism long ago and the only freedom and choice they stand for or offer is abortion. Everything else is their viewpoint or else. He's a moderate in today's world and he'll get DC to come together, because there's no choice. Unlike Obama, where he had full control and chose to leave the Right out of discussions, I believe he wants everyone to work together for the best deals, so the door will be open.


November 9th, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Do racist elements exist in our population? Of course, and they need to be called out. But they aren't even close to a significant number anymore.

They control the state legislature in North Carolina. I pointed it out.

You seemed less keen on calling them out. :(


November 9th, 2016, 7:16 pm
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slybri19 wrote:
I told you so.

And UK Lion, why don't you drop to your knees and suck on a Muslim you know what? Some people are just too stupid to live.



how is there a future in this type of rhetoric? its a shame that you feel this type of speech somehow contributes positively to a political movement.


November 10th, 2016, 1:03 am
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UK Lion wrote:
njroar wrote:
Do racist elements exist in our population? Of course, and they need to be called out. But they aren't even close to a significant number anymore.

They control the state legislature in North Carolina. I pointed it out.

You seemed less keen on calling them out. :(


Voter ID laws aren't racist. They're constantly talked about like they are, but saying only one group is unable to get IDs, when ID is necessary for even those on welfare is just disingenuous. The fall back is that is disproportionally effects only that group but i've yet to see a judge back that claim up. It's a bit racist to say that minorities are unable to acquire a photo id, if you ask me.

But all individuals who are proven to be racist or go too far, whether citizen or politician should be called out and held to proper consequences.


November 10th, 2016, 1:11 am
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Did you read the link nj?

The state government obtained data on voting methods by race, then passed legislation deliberately targeting voting methods used more by blacks.


November 10th, 2016, 5:13 am
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UK Lion wrote:
Did you read the link nj?

The state government obtained data on voting methods by race, then passed legislation deliberately targeting voting methods used more by blacks.


There was no link, only a quote. Do you have the url, so i can see the whole story in context?


November 10th, 2016, 10:11 am
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Sorry NJ, some links below.

Story on it: http://www.vox.com/2016/7/29/12328550/n ... aws-racist

Full judgment: http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/7-29-16% ... v%20NC.pdf

It's the combination of requesting the voting by race data, and then after reviewing that proposing changes to voting rules that they knew (from the data they had been given) would result in a suppression of the black vote.

This led to the court finding that they had acted discriminatorily intentionally.


November 10th, 2016, 12:55 pm
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I read the official court documents, not the article since the legal argument is sounder than left slanted media. I'll read it after I post my thoughts.

That court found that outcome, but earlier courts didn't, so it's disputed. Changing voting laws that favor democrats isn't a new thing, and dems change voting laws to favor them all the time. Gerrymandering districts was started by democrats, and only recently started being successful by the GOP, and now suddenly it's a violation.

That court also is using a recent trend to try to justify its decisions. They say the current rules made blacks only vote by 41% in 2000, when dem turn out nationally was low (same as 2016), compared to 2008 and 2012 when Obama was voted for in record numbers due to being the first Black President. It's a faulty narrative to say that the original policies were the reason for the low turnout, especially now since we can see that even with the current system, the turnout was as low as 2000, and they actually voted 1% higher for him over Romney or McCain. While I understand why the left leaning court came to its conclusions, the data doesn't back it up.

Any smart person that is going to look at election trends is going to get data broken up by all aspects of the electorate including race. Just because one race uses a specific aspect more and that aspect is targeted, doesn't mean that it's due to race. If its party wide and that's the target, just because one race was seen as using t more doesn't mean that it wasn't right to target that aspect. Cutting down early voting from two weeks to a week and a half isn't the same as eliminating the ability to early vote. Saying in one argument that blacks can't afford a DMV id, then saying removing auto-registering via DMV affects blacks more, is kind of contradictory.

I have no insight into the minds or hearts of the legislature of NC, so I can't comment on their intent. It may very well be racist and would be wrong. But as you can see, it's not black and white. I can see how the argument can be made that it was racial and discriminatory, but when looking at the arguments used and dataset used, it's an opinion based ruling, not an evidenced one. And of course that's just my opinion. It's no different than those that on election night started saying that Trump won because racists voted in force and it was a "whitelash," but after the looking at the data, many of the whites that voted for Trump, voted for Obama and a lot of those that voted for Obama simply didn't show up this election. Women weren't voting Hillary in the margins predicted, etc..

It's too easy to blanket blame everything on one thing, such as racism, when there are legitimate concerns with election practices that have nothing to do with race. It's the goto response by the left and i'm bored with it. It's used to ignore or avoid real discussion and stop the process of fixing issues.


November 10th, 2016, 1:59 pm
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First off, whomever said that I was in love with a Muslim is wrong. I said that I felt like a Muslim was like a daughter to me. Big difference.

As for Trump winning, as I predicted, suck it up buttercups. This is the angriest I've seen Democrats since Republicans freed the slaves. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Isn't it amazing how Democrats want unity when they win, yet want division when they lose? It's time to stomp the socialist/communists out of government now. Wake up!

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As a side note, doesn't it tell you something that there isn't a Hillary for Prez post on this board? Just saying,.

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Whoopsie, looks like you got a Nazi sympathiser for a president. :oops:

Between friend, I have to say it's not a great look ...


August 16th, 2017, 12:57 pm
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He's spoken against Nazi's since the 80's. The media keeps trying to throw it on him, but it's not working. Except of course those that just believe everything the press says. No matter how many times he denounces them, it's never enough.

He spoke against the nazi's and antifa, but because the main stream ignores antifa, they found that unacceptable. How could the Black Bloc, who violently attack white, black, and brown people if you're against their facist ideology be the same as Nazis? Well, they are the same. They're both hate-filled groups. Both need to be denounced. But because the left has been trying to say ALL on the right are Nazi's and Racists, it's proposterous for anyone to call out the hypocrisy.


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