Was it Chicago or another team that last season decided to single cover Calvin and he torched them in the first half, then in the second half suddenly CJ was constantly double or triple covered?

Single coverage takes CJ out of the game? Tell you what, I'm with him on this one...I'd LOVE to see opposing teams try that all the time.

I'll get blasted for it, but IMO CJ is soft.

His Mom literally yelled at him for getting hurt his rookie year. "It's a business" to him and his family. He doesn't play for the love of the game, he's afraid of getting hurt, he's not physical, he gets over-powered by guys much smaller than he is, and he rarely goes over the middle.

I'd take L. Fitz or Andre Johnson over CJ any day.

It's a business to every single player in the NFL, regardless of their love of the game.

I wouldn't say that. If that's true then Payton Manning isnt' a good business person, neither is Jerry Rice. Those two, among others, have taken pay cuts to benefit their team. You can't even argue that Jerry Rice could have made more by taking his paycut, as he was at the end of his career, didn't really receive any more endorsement deals out of it, and never made the money back later. I think Drew Breese did something similar, but I could be wrong.

For Barry Sanders it wasn't a business. If it were he would have finished his lucrative contract. Barry played because he loved the game, and quit when his love for the game was taken from him by his inept team.

Some people play it because they love it. Some people play it to grab a fat paycheck. CJ is the latter, period.

It's not a binary situation. You can love it and still mind the business aspect. I love the field I work in, but I wouldn't show up to work if I weren't getting paid.

Those examples you gave of people taking paycuts were to benefit the team, presumably with the understanding that more team success would bring more individual success.

WOW!! I was surprized by this...

Those stats are surprising and a lot of fans believe CJ has been left out of the game plan a lot, at least for the first couple of years.

Nice to have ONE top pick WR pan out in a decade

And honestly, did these WR have as many different QB's? I digress, Calvin's play speaks for itself. Lets all just see what happens if Stafford and Johnson are healthy for one season. That would give fuel to either side of the debate when the dust settles.

I don't think the different QB argument even works. When your a top WR you should be able to catch balls from anyone and most young and bad quarterbacks force the ball to their top playmaker. Of course that gets them in trouble but atleast the WR gets theirs.

I know I've said it a million times and someone even said it wasn't true, but guess we don't watch the same games. THE LIONS QUARTERBACKS DO NOT THROW TO CALVIN!!! Some stretches of games he does not get a single target the entire quarter. I believe one game last year they didn't even throw to him an entire half. Throw the ball up there if there is 11 guys on him, there is not a single excuse to throw the ball to Calvin ZERO times in a half.

This shows just what a freak Moss was, the most physically gifted WR I have ever seen. That said, throw in all the other stuff and Rice is still the GOAT.

I thought I'd look up the same stats for Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson's first four years, since the three guys are so frequently compared:

Andre Johnson -- 311 rec., 3,953 yards, 12.7 avg., 16 TDs
Larry Fitzgerald -- 330 rec., 4,544 yards, 13.7 avg., 34 TDs
Calvin Johnson -- 270 rec., 4,191 yards, 14.5 avg., 33 TDs

At least statistically speaking, these three belong in the same conversation. All three of them entered the league as high first round picks and none of them had good/consistent QB play during that time, yet still managed to dominate.

Nice little mention on CJ and fantasy value (mostly about CJ):

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... 1_32qLions

wow what a soft list of players

If anyone caught Countdown's piece on the Lions tonight, you would have heard Chris Carter completely backtrack and say that Calvin must be double teamed. What a joke!

What do you expect from Vikings with only 1 extremely bushy eyebrow?