lol. F*** the Bears.

... and you'll be just one of many complaining when someone does that to your guy & he gets IR'd.

This.

+1

I don't have much of a problem with "dirty" play, as long as they don't take it too far. That's a very fine line and the players must learn how to push the envelope without crossing that line. They don't want to take unnecessary penalties, but at the same time, they should still intimidate their opponents. That's a fair tactic IMO and I don't want to see them dial that aspect of it down at all.

Nailed it!

I just want them to win.

Yeah - OK, I can definitely agree with this. Intimidation is definitely an important part of football. My personal opinion is the Lions are already a bit beyond the line & it does need to be dialed back ... to (for example) super-hard hits & blasting people all the way through the whistle... and then losing the intentional helmet-ripping thing.

I agree but it's gotten to the point where people were calling us dirty for "Tebowing"? The Lions are now held to a different standard. I personally, don't think the Peppers hit on CJ was dirty because the ball was up by his neck and causing the fumble is the goal but had that been Suh who mad that exact same play, people would cry bloody murder. But as far as dialing it down...I guess when a team everyone called p**sy for 50 yeras, starts to finally dish it out it's tough to swallow. The Steelers have played the same way for almost 40 years but they've been so good for so long that it's just "Steeler football". But no, not these Honolulu Blue sisters of the poor who everyone has accepted as lovable losers.

Epic Win

+2

OK - I see your point. But the key is still playing tough/quasidirty while playing well & winning. If you're losing while doing that, people don't see it the same way. They'll just trash the goodwill, point at the scoreboard & start saying "hate-able losers".

I.E., I don't understand why you keep calling us losers. We have the same record as your Bears.

The Lions were getting called dirty in the pre-season, after Suh nearly tore the head off of Dalton. And for the record, I thought it was a ridiculously stupid play by Suh. However, Suh has been nailed with some personal fouls that were absolute garbage, but that's the price when you build a questionable reputation.

This isn't about the Lions being called a dirty team because of them losing or winning. The snowball has started rolling, and it won't stop until they can do something to take the eye off of that aspect of their play. Multiple personal fouls in each game isn't going to help. I like the fact that the Lions have become an aggressive team that isn't backing down or giving up. But I dislike the reputation they're getting, and in reality some of it is deserved.

Like win?