OK, let's get a couple things understood......

1. Mikel LeShoure is not two years away from recovery. Plenty of other players have returned in a single season after having a rupture of their Achille's. So to state that the Lions shouldn't expect him to return to form, or that he's that far away from playing again is foolish.

2. LeShoure will return next season. Great. We are talking about THIS season folks. Jerome Harrison is basically a waste of a roster spot right now. Pretty much, so is Maurice Morris so far. However, of those two I'd keep Morris and dump Harrison if we were to go after Tolbert. It would be nice to have a big back that can grind out tough yards, or make people miss.

3. Trading Scheff is out of the question, I agree. But It wouldn't bother me if the Lions traded a low round pick and someone like Andre Fluellen to San Diego, since they are looking for depth at their 34 DE spot, and he'd fit the bill pretty well. Yes, we'd be down one DT/DE.....so? Four of each is enough on game day.

OK, let's get a couple things understood......

1. Mikel LeShoure is not two years away from recovery. Plenty of other players have returned in a single season after having a rupture of their Achille's. So to state that the Lions shouldn't expect him to return to form, or that he's that far away from playing again is foolish.

2. LeShoure will return next season. Great. We are talking about THIS season folks. Jerome Harrison is basically a waste of a roster spot right now. Pretty much, so is Maurice Morris so far. However, of those two I'd keep Morris and dump Harrison if we were to go after Tolbert. It would be nice to have a big back that can grind out tough yards, or make people miss.

3. Trading Scheff is out of the question, I agree. But It wouldn't bother me if the Lions traded a low round pick and someone like Andre Fluellen to San Diego, since they are looking for depth at their 34 DE spot, and he'd fit the bill pretty well. Yes, we'd be down one DT/DE.....so? Four of each is enough on game day.

I agree that trading Scheff is out of the question. Not only does it limit what we can do on offense, but if Pett gets hurt we'd really be effed. That said, I'd be willing to part with Flu, a late round pick and Harrison to get Torrain, even if it is just for this year. If he lights it up, great, extend him and trade/deal with Leshoure. If Torrain doesn't work out, there's the door, thanks for the help. I realize a late round pick and a DT is a lot to "rent" a player for a season, but if Torrain is the difference maker that helps us grind out tough yards and close games, make it happen... I'd love to see us in the playoffs this year, even if it costs us a player and a late pick.

I think it's all a moot point now, as the trading deadline is about to pass, or already has.....

ESPN is suggesting that the Eagles would send us, CB Asante Samuel for a 2nd
rd. pick.

While I like Samuel, I don't like the 2. Any ideas?

I think they are definitely hurting if Best is out for a significant length of time, but I wouldn't bet the farm for Tolbert at this point. I think San Diego would be foolish to trade him away at this point anyway. Hillis would be interesting since he's mad at the Browns, but he's got hamstring issues right now and he hasn't been as effective this year. In any case I don't think you throw LeShore on the scrap heap prematurely.