No he's not. If both guys push and shove it technically would be PI on both guys. I've seen it called once or twice.

Regardless, they showed slow motion replays where you can see Burleson extending his arms to push. That gets called almost every time.

Agreed. Completely unacceptable behavior and the coach has to address it. As Herm Edwards says, you're either coaching it, or allowing it. Neither is acceptable.

Another win-able game and our players can't keep their heads in the game.

Penalties and injuries are killing us!

These guys are really starting to piss me off with the stupid sh!t.

UN-FREAKIN BELIEVABLE!

its getting really f***in old

The Lions are getting a reputation around the League for being hot heads, they will not get any calls from the ref's this year, maybe next year they can get coached better or start cutting some of these guys that can't learn. They are 2-3 yrs away from getting into the playoffs, when will they learn, maybe they are not bright enough to understand you cannot push an official in the chest because he flags you. Week after week we see the same dumb penalties called on them, it seems to be spreading from player to player, Logan, Young this week who will it be next week, you do not see Backus or Raiola take stupid 15 yd penalties.

I can't believe it was this close with garbage safeties and wright playing like complete crap and Houston out.

Who is at fault for these stupid plays, over 100 yrds in penalties. Last week the same the week before the same. They are not coached plain and simple. Either that or the players we have have brain freezes and just cannot be coached.

Wow, tell us what else you see at the practices, since you're apparently there!

Yeah one play he actually pushed off. One of them his hands were in front of him on the back of the defender and he did not push and it was called. The other one the defender was holding him and he pushed his arms off him which should have been 5 yards for defensive holding or at worst PI on both players.

It does not take a person with brains you obviously lack any to know that they are not coached. I will ignore anything you post in the future.

Agree the mental mistakes by our young Lions must stop. I would expect they will as this team grows and matures. Young's was a stupid rookie mistake. Pettigrew was retaliating for the flagrant defensive overplay that the official didn't call, and then lost his cool and shoved the zebra, when he intervened. Logans was totally inexcusable. The Lions coaching staff doesn't encourage this immature play. You could practically see the smoke rolling out of Schwartz's ears over the constant ineptitude of his team to stay focused and just play.

But who cares what " Herm Edwards says "

Notice he's a mouthpiece on a TV show, and hasn't been employed by a team for a while now. Wonder why that is? I rank his opinions right up there with Millen's.

can you please ignore my posts as well?

The reason the Lions lost can be broke down into two words: stupid penalties. Until they can fix that, they neither deserve nor belong in the playoffs.

There were a lot of disagreeable calls but the Lions committed plenty of boneheaded penalties and absolutely deserved to lose tonight. Every team is victimized by officiating from time to time but you can't blame the referees for bad officiating when you make so many stupid, obvious errors. Collinsworth hit the nail on the head--you'd think the team would have learned a lesson from Suh. Apparently not.

A few bright spots: Stafford was lights out. If there hadn't been so many drive-killing penalties, the game could have been close. Kevin Smith ran hard--I hope he can stay healthy one of these days. Brees did what he always does, but the defense held up better than I thought they would considering that Suh and half the secondary was missing.



Nailed it. If they can't clean it up, they have no business in the playoffs.

Schwartz summed it up when talking about Suh's penalty--between the snap and whistle, most penalties are excusable. It's the pre- and post-snap ones that are the killers. I don't believe Schwartz and co. are coaching/ignoring that. My concern is that those penalties are obviously affecting how the refs call pretty much everything.