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 Megatron threatens single-season receiving yardage record 

Will he break Jerry Rice's record this year?
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 Megatron threatens single-season receiving yardage record 
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The point is - The NFL record for reception yardage all time will read -

Calvin Johnson. How many yards is the only question to be answered.

Interesting to note several other records that I don't know if anyone is aware of

Most receptions in a season by a Detroit Lion
Currently Herman Moore with 123, Calvin Johnson currently has 117

Stafford needs 113 yards to pass Scott Mitchell and move to second on the all time passing yards list.

Stafford now leads the lions all time with 37 completions against Atlanta. Charlie Batch held the record with 36 since 01'

Stafford now leads the lions all time with 1090 completions. Bobby Layne held the record with 1,074 since 1958.

Stafford and Drew Brees are on pace to become the only qb's ever to throw back to back 5,000 yard seasons.

I can't find the stat, but I think they broke the all time record for team yards in a season too.

Craziest thing if you look at STATS - the Lions killed it this year in a lot of areas outgaining almost every opponent. The biggest disappointment this year was the lack of discipline.

Congrats to Calvin Johnson

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It was nice to see CJ break the record. Congrats to him!

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Ferris wrote:
The point is - The NFL record for reception yardage all time will read -

Calvin Johnson. How many yards is the only question to be answered.

Interesting to note several other records that I don't know if anyone is aware of

Most receptions in a season by a Detroit Lion
Currently Herman Moore with 123, Calvin Johnson currently has 117

Stafford needs 113 yards to pass Scott Mitchell and move to second on the all time passing yards list.

Stafford now leads the lions all time with 37 completions against Atlanta. Charlie Batch held the record with 36 since 01'

Stafford now leads the lions all time with 1090 completions. Bobby Layne held the record with 1,074 since 1958.

Stafford and Drew Brees are on pace to become the only qb's ever to throw back to back 5,000 yard seasons.

I can't find the stat, but I think they broke the all time record for team yards in a season too.

Craziest thing if you look at STATS - the Lions killed it this year in a lot of areas outgaining almost every opponent. The biggest disappointment this year was the lack of discipline.

Congrats to Calvin Johnson



I think Herman's single season reception record is 122, but I could be wrong. I think the all time NFL record for the same is held by Jerry Rice, and CJ will likely break that too.

That said, I still feel the record(s) are tainted by going 4-12, and the manner in which we're doing it. At least Drew Breese wins games.


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Garbage time? More like garbage argument:

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The one bright spot in Detroit's loss to Atlanta on Saturday night was the record-setting performance from Calvin Johnson. Megatron caught 11 passes for 225 yards, and in doing so, he erased Jerry Rice's 17-year-old record for most receiving yards in one season. With 1,892 receiving yards under his belt, Johnson would almost surely become the first receiver in league history to pick up 2,000 receiving yards in a single season by producing his ninth consecutive 100-yard game on Sunday against the Bears. After the record was set, though, the discussion started to shift toward another topic: Is it fair for Megatron to get so much of his yardage in the proverbial "garbage time," when yards aren't anywhere near as meaningful as they are in closer games?

I don't think that's the case, but it depends on what you define "garbage time" to be. My initial conception of garbage time was as those plays when a team trails by more than two touchdowns at any point during the game. If that's your definition, Calvin Johnson has almost assuredly not benefited from garbage time. Through the first 15 weeks of the year, Megatron had just 104 receiving yards while his team was down by 15 or more points, which put him below dozens of other NFL receivers. He had 62 such yards on Saturday night, bringing his total to 166 yards, but that leaves him no higher than 12th among NFL receivers this year. Just 8.7 percent of his yardage has come down 15 points or more, which is actually below what you might expect: The average receiver, through 15 weeks, gained 11.8 percent of his receiving yardage while trailing by 15 points or more.

What if we change the definition of garbage time, though? Let's say that garbage time is any point in the fourth quarter at which your team trails by more than one touchdown. By that definition, Calvin Johnson leads the league in garbage-time receiving, and it isn't close: He has 416 receiving yards in that situation this year, and only Brandon Myers of the Raiders is approaching 300 yards in the same split. Solve for x and you can gather that Calvin Johnson has gotten a huge chunk of his yardage, 319 yards, this year in the fourth quarter while his team was down by eight to 14 points.

Was that yardage meaningful? I'll let you decide. Those 319 yards including the following plays of 20 yards or more, sorted by yards gained:

A 37-yard gain with the Lions down 16-6 and 13:08 to go against the Eagles in a game the Lions eventually won
A 30-yard gain with the Lions down 24-10 and 9:26 to go against the Cardinals in a game the Lions would lose 38-10
A 26-yard gain with the Lions down 20-9 and 14:00 to go against the 49ers in a game the Lions would lose 29-17
A 25-yard gain with the Lions down 24-10 and 11:59 to go against the Vikings in a game the Lions would lose 34-24, but on a play that brought them down to the 2-yard line
A 22-yard gain with the Lions down 41-27 and 0:55 to go against the Titans in a game that the Lions would memorably tie up with two scores in the final minute and send to overtime before losing, 44-41
A 20-yard gain with 1:08 left in that same game
A 20-yard gain with the Lions down 16-6 and 10:56 to go against the Eagles in a game the Lions would win 26-23 in overtime, on a play that brought Detroit to the 1-yard line
A 20-yard gain in the aforementioned Vikings game with 8:06 left and a 31-17 deficit, but one where Johnson fumbled the ball away to Minnesota
Those eight plays count for an even 200 yards, or close to two-thirds of the yardage we would consider to be otherwise meaningless stat padding from Megatron. Well, two of those plays came in games the Lions actually ended up winning, two more came in games that produced a comeback and overtime, a fifth came with nearly the entire quarter to go in an 11-point game, and a sixth moved the Lions to the 2-yard line for a score that came on the next play, putting the Vikings down seven with 11:34 to go. The other two might not even qualify as garbage time, either. The case for Johnson padding his stats in garbage time there, even with his league-leading yardage total, is specious.

That's the problem with making claims of stat-padding in garbage time: I suppose you can make "garbage time" mean anything you like, and eventually, you'll probably come to some sort of split that tells the story you want to tell. You could make that argument about the two definitions I proposed above, and I suspect that somebody could eventually contort the play-by-play logs into some gerrymandered fit to prove the point about Johnson. By my definitions of the concept, though, I don't see any evidence that Johnson is unfairly accruing meaningless numbers.

Of course, the flip side of this argument is that Rice wasn't picking up every single one of his yards against the league's best defense in the fourth quarter of tied games, either. I don't have the play-by-play data for that year, but there are other arguments you can make regarding Rice's total. For one, Rice's starting quarterbacks were Steve Young (for 11 games) and Elvis Grbac; that's a sight better than the sidearming wizardry of Matthew Stafford.

Furthermore, Rice's big year came in 1995, a season that had a disproportionately high number of ridiculous yardage totals from top receivers. Even after Megatron's big year, three of the top seven receiving yardage totals in NFL history came from the 1995 campaign. It was Rice's best yardage total by a wide margin, something that was even more true for Isaac Bruce (1,781 receiving yards) and Herman Moore (1,686 receiving yards), both of whom failed to hit those lofty heights again. That seems like a far more damning quirk than whatever Johnson's done late in games.

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Post Re: Megatron threatens single-season receiving yardage recor
The receptions record is 143 (set in 2002) by Marvin Harrison. Herman Moore held the record at 123 (set in 1995). In that same season Jerry Rice has 122 catches as did Chris Carter. Carter had set the record at 122 a season earlier (1994).

Sorry for the rant of facts, but pro football reference is a great site.

So anyway, unless Calvin gets 27 catches on Sunday, he won't get the receptions record.


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The receptions record is 143 (set in 2002) by Marvin Harrison. Herman Moore held the record at 123 (set in 1995). In that same season Jerry Rice has 122 catches as did Chris Carter. Carter had set the record at 122 a season earlier (1994).

Sorry for the rant of facts, but pro football reference is a great site.

So anyway, unless Calvin gets 27 catches on Sunday, he won't get the receptions record.


That's not going to happen, I was just referring to the Detroit Lion record, I used this as the guide...


http://www.detroitlions.com/team/histor ... cords.html


But calvin johnson with a 27 reception, 310 yard game would be a nice note to go out on.

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Ferris wrote:
inheritedlionsfan wrote:
The receptions record is 143 (set in 2002) by Marvin Harrison. Herman Moore held the record at 123 (set in 1995). In that same season Jerry Rice has 122 catches as did Chris Carter. Carter had set the record at 122 a season earlier (1994).

Sorry for the rant of facts, but pro football reference is a great site.

So anyway, unless Calvin gets 27 catches on Sunday, he won't get the receptions record.


That's not going to happen, I was just referring to the Detroit Lion record, I used this as the guide...


http://www.detroitlions.com/team/histor ... cords.html


But calvin johnson with a 27 reception, 310 yard game would be a nice note to go out on.


Lions would find a way to lose it also.

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Congrats to Calvin, a well deserved record.
thelomasbrowns wrote:
Garbage time? More like garbage argument:

Completely agree - was going to post that article here too.
Ferris wrote:
Craziest thing if you look at STATS - the Lions killed it this year in a lot of areas outgaining almost every opponent. The biggest disappointment this year was the lack of discipline.

Bill Barnwell (author of the article quoted by thelomas above) said earlier on in the year that the Lions were looking like 2012's version of the 2010 Chargers - there are definite similarities. A good statistical performance that didn't translate into Ws thanks to poor execution in crucial spots and poor discipline.

IMO, this Lions team is neither as good as its 2011 record nor as poor as its 2012 one.


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IMO, this Lions team is neither as good as its 2011 record nor as poor as its 2012 one.


you are what your record is. you can say they have more talent than a typical 4-12 team but the lions are a 4-11 team at this point so thats what they are. dont give them credit for finding outlandish ways to lose games...


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2012's version of the 2010 Chargers


Don't forget atrocious special teams.

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