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I've compiled the slide show from MLive ratings of the Lions 22 FA's. I know my list would differ, what say you?

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No. 1: Ndamukong Suh
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: He’s the best player on the league’s second-best defense, and it’s hard to see how the Lions would have won 11 games without him. Detroit’s set up to win with defense, and the defense’s success is predicated on dominant line play. The case can be made that Suh is the Lions’ most valuable player. But he’s also looking to become the league’s highest-paid defensive player, and the Lions must determine just how high they would be willing to go for a defensive tackle, dominant as he may be.

No. 2: Nick Fairley
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: Detroit has some hard decisions to make here. Fairley, a former first-rounder, needed four years and considerable coaxing to finally get his weight, and consequently his performance, in order. But to his credit, he delivered during the first eight games of the year before suffering what turned out to be a season-ending knee injury. Detroit now has the difficult task of determining the value of a guy who could be really good as he enters his prime, or fall into old habits once the ink dries on a new deal.

No. 3: Matt Prater
Position: Kicker
Outlook: Started rocky, didn’t always make it look easy, but did salvage Detroit’s field-goal kicking by hitting 22 of his final 25 attempts. He has a long track record, and is still only 30 years old. Will be hard to top those credentials with another free agent, and Detroit probably doesn’t want to expend a draft pick on a specialist for the third straight year.

No. 4: Rashean Mathis
Position: Cornerback
Outlook: Impossible to overstate just how big of a signing this has proved to be. Was among a handful of guys signed in the aftermath of an awful preseason loss to Cleveland in 2013, made the team, and now has turned into a two-year starter on the field and tremendous mentor away from it for young guys like Darius Slay and Nevin Lawson. But he’ll be 35 by the time the 2015 season starts, so the Lions either need to move on from Mathis, or acquire a reliable backup should Father Time take a toll.

No. 5: C.J. Mosley
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: Was a solid reserve his first year-and-a-half with the club, then filled in capably for injured starter Nick Fairley during the second half of 2014. The defensive front hardly skipped a beat, which is a testament to Mosley’s underappreciated value. Was sent home from London after being found with marijuana in his hotel room, but don't let that fool you. He's a leader in that room.

No. 6: Don Muhlbach
Position: Long snapper
Outlook: An ageless wonder who continues to be among the league’s sharpest long-snappers.

No. 7: George Johnson
Position: Defensive end
Outlook: Camp body who made the team after a surprisingly strong offseason, and provided some unexpected production. Would be a good value signing.

No. 8: Darryl Tapp
Position: Defensive end
Outlook: Doesn’t do anything exceptionally well, but does do a bit of everything, including special teams. Also had some nice moments in the pass rush under Teryl Austin. Lions love his versatility, and could be brought back in a similar role.

No. 9: Dominic Raiola
Position: Center
Outlook: His leadership and mental acumen are valued inside the organization, but his physical skills have deteriorated. With successor Travis Swanson already on the roster, the 36-year-old Raiola might get squeezed out. One possible alternative: The Lions retain Raiola, bid adieu to Sims and plug in Swanson at left guard.

No. 10: Rob Sims
Position: Left guard
Outlook: Turned in some solid seasons for the Lions, but his best days appear to be behind him. There are some concerns over whether his body will hold up after a rough 2014. Don’t be shocked if the Lions draft an interior lineman to replace him cheaply.

No. 11: Andre Fluellen
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: The eight-time Lion (not a typo) turned in maybe his best stint with the club, recording 10 tackles and two sacks in eight games. With only Caraun Reid under contract at defensive tackle, could be brought back as a reserve.

No. 12: Corey Hilliard
Position: Offensive tackle
Outlook: One of the Lions’ better tackles when healthy. The problem is, he’s never healthy. Hilliard has battled an assortment of injuries the past couple years, and could be on his way out if the Lions acquire some new tackles.

No. 13: Isa Abdul-Quddus
Position: Safety
Outlook: Signed because of his special teams acumen, but proved to be a serviceable option at safety as well. That’s good insurance to have with James Ihedigbo set to turn 32 next season.

No. 14: Jed Collins
Position: Fullback
Outlook: A good fit for this offense because he can block, run and catch the ball out of the backfield, all requirements for the fullback in Joe Lombardi’s scheme. Also contributes on most special teams.

No. 15: Josh Bynes
Position: Linebacker
Outlook: A mid-year pickup who played his way into the rotation at middle linebacker. His future (he's a restricted free agent) could hinge on what the Lions do with Stephen Tulloch, a valued veteran who is coming off a torn ACL. With Tahir Whitehead playing so well in the middle, Tulloch might have to take a pay cut to stick around. Otherwise he could become a cap casualty, which would pave the way for Bynes’ return.

No. 16: Cassisus Vaughn
Position: Defensive back
Outlook: Tremendous influence in the locker room, where his easy-going and infectious personality are positive influences. He’s a Jim Caldwell-type guy, through and through. Played well in the nickel, too, but had some serious bumps on the outside.

No. 17: Ashlee Palmer
Position: Linebacker
Outlook: Held off second-round pick Kyle Van Noy for a season, but the Lions likely will look for their promising rookie to move into the starting lineup next year. That makes Palmer, steady but unspectacular, expendable.

No. 18: Dan Orlovsky
Position: Quarterback
Outlook: A Jim Caldwell favorite. Lions could draft a QB to groom as Matthew Stafford’s No. 2, or re-sign Orlovsky, who loves it here and is a good locker room fit.

No. 19: Kellen Moore
Position: Quarterback
Outlook: A restricted free agent, Moore is a three-year pro who has yet to dress for a game. But the Lions obviously see some kind of value in him, or they would have cut/demoted him long ago. A year in this system will help his case should Detroit elect to keep three quarterbacks again.

No. 20: Garrett Reynolds
Position: Offensive line
Outlook: Didn’t play so well at right tackle, but provided some key reps at right guard against the Cowboys. Could get re-signed to compete for a reserve job on the interior, with the flexibility to play tackle a bonus.

No. 21: Kellen Davis
Position: Tight end
Outlook: Lions keep playing him instead of Golden Tate, including on at least one third down against Dallas, so they must really like something he’s doing. Hard to figure out what that is, though. Probably won’t make next year’s team if Joseph Fauria returns.

No. 22: Josh Thomas
Position: Cornerback
Outlook: Late-season addition who was active only one game. No impact on 2015 one way or the other.

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That's a pretty good list, actually. What would you rank differently?

Suh is really the only one that matters all that much. Everyone else -- wouldn't really care one way or the other frankly.

The Lions definitely need a kicker and a long snapper. Whether that's Prater and Muhlbach, I don't really care. The same applies to their other open slots -- DT, CB, DE, G, C.


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Obviously I want Suh back, but if that doesn't happen I'd turn my attention to Fairly and Mosley. After that George Johnson has shown enough to warrant a deal. Then Prater, Mulbach, IAQ maybe Hilliard Mathis and Tapp.


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That's a pretty good list, actually. What would you rank differently?


Tough to call without knowing contract details, but making assumptions it would look something like this:

1. Suh
2. Mathis
3. Johnson
4. Mosley
5. Prater
6. Fairley
7. Fluellen
8. Tapp
9. Hilliard
10. Abdul-Quddus
11. Muhlbach
12. Raiola
13. Sims
14. Palmer
15. Collins
16. Bynes
17. Vaughn
18. Davis
19. Orlovsky
20. Reynolds
21. Moore
22. Thomas

I put heavy emphasis on DL, given they were there heart of the team. Guys like Johnson and Mosely were solid contributors and big rotation guys. I'd also move Mathis up, he was critical with Slay on the other side. I discount the OL (needs to be addressed in draft) and QB spots (draft/FA). I think depth at DB is critical, but not to high on most of the guys on this list.

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Pablo wrote:
I've compiled the slide show from MLive ratings of the Lions 22 FA's. I know my list would differ, what say you?

MLive wrote:
No. 1: Ndamukong Suh
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: He’s the best player on the league’s second-best defense, and it’s hard to see how the Lions would have won 11 games without him. Detroit’s set up to win with defense, and the defense’s success is predicated on dominant line play. The case can be made that Suh is the Lions’ most valuable player. But he’s also looking to become the league’s highest-paid defensive player, and the Lions must determine just how high they would be willing to go for a defensive tackle, dominant as he may be.

No. 2: Nick Fairley
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: Detroit has some hard decisions to make here. Fairley, a former first-rounder, needed four years and considerable coaxing to finally get his weight, and consequently his performance, in order. But to his credit, he delivered during the first eight games of the year before suffering what turned out to be a season-ending knee injury. Detroit now has the difficult task of determining the value of a guy who could be really good as he enters his prime, or fall into old habits once the ink dries on a new deal.

No. 3: Matt Prater
Position: Kicker
Outlook: Started rocky, didn’t always make it look easy, but did salvage Detroit’s field-goal kicking by hitting 22 of his final 25 attempts. He has a long track record, and is still only 30 years old. Will be hard to top those credentials with another free agent, and Detroit probably doesn’t want to expend a draft pick on a specialist for the third straight year.

No. 4: Rashean Mathis
Position: Cornerback
Outlook: Impossible to overstate just how big of a signing this has proved to be. Was among a handful of guys signed in the aftermath of an awful preseason loss to Cleveland in 2013, made the team, and now has turned into a two-year starter on the field and tremendous mentor away from it for young guys like Darius Slay and Nevin Lawson. But he’ll be 35 by the time the 2015 season starts, so the Lions either need to move on from Mathis, or acquire a reliable backup should Father Time take a toll.

No. 5: C.J. Mosley
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: Was a solid reserve his first year-and-a-half with the club, then filled in capably for injured starter Nick Fairley during the second half of 2014. The defensive front hardly skipped a beat, which is a testament to Mosley’s underappreciated value. Was sent home from London after being found with marijuana in his hotel room, but don't let that fool you. He's a leader in that room.

No. 6: Don Muhlbach
Position: Long snapper
Outlook: An ageless wonder who continues to be among the league’s sharpest long-snappers.

No. 7: George Johnson
Position: Defensive end
Outlook: Camp body who made the team after a surprisingly strong offseason, and provided some unexpected production. Would be a good value signing.

No. 8: Darryl Tapp
Position: Defensive end
Outlook: Doesn’t do anything exceptionally well, but does do a bit of everything, including special teams. Also had some nice moments in the pass rush under Teryl Austin. Lions love his versatility, and could be brought back in a similar role.

No. 9: Dominic Raiola
Position: Center
Outlook: His leadership and mental acumen are valued inside the organization, but his physical skills have deteriorated. With successor Travis Swanson already on the roster, the 36-year-old Raiola might get squeezed out. One possible alternative: The Lions retain Raiola, bid adieu to Sims and plug in Swanson at left guard.

No. 10: Rob Sims
Position: Left guard
Outlook: Turned in some solid seasons for the Lions, but his best days appear to be behind him. There are some concerns over whether his body will hold up after a rough 2014. Don’t be shocked if the Lions draft an interior lineman to replace him cheaply.

No. 11: Andre Fluellen
Position: Defensive tackle
Outlook: The eight-time Lion (not a typo) turned in maybe his best stint with the club, recording 10 tackles and two sacks in eight games. With only Caraun Reid under contract at defensive tackle, could be brought back as a reserve.

No. 12: Corey Hilliard
Position: Offensive tackle
Outlook: One of the Lions’ better tackles when healthy. The problem is, he’s never healthy. Hilliard has battled an assortment of injuries the past couple years, and could be on his way out if the Lions acquire some new tackles.

No. 13: Isa Abdul-Quddus
Position: Safety
Outlook: Signed because of his special teams acumen, but proved to be a serviceable option at safety as well. That’s good insurance to have with James Ihedigbo set to turn 32 next season.

No. 14: Jed Collins
Position: Fullback
Outlook: A good fit for this offense because he can block, run and catch the ball out of the backfield, all requirements for the fullback in Joe Lombardi’s scheme. Also contributes on most special teams.

No. 15: Josh Bynes
Position: Linebacker
Outlook: A mid-year pickup who played his way into the rotation at middle linebacker. His future (he's a restricted free agent) could hinge on what the Lions do with Stephen Tulloch, a valued veteran who is coming off a torn ACL. With Tahir Whitehead playing so well in the middle, Tulloch might have to take a pay cut to stick around. Otherwise he could become a cap casualty, which would pave the way for Bynes’ return.

No. 16: Cassisus Vaughn
Position: Defensive back
Outlook: Tremendous influence in the locker room, where his easy-going and infectious personality are positive influences. He’s a Jim Caldwell-type guy, through and through. Played well in the nickel, too, but had some serious bumps on the outside.

No. 17: Ashlee Palmer
Position: Linebacker
Outlook: Held off second-round pick Kyle Van Noy for a season, but the Lions likely will look for their promising rookie to move into the starting lineup next year. That makes Palmer, steady but unspectacular, expendable.

No. 18: Dan Orlovsky
Position: Quarterback
Outlook: A Jim Caldwell favorite. Lions could draft a QB to groom as Matthew Stafford’s No. 2, or re-sign Orlovsky, who loves it here and is a good locker room fit.

No. 19: Kellen Moore
Position: Quarterback
Outlook: A restricted free agent, Moore is a three-year pro who has yet to dress for a game. But the Lions obviously see some kind of value in him, or they would have cut/demoted him long ago. A year in this system will help his case should Detroit elect to keep three quarterbacks again.

No. 20: Garrett Reynolds
Position: Offensive line
Outlook: Didn’t play so well at right tackle, but provided some key reps at right guard against the Cowboys. Could get re-signed to compete for a reserve job on the interior, with the flexibility to play tackle a bonus.

No. 21: Kellen Davis
Position: Tight end
Outlook: Lions keep playing him instead of Golden Tate, including on at least one third down against Dallas, so they must really like something he’s doing. Hard to figure out what that is, though. Probably won’t make next year’s team if Joseph Fauria returns.

No. 22: Josh Thomas
Position: Cornerback
Outlook: Late-season addition who was active only one game. No impact on 2015 one way or the other.


Re-sign #s: 1,2,3,4,5,7,11,12,14,17,and 19. I am not sure about #22. But, let the rest walk. Including Muhlbach. There has got to be a young guy that can handle long snaps at a much lower price tag.


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Detroit Lions are in a tough spot with Nick Fairley

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions' top offseason objective is to re-sign star defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

What to do with Nick Fairley is less clear.

He's a guy many say has just as much raw ability as Suh. And Suh is one of them.

Fairley certainly looked the part, too, during an eight-game tear to open the 2014 season. He racked up 14 tackles, one sack, one forced fumble and three QB hits. His 16 QB hurries entering the Atlanta game were just one off Suh's league lead.

He didn't play in any of the final nine games due to a knee injury he suffered against the Falcons, but continued to improve his fitness, reporting back to the team at a trim 290 pounds. He hounded coaches to let him play against Dallas, and probably would have played against Seattle had the Lions advanced to the second round of the postseason.

Fairley proved just how good he can be at top form, and he's going to want to be paid accordingly.

The Lions now have the difficult task of appraising what he's really worth.

At his best, Fairley's the generic-brand version of Suh. At the same time, it took more than three years of cajoling for the defensive tackle to finally get into proper shape and play at that kind of level.

The Lions had to go so far as to decline a club-friendly $5.5 million option for 2015, turning this season into a contract year, to incentivize Fairley into doing what he should have been doing all along.

It worked.

But the question is once Fairley gets paid, which version will show up next year?

Fairley is saying all the right things. He says he intends to keep his personal chef throughout the rest of his career, and intends to play next year between 290 and 300 pounds.

"Probably keep him the rest of my life, to be honest with you," Fairley said. "With my chef, and being able to work out, just stay in shape, it'll be pretty easy."

On locker clean out day, Fairley dodged most questions about his pending free agency. He did reiterate, though, that he loves Detroit and would like to remain here.

"I want to be here, I'll say that," he said. "I want to be here. I love Detroit. I love this city, the people in it, the atmosphere. Basically, the hard work that it brings. I'm just a hard-worker, and that's the vibe from the city."

The Lions are in a tough spot. They don't want to let their first-round pick walk out the door just when he was getting good. At the same time, they don't want to sink more money into him, only to have the old Fairley show up in 2015.

"I think (my future's) bright," Fairley said. "I think I can still get my name around this league, as far as being a consistent player each and every week no matter where I'm at. And that's going to be my goal -- playing consistently, being there for the team, helping them win and doing whatever I have to do."

Many of Detroit's offseason moves are obvious. Try to re-sign Suh, revamp the offensive line, upgrade the personnel in the offensive backfield.

Figuring out what to do with Fairley is a lot more difficult.

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MLive wrote:
Detroit Lions are in a tough spot with Nick Fairley

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions' top offseason objective is to re-sign star defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

What to do with Nick Fairley is less clear.

He's a guy many say has just as much raw ability as Suh. And Suh is one of them.

Fairley certainly looked the part, too, during an eight-game tear to open the 2014 season. He racked up 14 tackles, one sack, one forced fumble and three QB hits. His 16 QB hurries entering the Atlanta game were just one off Suh's league lead.

He didn't play in any of the final nine games due to a knee injury he suffered against the Falcons, but continued to improve his fitness, reporting back to the team at a trim 290 pounds. He hounded coaches to let him play against Dallas, and probably would have played against Seattle had the Lions advanced to the second round of the postseason.

Fairley proved just how good he can be at top form, and he's going to want to be paid accordingly.

The Lions now have the difficult task of appraising what he's really worth.

At his best, Fairley's the generic-brand version of Suh. At the same time, it took more than three years of cajoling for the defensive tackle to finally get into proper shape and play at that kind of level.

The Lions had to go so far as to decline a club-friendly $5.5 million option for 2015, turning this season into a contract year, to incentivize Fairley into doing what he should have been doing all along.

It worked.

But the question is once Fairley gets paid, which version will show up next year?

Fairley is saying all the right things. He says he intends to keep his personal chef throughout the rest of his career, and intends to play next year between 290 and 300 pounds.

"Probably keep him the rest of my life, to be honest with you," Fairley said. "With my chef, and being able to work out, just stay in shape, it'll be pretty easy."

On locker clean out day, Fairley dodged most questions about his pending free agency. He did reiterate, though, that he loves Detroit and would like to remain here.

"I want to be here, I'll say that," he said. "I want to be here. I love Detroit. I love this city, the people in it, the atmosphere. Basically, the hard work that it brings. I'm just a hard-worker, and that's the vibe from the city."

The Lions are in a tough spot. They don't want to let their first-round pick walk out the door just when he was getting good. At the same time, they don't want to sink more money into him, only to have the old Fairley show up in 2015.

"I think (my future's) bright," Fairley said. "I think I can still get my name around this league, as far as being a consistent player each and every week no matter where I'm at. And that's going to be my goal -- playing consistently, being there for the team, helping them win and doing whatever I have to do."

Many of Detroit's offseason moves are obvious. Try to re-sign Suh, revamp the offensive line, upgrade the personnel in the offensive backfield.

Figuring out what to do with Fairley is a lot more difficult.


Each team has 1 franchise tag, and 2 restricted tags. I can't remember how many transition tags they can use. If it's 2, use a transition tag on both Suh and Fairley.


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BillySims wrote:
Pablo wrote:
MLive wrote:
Detroit Lions are in a tough spot with Nick Fairley

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions' top offseason objective is to re-sign star defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

What to do with Nick Fairley is less clear.

He's a guy many say has just as much raw ability as Suh. And Suh is one of them.

Fairley certainly looked the part, too, during an eight-game tear to open the 2014 season. He racked up 14 tackles, one sack, one forced fumble and three QB hits. His 16 QB hurries entering the Atlanta game were just one off Suh's league lead.

He didn't play in any of the final nine games due to a knee injury he suffered against the Falcons, but continued to improve his fitness, reporting back to the team at a trim 290 pounds. He hounded coaches to let him play against Dallas, and probably would have played against Seattle had the Lions advanced to the second round of the postseason.

Fairley proved just how good he can be at top form, and he's going to want to be paid accordingly.

The Lions now have the difficult task of appraising what he's really worth.

At his best, Fairley's the generic-brand version of Suh. At the same time, it took more than three years of cajoling for the defensive tackle to finally get into proper shape and play at that kind of level.

The Lions had to go so far as to decline a club-friendly $5.5 million option for 2015, turning this season into a contract year, to incentivize Fairley into doing what he should have been doing all along.

It worked.

But the question is once Fairley gets paid, which version will show up next year?

Fairley is saying all the right things. He says he intends to keep his personal chef throughout the rest of his career, and intends to play next year between 290 and 300 pounds.

"Probably keep him the rest of my life, to be honest with you," Fairley said. "With my chef, and being able to work out, just stay in shape, it'll be pretty easy."

On locker clean out day, Fairley dodged most questions about his pending free agency. He did reiterate, though, that he loves Detroit and would like to remain here.

"I want to be here, I'll say that," he said. "I want to be here. I love Detroit. I love this city, the people in it, the atmosphere. Basically, the hard work that it brings. I'm just a hard-worker, and that's the vibe from the city."

The Lions are in a tough spot. They don't want to let their first-round pick walk out the door just when he was getting good. At the same time, they don't want to sink more money into him, only to have the old Fairley show up in 2015.

"I think (my future's) bright," Fairley said. "I think I can still get my name around this league, as far as being a consistent player each and every week no matter where I'm at. And that's going to be my goal -- playing consistently, being there for the team, helping them win and doing whatever I have to do."

Many of Detroit's offseason moves are obvious. Try to re-sign Suh, revamp the offensive line, upgrade the personnel in the offensive backfield.

Figuring out what to do with Fairley is a lot more difficult.


Each team has 1 franchise tag, and 2 restricted tags. I can't remember how many transition tags they can use. If it's 2, use a transition tag on both Suh and Fairley.

You can only use the transition tag once, and can not use it again until the contract of said transition tagged player's contract expires. For example, we transition tag Suh and sign him to a 4 year contract, we can not use that tag again (on ANYONE) untill his 4 year contract is up. At least that is how I understand that rule.

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regularjoe12 wrote:
BillySims wrote:
Pablo wrote:
MLive wrote:
Detroit Lions are in a tough spot with Nick Fairley

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions' top offseason objective is to re-sign star defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

What to do with Nick Fairley is less clear.

He's a guy many say has just as much raw ability as Suh. And Suh is one of them.

Fairley certainly looked the part, too, during an eight-game tear to open the 2014 season. He racked up 14 tackles, one sack, one forced fumble and three QB hits. His 16 QB hurries entering the Atlanta game were just one off Suh's league lead.

He didn't play in any of the final nine games due to a knee injury he suffered against the Falcons, but continued to improve his fitness, reporting back to the team at a trim 290 pounds. He hounded coaches to let him play against Dallas, and probably would have played against Seattle had the Lions advanced to the second round of the postseason.

Fairley proved just how good he can be at top form, and he's going to want to be paid accordingly.

The Lions now have the difficult task of appraising what he's really worth.

At his best, Fairley's the generic-brand version of Suh. At the same time, it took more than three years of cajoling for the defensive tackle to finally get into proper shape and play at that kind of level.

The Lions had to go so far as to decline a club-friendly $5.5 million option for 2015, turning this season into a contract year, to incentivize Fairley into doing what he should have been doing all along.

It worked.

But the question is once Fairley gets paid, which version will show up next year?

Fairley is saying all the right things. He says he intends to keep his personal chef throughout the rest of his career, and intends to play next year between 290 and 300 pounds.

"Probably keep him the rest of my life, to be honest with you," Fairley said. "With my chef, and being able to work out, just stay in shape, it'll be pretty easy."

On locker clean out day, Fairley dodged most questions about his pending free agency. He did reiterate, though, that he loves Detroit and would like to remain here.

"I want to be here, I'll say that," he said. "I want to be here. I love Detroit. I love this city, the people in it, the atmosphere. Basically, the hard work that it brings. I'm just a hard-worker, and that's the vibe from the city."

The Lions are in a tough spot. They don't want to let their first-round pick walk out the door just when he was getting good. At the same time, they don't want to sink more money into him, only to have the old Fairley show up in 2015.

"I think (my future's) bright," Fairley said. "I think I can still get my name around this league, as far as being a consistent player each and every week no matter where I'm at. And that's going to be my goal -- playing consistently, being there for the team, helping them win and doing whatever I have to do."

Many of Detroit's offseason moves are obvious. Try to re-sign Suh, revamp the offensive line, upgrade the personnel in the offensive backfield.

Figuring out what to do with Fairley is a lot more difficult.


Each team has 1 franchise tag, and 2 restricted tags. I can't remember how many transition tags they can use. If it's 2, use a transition tag on both Suh and Fairley.

You can only use the transition tag once, and can not use it again until the contract of said transition tagged player's contract expires. For example, we transition tag Suh and sign him to a 4 year contract, we can not use that tag again (on ANYONE) untill his 4 year contract is up. At least that is how I understand that rule.


Yes, now that you mention that, I believe you are correct.


January 8th, 2015, 4:18 pm
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What is a restricted tag? I've never heard of anything other than a Franchise tag or transition tag which a team can only use one or the other in the same year.


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I think Fairley's worth a decent deal. I don;t think he was as bad when "unmotivated" as made out. He wasn't playing to his potential, but he was a better than average DT even before this year. What was the point of "motivating" him this year if we're then going to run scared of "what if it was just because we did that"?


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UK Lion wrote:
I think Fairley's worth a decent deal. I don;t think he was as bad when "unmotivated" as made out. He wasn't playing to his potential, but he was a better than average DT even before this year. What was the point of "motivating" him this year if we're then going to run scared of "what if it was just because we did that"?


I agree, and I dont think he would cost a fortune either. Him being out 9 weeks for a projected 4 week injury seriously hurt his contract numbers IMO. he would be wise to sigh a 1 or 2 year contract and try to stay healthy so he can collect on a big payday. For now, I think between his inconsistant play and prolonged healing times he isnt going to be offered any obscene money.

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January 8th, 2015, 6:34 pm
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UK Lion wrote:
I think Fairley's worth a decent deal. I don;t think he was as bad when "unmotivated" as made out. He wasn't playing to his potential, but he was a better than average DT even before this year. What was the point of "motivating" him this year if we're then going to run scared of "what if it was just because we did that"?



he hasnt ever been a bad player either with his weight up or down but he may have been taking a few plays off here and there. but with his somewhat frequent injuries those may have been a factor in conditioning. i watch the lineman very closely and have always been impressed with his technique reading blocks and feeling out the play based on what the opposing lineman was doing to him. 290 lbs which fairley is supposedly at right now actually seems pretty light for an NFL DT and I dont think the 320-325 which he weighed in past seasons were particularly high either.


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What is a restricted tag? I've never heard of anything other than a Franchise tag or transition tag which a team can only use one or the other in the same year.


restricted tags are for younger FA's that you get 1st refusal on or you receive 1st and 3rd round comp on one of them. And the other you get 1st refusal or original round ( The round the player was drafted in ) compensation.


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rao wrote:
What is a restricted tag? I've never heard of anything other than a Franchise tag or transition tag which a team can only use one or the other in the same year.


restricted tags are for younger FA's that you get 1st refusal on or you receive 1st and 3rd round comp on one of them. And the other you get 1st refusal or original round ( The round the player was drafted in ) compensation.


So your just talking about restricted free agents, but there is no limit on restricted "tags" its solely determined by each players amount of accrued seasons. I'm also pretty sure they did away with the 1st and a 3rd tender. I think it's just a 1st, a 2nd, or original round tender.


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