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Lions just gave Jim Caldwell a multi year contract extension.


September 23rd, 2017, 8:15 pm
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Actually they didn't just give him the extension, reports are that is was a done deal months ago. And he still has a lot to prove, but think Upper Management saw improvement and his willing to give him a bit of rope, but will pull back if results aren't there. From ESPN:

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It’s unlikely Caldwell’s type of results so far -- not securing divisional titles, not winning playoff games -- will be good enough for the franchise in the future. Remember, at their core, Quinn and team president Rod Wood come from places of winning. Quinn has Patriots philosophy throughout his entire history. Wood, before he took over the Lions presidency, was an extremely successful businessman.

Both Quinn and Wood appear to be betting on Caldwell being able to reach a level of success with Detroit that he has been unable to get to consistently. Quinn and Wood want a winner. They could have taken a wait-and-see approach with this season. They could have also gone in a different direction in two straight offseasons now.

If it works, Caldwell, Quinn, Wood and quarterback Matthew Stafford will be viewed as legends in this city that has been starved of winning at football. If it doesn't, and the Lions remain in mediocrity or worse, it’ll be on all of them

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September 23rd, 2017, 8:32 pm
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Disappointed.


September 24th, 2017, 8:00 am
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i dont get how anyone can be disappointed about it. Caldwell has done a stellar job of incorporating the young players that Quinn has drafted and bringing them along while getting contributions and mostly winning. Caldwell has helped Stafford make major strides. He deserved the extension.


September 26th, 2017, 10:22 pm
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i dont get how anyone can be disappointed about it. Caldwell has done a stellar job of incorporating the young players that Quinn has drafted and bringing them along while getting contributions and mostly winning. Caldwell has helped Stafford make major strides. He deserved the extension.
Agreed. Not only is Quinn getting the players, Caldwell and Co and developing them; something we haven't seen a lot of in the past decade plus.

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September 27th, 2017, 9:34 am
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Caldwell also deserves a lot of credit with the culture change that has happened on the team. It is obvious the players have a lot of respect for him, there are numerous interviews with the players complimenting him. Stafford's maturity and leadership has grown immensely since Caldwell took over. He has handled discipline very well, both the Stafford and Tate benchings lead to improved play and proved he wasn't afraid to bench a star. As long as Caldwell can manage to keep getting strong assistants, so he can be a manager not a strategist, the extension should work out great for Detroit.


September 27th, 2017, 11:23 am
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I hope it's a long extension.


September 28th, 2017, 1:18 am
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Personally, I'm disappointed Caldwell was extended. I take solace in the fact that it really doesn't mean anything.

I don't see where Caldwell has done all that much to develop this team. The team has made the playoffs, but how? Certainly not on high notes peaking as they went into the post season. The mere fact that the Lions posted 8 4th quarter come from behind victories goes more to talent than coaching in my opinion. In other words, they were unable to get, and maintain leads. Production throughout most of those games was poor just as it is now. The thing is that the Lions almost always made hay at the end of the first half and when they had no choice but to take more chances at the end of the games.

I see Caldwell as another Wayne Fontes. They both rely on talent to get the job done. They favor a bend but don't break style of defense that keeps the offense in the game while the offensive game plan is safe plays designed around big play ability to make them effective. Talent over technique and wait until the defense makes a mistake rather than pushing them into one. This does not work against good teams.

Caldwell is .500 coach. The Lions have not won their way into the post season. Yes, they have won enough games to qualify, but when you look at it they have had to rely on other teams to lose because they have not won when it mattered.


October 19th, 2017, 9:01 pm
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Personally, I'm disappointed Caldwell was extended. I take solace in the fact that it really doesn't mean anything.

I don't see where Caldwell has done all that much to develop this team. The team has made the playoffs, but how? Certainly not on high notes peaking as they went into the post season. The mere fact that the Lions posted 8 4th quarter come from behind victories goes more to talent than coaching in my opinion. In other words, they were unable to get, and maintain leads. Production throughout most of those games was poor just as it is now. The thing is that the Lions almost always made hay at the end of the first half and when they had no choice but to take more chances at the end of the games.

I see Caldwell as another Wayne Fontes. They both rely on talent to get the job done. They favor a bend but don't break style of defense that keeps the offense in the game while the offensive game plan is safe plays designed around big play ability to make them effective. Talent over technique and wait until the defense makes a mistake rather than pushing them into one. This does not work against good teams.

Caldwell is .500 coach. The Lions have not won their way into the post season. Yes, they have won enough games to qualify, but when you look at it they have had to rely on other teams to lose because they have not won when it mattered.


I don't know if you are being fair here. It's not Caldwells fault that Stafford Broke his hand last year. It's not Caldwells fault this team was devoid of talent on the defensive side of the ball. This team does not look or feel like the "Same old Lions". That's all due to Caldwell.

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October 20th, 2017, 6:02 pm
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Caldwell has done NOTHING to develop a run game in his 3 plus seasons at the helm of the Lions. His history has shown that it's not his forte to establish a strong ground game. Imo, the Lions are no better than they were with Schwartz. He has the rest of the season to prove that he deserves this job. I'm sick and tired of the mediocrity. Just because Martha gave him an extension, doesn't mean he won't be shown the door at seasons end. One can only hope.


October 30th, 2017, 7:08 pm
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I think Caldwell is developing players well but he s still a poor game manager and not much of an X and O guy. Cooter was being badly outcoached in the red zone and Caldwell couldnt help him. Not kicking the go ahead FG the way the Lions were getting nothing in the red zone was completely moronic and predictable.

Without a passrush the Lions gave Roethlisberger way too many chances to get things right and even in a off night for Big Ben allowed the Steelers too many big plays. That part of it is on the talent level/front office.


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Good point about the lack of a pass rush. It was a glaring shortcoming all game long. Believe Caldwells in over his head.


October 30th, 2017, 10:21 pm
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I don't know if you are being fair here. It's not Caldwells fault that Stafford Broke his hand last year. It's not Caldwells fault this team was devoid of talent on the defensive side of the ball. This team does not look or feel like the "Same old Lions". That's all due to Caldwell.

I don't know how long you have been watching the Lions, but I have watched them my entire 58 years and they do indeed look like the same old Lions.

Stafford's injured finger had nothing to do with it last year. Did it hamper the team? Yeah. At the same time they were hardly a juggernaut before he hurt his finger. The defense bent way, way too much, Caldwell kept going with Washington even though he was aware he didn't hit the holes well or key off his blocks. The offense is built around players making something from nothing based on mismatches like Riddick out of the backfield or Tate out of the slot.

The Lions have backed into the playoffs since Schwartz was here. Faced with the need to win to get in they have always failed. Caldwell led Lions teams have not yet won their way into the playoffs. Every time they have had to rely on other teams to lose because when it mattered they could not win.

I will continue to point out that talent isn't the issue and really never has been. Talent and a buck and a half will get you a cup of coffee. Every team in the league has talent. Fans and sports casters look at the top teams and claim they have more talent, but that isn't the case. It is more likely that their coaches put them in better places to succeed. They do a better job of managing players as it relates to the game plan and game situation. They make better calls based on the players and the situations. Not to mention they probably don't just play a player because they have greater physical talents. players have to know their assignments, be more technically sound and are held to a high standard. That is for the top teams.

Everyone else relies on talent. Dwayne Washington plays because he has size and speed. He is fast enough to have big play potential. He can't hit a hole to save his life, but that doesn't matter. He is only running the ball to keep the defense a bit honest and maybe, just maybe he'll break a big one. It is why Ebron plays. It is why Abdullah is pulled on third down in favor of Riddick. The Lions make plays, they don't out execute. That goes on the head coach.


October 31st, 2017, 10:28 pm
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New reports are that this was just a 1 year plus an option year deal. Basically, it was for the sole purpose of not letting Caldwell be in a Lame Duck season. So, he can be fired after this season with little remaining obligations.


December 10th, 2017, 11:56 am
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ESPN wrote:
Contract of Lions coach Jim Caldwell includes team options

TAMPA, Fla. -- Detroit Lions coach Jim Caldwell's multiyear contract extension, signed earlier this year, appears to provide less job security than initially believed, a source confirmed to ESPN.

The source said Caldwell's extension is guaranteed for only 2018 with team options beyond that, so if the Lions decide to fire Caldwell, they would have to pay him for next season only.

Prior to Sunday's game, Lions president Rod Wood and general manager Bob Quinn declined to stop and talk with reporters while in the press box.

NFL Network first reported the extensions contained in Caldwell's contract.

Caldwell is in his fourth season with the Lions and has a 33-27 record, including a 6-6 record in 2017 entering Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He has taken the Lions to the playoffs in two of his three seasons in Detroit and holds a 59-49 career record with the Lions and Indianapolis Colts.

When news of the extension came out in September, the Lions said the contract had been signed months ago, keeping him from being a lame-duck head coach, and was a multiyear deal. When they confirmed the extension, Wood said it was a mutual decision between the club and Caldwell not to make the extension public knowledge.

Caldwell has been on and off the hot seat since the middle of the 2015 season, when the Lions started 1-6 and he fired offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and offensive line coaches Jeremiah Washburn and Terry Heffernan, promoting Jim Bob Cooter to offensive coordinator and Ron Prince to offensive line coach.

Caldwell's job was in question at the end of the 2016 season, when the Lions lost three straight games to close the regular season, but still made the playoffs because Washington lost in Week 17. The Lions were then blown out by the Seattle Seahawks in the wild-card round.

Detroit began this season 3-1 but have lost their last two games -- both critical to the playoff race -- without ever holding a lead. The Lions have also had issues getting the right number of players on the field, putting 10 men on defense for a Minnesota Vikings touchdown on Thanksgiving and nine men on a critical third down in a loss to the Baltimore Ravens.

Caldwell has taken the blame for both gaffes repeatedly during news conferences over the past two weeks.

The Lions are all but out of the NFC North title race -- something that appeared wide open after Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers broke his right collarbone in Week 6 -- and likely need to win out and receive some help to make the playoffs as a wild-card team.

Detroit has not won a division title since 1993 and last won a playoff game during the 1991 season.

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