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 Seahawks at Lions, Week 8 
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Post Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
This year s Lions team has been as confusing as any I can remember. Wins against higher rated teams like the Packers and Patriots in convincing fashion and convincing losses against lesser foes. One of the keys for the Lions has been masking a weak run defense by getting ahead early in games that they have won. The Jets and 49ers were able to continue running on the Lions for the duration of the game. Maybe a lot of that changes with "Snacks" Harrison on board. The Packers, Patriots and Dolphins found themselves not only behind vs the Lions but also severely thinned at the specialty position groups mostly playing with skeleton crews at WR. The Seahawks may present a greater challenge with a solid stable of running backs to wear out a defense, a mobile QB and a couple dangerous weapons at WR in Lockett and Baldwin. A week ago against Miami, the Lions were able to generate some quick pressures up front with Jean Francois beating a couple double teams with a nice swim move and Jarrad Davis playing in the front 4 on obvious passing downs and looking good as a pin your ears back passrusher. Im not sure if that works against Russel Wilson so I look for the Lions DL to try and keep him in the pocket with the DEs/outside players Okwara/Kennard playing contain rather than rushing upfield. The question is will the secondary hold up to a front that seems likely to give Wilson ample time to throw? Glover Quin appears to be slipping a bit this season. The Lions lost some speed on defense with the Agnew injury but the recent opponents didnt have the tools to attack that - it seems that Seattle does. Patricia will probably have to be on the mark dialing up blitzes with Kennard and Davis.

Offensively the Lions are hitting there stride but again consider the opponents and the struggles against the 49ers and Cowboys with more solid fronts. Seattle has a formidable DL with a couple emerging/arrived players in Jarran Reed and Frank Clark and a still good LB crew. Stafford might be in duress a lil more than usual and the run game isnt likely to go off like it has the last couple of games. The Lions will have to stay patient in getting Kerryon Johnson his touches to keep the defense honest but the passing game is where most of the success will need to come from in this game. Cooter has had a tendency to be really predictable with his personnel groupings but that seems to have gotten better with the run game improving and perhaps the subtraction of Theo Riddick. An unheralded player so far has been LB-FB convert Nick Bellore who ll have a taller task against a better LB group. Michael Roberts showed last week that he is healthy and is the most natural receiver the Lions have from the TE position - his role should grow and give defensive coordinators another element to worry about.

Prediction:
Lions 27
Seahawks 24


October 28th, 2018, 10:13 am
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Seahawks are in the neutral zone on every snap of that drive. Fortunately, it didn’t hurt us.


October 28th, 2018, 1:24 pm
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Tyler Locket pushed off to get that TD.


October 28th, 2018, 1:35 pm
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
We need to get Tabor help!!


October 28th, 2018, 2:00 pm
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Tabor sucks.


October 28th, 2018, 2:41 pm
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Spiel man just showed what I have been seeing all game. The Seahawks are lining up, offsides on every one of our offensive snaps. And the refs aren’t calling it.


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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Story of this game? Our offensive line stunk!!!


October 28th, 2018, 3:40 pm
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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Yeah offsides a lot and never called. At least we know who this team is now. Losing games to teams that you should have beat is what we always do. We'll be lucky to be 7-9. Had a chance to move up in the north today but we're in the basement where we belong.


October 28th, 2018, 4:12 pm
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I agree that this was a telling game about who the Lions really are. The offensive line again struggled against a good defensive front like it did against Dallas. They couldnt run and while not bad protecting the passer Stafford faced a considerable amount of duress and had to hurry his progressions often particularly later in the game when running the ball was no longer an option. The OL is finally average but probably not a whole lot more than that. After Michael Roberts performance last week there was hope he would be more involved in the offense but instead the Lions gave Luke Willson a lot of looks in his revenge game instead and he again looked pretty marginal. Kerryon Johnson is an every down back for the Lions and is a huge upgrade but he s probably not quite a superstar. The WR group remains the strength of the team with 3 good receivers. Ameer Abdullah is still a fumbler. Stafford can take some risks to get the team back in the game but without a superstar on this team the margin for error is slim and fumbles and INTs in despration are going to happen. Defensively, the Lions lack a passrush and still cant stop the run. Damon Harrison did help and he was big on a goalline stand and got a sack on a bullrush but he wasnt enough against this team. The Lions are not athletic enough on the edge and there secondary isnt good enough to allow QBs to have all day to survey the field. A respectable passrush is needed but the Lions best passrusher cant seem to get on the field. The secondary is probably the strength of the defense but there are issues. Nevin Lawson can cover but he has a hard time making a play on the ball and Teez Tabor seems to be a sad experiment thats unlikely to turn around. Glover Quin's days as a playmaker may be gone. Coach Patricia passed up an opportunity to force Seattle to punt late in the first half from deep in there own territory and the Lions special teams were embarrassed overloaded on a puntblock when Seattle was looking to take a safety and the punter instead was able to scramble for a first down to put the game away. They certainly did not look like a playoff team in this one.


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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
To me, this loss is on Patricia. The Lions looked ill prepared to play the Seahawks. Kudos to coach Carroll who's team seemed well prepared and fired up to kick the Lions rectum, which they did handily. I am severely pissed.


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Post Re: Seahawks at Lions, Week 8
Tabor was outclassed by Seattle's number 3 WR. Does anyone even know who that is? A second round pick should be contributing in his second year but too often he was watching as the play was made. The need for a pass rush is obvious. Slay makes our secondary good but without a rush we can't do much. Need a DE and probably another corner.


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inheritedlionsfan wrote:
Tabor was outclassed by Seattle's number 3 WR. Does anyone even know who that is? A second round pick should be contributing in his second year but too often he was watching as the play was made. The need for a pass rush is obvious. Slay makes our secondary good but without a rush we can't do much. Need a DE and probably another corner.


I know most people will blame the secondary but what they did against New England and Green Bay was just not sustainable. The front allowed good QBs forever to throw and eventually in those games it turned into coverage sacks bc neither QB could really run (Rodgers bc of injury) and also both were missing some of there key weapons, but in this game Wilson can run and had quality players to throw to. I agree Lawson and especially Tabor could and should be upgraded and that the depth guys cant bring down a punter trying to take a loss but the secondary is probably the best part of the defense. Davis and Kennard have the makings of a good LB crew but I just see way too much negative play from Davis to think the LBers are set and Christian Jones is a weak link. Its hard to believe Ansah would be back in future seasons so the DE group needs major reconstruction but they might have there interior DL nucleus set. A'Shawn is playing well, Hand is having a very strong first season and the addition of Damon Harrison. Ricky Jean Francois has had a couple of good moments but I think they are playing him far too many snaps. At end, Okwara plays the position with good discipline and can hold the edge, he s just not a player defenses are scared of despite racking up 5 sacks so far. He s not blowing past the tackles and defeating them in the passrush in the traditional sense but has been a quality addition especially when you factor in his youth. When looking at the above pieces as above it seems that the Lions probably arent that far from having the personnel for a complete defense. On the other hand when you just give the group an overall assessment they lack speed and athleticism and get blown off the LOS which is what I find troubling.


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