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Post Patriots shopping 1st round pick?
The Patriots are rumored to be shopping a first round pick. This news coming out of San Diego. With the Pat's looking to rid themselves of one of two 1st rounders. Hard to know if this is just bull or not. New England has a propensity for trading draft picks. If they are looking for a trading partner, call Mayhew. 13 and 44 for 17 and 28, puts us in better position for late round 1 corner that's falling, or a LB that's climbing from 2nd to 1st round territory.


March 22nd, 2011, 2:31 pm
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IMO neither team makes a move before the draft. Why would the Pats trade their pick not knowing what the rookie salary situation is going to be? And why would the Pats trade their pick for unknown compensation? They will likely wait until they are certain that their player is available at the position of the team offering the pick.


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not to mention, if they are shoipping their pick...why would they move up? shopping picks is generally a move back scenario. Throw in the fact that N.E. LOVES to trade back anyway....highly unlikly that we see a trade with them.

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not to mention, if they are shoipping their pick...why would they move up? shopping picks is generally a move back scenario. Throw in the fact that N.E. LOVES to trade back anyway....highly unlikly that we see a trade with them.


If they want Mark Graham they will trade up.


March 22nd, 2011, 8:40 pm
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regularjoe12 wrote:
not to mention, if they are shoipping their pick...why would they move up? shopping picks is generally a move back scenario. Throw in the fact that N.E. LOVES to trade back anyway....highly unlikly that we see a trade with them.


If they want Mark Graham they will trade up.


Who the Hell is Mark Graham? If you are thinking Mark Ingram, the Patriots wouldn't move up for a first round running back like him, at all. They'd probably prefer to wait and take LeShoure, who I think will be a better pro football player anyways. I have a feeling a number of teams see it that way.


The fact is, New England might be interested in moving up to secure one of the 34 DEs at the top part of the draft. Cameron Jordan and J.J. Watt will likely be gone by the 17th pick, but are likely to be there at 13...at least one of them. Plus, they would no longer have to worry about two first rounders, since that's the gist of the whole "they don't want two first rounders". The Patriots seek value not just from their picks, but their entire draft. They like to position themselves into those areas they think the most talent will be for the best value. They may not be the most talented players in the draft, but they get a slight downgrade in talent for a much more manageable price. It's exactly why the Patriots are good year after year, and can afford to sign a decent free agent now and again. They manage their cap VERY well that way, and still get rookie talent galore.

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March 22nd, 2011, 9:16 pm
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Yes. I meant Ingrahm. I blame it on the mad cow disease. LOL.


March 22nd, 2011, 9:24 pm
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Post Re: Patriots shopping 1st round pick?
I keep hearing rumors that the Pats are actively shopping the 28th pick, but haven't heard much concerning the 17th. Since they have more early picks than they know what to do with, perhaps they are looking for a 2012 1st rounder? Who knows?

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I keep hearing rumors that the Pats are actively shopping the 28th pick, but haven't heard much concerning the 17th. Since they have more early picks than they know what to do with, perhaps they are looking for a 2012 1st rounder? Who knows?


Well, I'm not inclined to give them our 2012 First rounder for it.


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I Agree. There's not enough "need to have him" tallent around 28 this year. doesn't seem worth it to me either.

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April 10th, 2011, 1:23 pm
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Word has it (and this comes as no surprise to me) that New England is looking to move back from 28, not move up. If the Pats feel the need to move up to 13, then they could trade their 17 and 74 pick and the Lions would give picks 13 and 202, most likely. I don't think NE will look to move up, as there will likely be a player of interest for them at 17, either to play DE (Watt) or to play rush OLB (Aldon Smith, Justin Houston).

New England usually likes to trade back when they are in the bottom 6 to 8 picks in the first round. Usually I think they are fishing for future first round picks plus something else. But I also think they review the talent level projected to be available and compare that to what they'll be paying them, then make a determination as to whether the value of the pick will be better later on in the draft.

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Post Re: Patriots shopping 1st round pick?
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Word has it (and this comes as no surprise to me) that New England is looking to move back from 28, not move up. If the Pats feel the need to move up to 13, then they could trade their 17 and 74 pick and the Lions would give picks 13 and 202, most likely. I don't think NE will look to move up, as there will likely be a player of interest for them at 17, either to play DE (Watt) or to play rush OLB (Aldon Smith, Justin Houston).

New England usually likes to trade back when they are in the bottom 6 to 8 picks in the first round. Usually I think they are fishing for future first round picks plus something else. But I also think they review the talent level projected to be available and compare that to what they'll be paying them, then make a determination as to whether the value of the pick will be better later on in the draft.



This makes a lot more sense and seems to fit the Pats M.O. better. Now one scenario that might be possible, the Lions seem to have a knack for trading back into the tail end of the first to grab a guy they like, could be something to follow as that 28th pick draws near on draft day?

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April 11th, 2011, 9:37 pm
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Detroit would have to trade their 44 and 75 picks to NE for the 28 pick, or they would have to trade 44 and next years 2nd rounder.....I don't see Mayhew doing that unless a player of tremendous quality falls that far. And if one does fall that far, you have to ask yourself "Why?".

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