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NFC North Picks in Rd. 1:
Vikings--OT Matt Kalil and S Harrison Smith
Bears--DE/OLB Shea McClellin
Pack--DE/OLB Nick Perry

If the draft is primarily about keeping up with your division, then I'd say we did pretty well in Rd. 1. Seems like the Bears reached and both they and the Pack took players that might not fit perfectly into their system. Kalil was a nice pick for the Vikes and Smith was a good choice, but neither is going to set the world on fire. Thoughts?

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The Bears Pick was a reach, but let there be no mistake about it, he is going to fit their system very well. Dude is a pass rush specialist, and for a team that doesn't blitz very often, he's going to do them very well oposite of Peppers.

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The Bears Pick was a reach, but let there be no mistake about it, he is going to fit their system very well. Dude is a pass rush specialist, and for a team that doesn't blitz very often, he's going to do them very well oposite of Peppers.


I heard this morning he had 3 concussions in college...

Also, the Chicago sports talking heads are questioning the pick because he seems like he'd be better suited as a 3-4 OLB. Bears GM Emery said yesterday that he originally scouted him for that position at KC.

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hmmmm. I hadn't heard about the concussions....good! gooooooooood! ( the emporer Palapatine came out in me a lil bit! lol)

I had heard that too, but I've also heard is does very well with his hand in the dirt, so as a DE he'll do alright...Unless he goes all Best-like.

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Ranking the NFC North Rd 1:

1. Vikes - top 5 players, 2 positions filled
2. Leos - best value pick of the group
3. Pack - ho hum pick but GB always does well
4. Da Bears - not a fan at all

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I think the Vikes did pretty well for themselves. Kalil will be excellent, and I think Harrison Smith was an undervalued prospect.

Green Bay picked who I thought they would. And I expect Perry to be a very good player.

Chicago reached, big time. The only team that reached worse was Seattle. McClellin is a good football player, but as a down lineman I don't see him being that good right away. It is possible that both Seattle and Chicago could be considering using these guys like Denver used Von Miller, as a pass rushing OLB from the 43 defense.

I'm OK with the Lions pick, but still feel like DeCastro was the better value player. But Reiff has a bit more versatility, and could end up being a PBer in his own right. Most scouts consider him to be better than Bulaga when he was coming out.

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Vikes - Keep ponder upright, and some help for secondary. Just shows how a good pass rush can make a secondary look better than it is. When it was Williams/Williams/Edwards/Allen they were seen as an excellent group.

Pack - solid pick

Lions - BPA on their board. Not sexy, but good pick.

Bears - Remember that Marinelli is the DC. Small is the new big.


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Vikes - Keep ponder upright, and some help for secondary. Just shows how a good pass rush can make a secondary look better than it is. When it was Williams/Williams/Edwards/Allen they were seen as an excellent group.

Pack - solid pick

Lions - BPA on their board. Not sexy, but good pick.

Bears - Remember that Marinelli is the DC. Small is the new big.


I'd give us the value edge over everyone else. I'd give talented added to the Vikes, obviously. I think the Bears screwed up. I like McClellin, but he's more 34 OLB, for sure. I think in a battle between McClellin and Reiff, our boy wins most of the time on the field. Same thing with Perry. Perry is a better prospect as a DE in a 43 than McClellin. At least, that's my opinion.

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m2karateman wrote:
njroar wrote:
Vikes - Keep ponder upright, and some help for secondary. Just shows how a good pass rush can make a secondary look better than it is. When it was Williams/Williams/Edwards/Allen they were seen as an excellent group.

Pack - solid pick

Lions - BPA on their board. Not sexy, but good pick.

Bears - Remember that Marinelli is the DC. Small is the new big.


I'd give us the value edge over everyone else. I'd give talented added to the Vikes, obviously. I think the Bears screwed up. I like McClellin, but he's more 34 OLB, for sure. I think in a battle between McClellin and Reiff, our boy wins most of the time on the field. Same thing with Perry. Perry is a better prospect as a DE in a 43 than McClellin. At least, that's my opinion.


I agree completely.


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Vikings are in the driver seat.

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Resident Bear Fan here.

I wasn't a huge fan of the McClellan pick, but he's not *really* undersized if he's 6'3" and plays at 260. Some say he's kinda like a cross between a KVB and Clay Matthews type. We'll see. These kind of picks always come down to whether they get the rush sacks they're supposed to get... are they like Jared Allen, KVB, etc? Or are they a schmuck like the Bears have drafted before (e.g. Dan Bazine, Michael Haynes).

With the Alshon Jeffrey pick, that has got to be some consternation for NFCN defenses who are used to pushing Devin Hester and Johnny Knox (or Dane Sanzenbacher... lol) around. The Bears new WR chart (Brandon Marshall, Jeffrey, Earl Bennett, Hester, Devin Thomas, Eric Weems) might actually show what Cutler can do with real WRs. That top 3 might be the biggest, strongest WR group in the NFL. Not Megatron ... but making it up with volume? lol

I like the Leos' first pick RR, but the second pick makes absolutely no sense... the guy wasn't BPA or a need - that's a simple GM love affair. Especially if there are needs at LB and DB. I was shocked. I don't know about these 5'10" corners for the Lions, Vikes or Pack ...don't know anything about them, so I won't comment other than to say they better be darn good in the NFCN. The Vikes needed the stud on the OL. I wanted the Bears to draft Harrison Smith - but at least the Bears grabbed the big 6'3 corner (to play S) from Oregon State.

Packers needed the D. I like Worthy better than Perry - by they need them both to help out Raji on the line.

I think so far the NFCN drafts are all pretty decent. I think FA has tilted things toward the Bears in the offseason... quite a bit... but the Pack are still the top dog in the NFCN until proven otherwise.


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Resident Bear Fan here.

I wasn't a huge fan of the McClellan pick, but he's not *really* undersized if he's 6'3" and plays at 260. Some say he's kinda like a cross between a KVB and Clay Matthews type. We'll see. These kind of picks always come down to whether they get the rush sacks they're supposed to get... are they like Jared Allen, KVB, etc? Or are they a schmuck like the Bears have drafted before (e.g. Dan Bazine, Michael Haynes).

With the Alshon Jeffrey pick, that has got to be some consternation for NFCN defenses who are used to pushing Devin Hester and Johnny Knox (or Dane Sanzenbacher... lol) around. The Bears new WR chart (Brandon Marshall, Jeffrey, Earl Bennett, Hester, Devin Thomas, Eric Weems) might actually show what Cutler can do with real WRs. That top 3 might be the biggest, strongest WR group in the NFL. Not Megatron ... but making it up with volume? lol

I like the Leos' first pick RR, but the second pick makes absolutely no sense... the guy wasn't BPA or a need - that's a simple GM love affair. Especially if there are needs at LB and DB. I was shocked. I don't know about these 5'10" corners for the Lions, Vikes or Pack ...don't know anything about them, so I won't comment other than to say they better be darn good in the NFCN. The Vikes needed the stud on the OL. I wanted the Bears to draft Harrison Smith - but at least the Bears grabbed the big 6'3 corner (to play S) from Oregon State.

Packers needed the D. I like Worthy better than Perry - by they need them both to help out Raji on the line.

I think so far the NFCN drafts are all pretty decent. I think FA has tilted things toward the Bears in the offseason... quite a bit... but the Pack are still the top dog in the NFCN until proven otherwise.


I must admit, I think the McClellin pick was a reach, but I think he's a baller. As you said, his size isn't that bad. I was under the impression he was around 6'1" and 250 lbs. The Alshon pick was a really good one where you got him. That's going to change the look of that offense and make it really, really hard to defend against. The third round pick was OK. Big, big safety....but I don't know all that much about him. Does he cover well? Or is he primarily a run stopper? Seems like the latter.

Things are getting really interesting in this division. For all the rants and raves I've heard about the AFC North being a bruising division, I think the NFC North now holds more talent than any other division in football, bar none.

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m2karateman wrote:
Things are getting really interesting in this division. For all the rants and raves I've heard about the AFC North being a bruising division, I think the NFC North now holds more talent than any other division in football, bar none.


I have almost no doubts about this statment. THe NFC North has 3 Playoff calibre teams if theiy dont suffer catastrophic injuries, and when the worst team in the division has dudes like Jared Allen eating QBs and AP Running on you, its a fierce place to play.

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I dont like the Alshon Jeffery pick for the Bears. Good size and ball skills but he ll have a hard time getting open.


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Here's my impression of the NFC North drafts:

Green Bay: Took a lot of defense. Seemed to take more well known players, so they're getting high draft grades even if it's unclear how said players will work out for them.
Bears: Looks like they kinda stunk it up. Maybe it's because their GM didn't have a full offseason to work with, but they seemed to reach quite a bit.
Vikes: Really good draft for them. Good thing they have Ponder as their QB or I might actually be scared of them.
Lions: Mayhew said that we were in the position to take people who don't have to start right away. He meant it. A lot of good players--T. White was the only real head scratcher in terms of talent. I think one of the CBs could be starting by the end of the year, and one or two of the linebackers could be starting in 2013.

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