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CLEVELAND - Hall of Famer Kellen Winslow Sr. said he wished he handled better his tirade at members of the media and their coverage of his son and his injuries, Cleveland's WKYC reported Monday.

"All I ask is that you be fair. And not bring that lack of respect you might have for those individuals, who are competing into your writing," he told WKYC. "Be a reporter. I don't want to hear your opinion."

Winslow said the media is taking his son's injury to a level that is destructive, adding he isn't sure if the media is trying to destroy his son.

The 21-year-old Winslow tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee when he wrecked his high-powered motorcycle May 1 while doing tricks in a secluded parking lot near his home. He will miss all of next season.

Winslow Jr., who missed 14 games as a rookie with a broken right leg, will undergo surgery in the next few weeks.

Two days after a huge blow-up with the media, Winslow Sr. talked exclusively to WKYC and said he feels his son's situation has been overplayed in the media.

Winslow Sr. said he has a deep-rooted resentment for the media, stemming from his own days as a player and his son's days as a college player at Miami. He said the family has been abused by reporters during interviews.

He said he wishes the media would have more respect for the players and the sport itself.

Last week, Winslow Jr. made his first public appearance since his motorcycle crash, and his father used the occasion Friday night to lambaste the media for its coverage of the accident.

Shortly after arriving at an auction and roast celebrating the Browns' 1964 NFL championship team, the former first-round pick, who didn't limp, said he didn't want to talk to waiting reporters.

"No," he said politely. "I'm good."

Kellen Winslow Sr., who drove his son to the event and escorted him into the hotel, initially said he would not comment, either. However, a few hours later, the Hall of Famer changed his mind.

The former San Diego Chargers star angrily accused the media of turning the younger Winslow's accident and recovery into a spectacle.

"I'm disappointed in the way you guys have handled it. Twenty-one-year-old people make mistakes," he said. "He made a mistake. You made it a circus. Remember when you were 21? A human being at 21 makes mistakes. He's not a piece of property."

Winslow Sr. was asked if he expected his son to make a full recovery.

"It's a long career," he said. "I played nine years in the National Football League. Technically, I played six years ? two strikes, two major injuries and I came out OK. We look at it as a long-term career.

"You guys look at it as a moment in time and you blow it out of proportion. This Jerry Springer mentality of journalism, you guys are better than that. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Presidents make mistakes. Senators make mistakes. Journalists, if you still call yourselves that, make mistakes."

As his father was speaking in the hallway, Kellen Winslow Jr. was inside the ballroom listening to a speech by Hall of Fame Browns running back Jim Brown.

Because Winslow Jr. breached a "dangerous activities" clause in his contract by getting hurt while riding a motorcycle, the Browns may try to recoup some of the bonus money they have paid him.



Ever wonder why KW2 is such an idiot? Attribute it to his lineage. Though his father was a great player, he seems to be a flaming idiot as a father. He blames the media for his son's problems, and has the nerve to question their capabilities as journalists. What kind of a father is he? Why didn't he give his son better advice? Why make excuses for your childs behavior, when he should be making changes in his own behavior?

I enjoyed watching Winslow perform with the Chargers. I dread hearing his rants about his son. It mars his reputation from his playing days.

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June 7th, 2005, 12:18 pm
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... Why make excuses for your childs behavior, when he should be making changes in his own behavior?...


M2K,

I couldn't agree more.

I made similar comments the other day in another thread ( http://www.lionbacker.com/forum/viewtop ... 1&start=30 ) and this is the stuff that makes you wonder WTF is wrong with some peoples heads?

It just infuriates me that so many people won't takes responsibility for anything anymore - it's always someone else's fault - they're always the victim.



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... It mars his reputation from his playing days.


Sadly, It does.


June 7th, 2005, 1:01 pm
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Personally, I blame it on all the quack psychologists and pshychiatrists who tell their patients it was something else that made them an idiot, and that it isn't their fault. They do this in order to make their patients feel better and that's what keeps them going back for additional visits. Nobody wants to be told that their problems are their own doing. Well, tough tamales if the truth hurts. Now, all these moronic shrinks and 'counselors' have basically destroyed personal accountability for the most blatant offenders and have given them a very relaxed sense of responsibility for their own actions.

It's really quite sickening to witness the deterioration of personal respectability that is taking place in this country. And people wonder why America's youth are so misguided. They lack a sense of personal honor.

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Psychologists are a pretty mixed profession with many bad apples, but I rather think that the parents are the true enablers of this societal wide narcissism. Their reasons for raising princes/princesses are often more mundane and far more damaging.

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m2karateman wrote:
Personally, I blame it on all the quack psychologists and pshychiatrists who tell their patients it was something else that made them an idiot, and that it isn't their fault. They do this in order to make their patients feel better and that's what keeps them going back for additional visits. Nobody wants to be told that their problems are their own doing. Well, tough tamales if the truth hurts. Now, all these moronic shrinks and 'counselors' have basically destroyed personal accountability for the most blatant offenders and have given them a very relaxed sense of responsibility for their own actions.

It's really quite sickening to witness the deterioration of personal respectability that is taking place in this country. And people wonder why America's youth are so misguided. They lack a sense of personal honor.




M2K,

You can blame it on the "quack psychologists and psychiatrists" if you wish. I'm sure they are a contributing factor. However I don't think they are the biggest culprit - not by a long shot.

I'm sure I'll take some heat for this on this site... but I'm certain that lawyers have more to do with it than anything.

It's their job to find fault and place blame.

I'm old enough to remember the days when lawyers were NOT ALLOWED to advertise on TV. Sometime during the mid 70's they lobbied to get a bill passed so that they could advertise - and it's been downhill ever since.

Get sick and sit around the house watching TV someday and all you hear are ads for 'slip and fall' - 'dog bites' - 'wrongful dismissal' - 'sick newborns' ' car accidents' - etc. It's out of control. Ambulance chasers have conditioned our society to blame everyone else to get a fast buck in court.

It's so twisted that we've got a woman in California who basically offered up her kid to Michael Jackson (a known bone smuggler and pedophile) so that she could win a big settlement in court after he's found guilty (WHICH HE IS) but will probably get off because he's got the cash to hire more lawyers than the state he lives in can.

Right now there's more lawyers in America than there are people in Canada. They are the best movers of wealth our planet has ever seen. And remember Rome fell because of their Senate - they where the lawyers of their day.


June 7th, 2005, 1:49 pm
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actually lionfan57, i think you are on to something. i too would blame lawyers before i would blame the psychologists and pshychiatrists. most of all, lets simply blame the source - kw sr. he just needs to keep his mouth shut.


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Spiderman, Yorick and LF57:

You all make very good points. I suppose I was drawing upon my own personal feelings, as I have had a family member who was a problem that visited a psychologist who went on to say that it wasn't his fault. She blamed everyone but him, but when it came down to it, he didn't change a bit. He was still an idiot.

The true root cause can only be linked to the individual. In the case of KW2, I blame his father more than anyone. Certainly his agents have had a hand in it, as well as some butt kissing coaches in his past.

Truly, it is the individual who must 'step out of his/her skin' and take a subjective, non-biased look at themselves to see where the problem lies. Parents can preach all day to their kids about taking on responsibility for their own actions. However, the acts portrayed by the media, politicians, lawyers, celebrities, other children and often times other parents speak otherwise to their fragile understanding of honorable actions. I have tried to teach my eldest son that he must admit his wrong doings and 'heal thyself' rather than sliding the blame elsewhere. Believe me, it's a tough road to walk down when they simply don't feel that's how things should be and think they are made out of Teflon.

Sad times.....

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