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Post Goodby Deflategate.
Hello Headsetghazi. (The Benghazi scandal was a million times worse than anything that happened in Watergate. So, it is time to start calling scandals fill in the blank ghazi.)


September 11th, 2015, 10:03 am
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BillySims wrote:
Hello Headsetghazi. (The Benghazi scandal was a million times worse than anything that happened in Watergate. So, it is time to start calling scandals fill in the blank ghazi.)


Are you referring to when the NFL's (not the patriots) equipment was malfunctioning and a pats broadcasts was leaking through both team's coaching headsets?

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September 11th, 2015, 2:29 pm
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regularjoe12 wrote:
BillySims wrote:
Hello Headsetghazi. (The Benghazi scandal was a million times worse than anything that happened in Watergate. So, it is time to start calling scandals fill in the blank ghazi.)


Are you referring to when the NFL's (not the patriots) equipment was malfunctioning and a pats broadcasts was leaking through both team's coaching headsets?


The Pats claim it was in theirs too, but it only stopped when officials went to check the Steelers sideline. As soon as they left, it started again. The Patriots never complained during the game and they never had theirs disabled until it was fixed because of it going back to normal when the officials went to check it.

The equipment belongs to the NFL, but the signal isn't controlled by anyone. The technology isn't impervious to outside interference. The same thing has been happening since 2000.


September 11th, 2015, 3:15 pm
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regularjoe12 wrote:
BillySims wrote:
Hello Headsetghazi. (The Benghazi scandal was a million times worse than anything that happened in Watergate. So, it is time to start calling scandals fill in the blank ghazi.)


Are you referring to when the NFL's (not the patriots) equipment was malfunctioning and a pats broadcasts was leaking through both team's coaching headsets?


Yes, if you can't beat them, accuse them of cheating. Tomlinson pretty much accused the Patriots in his post game press conference.


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Post Re: Goodby Deflategate.
BillySims wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
BillySims wrote:
Hello Headsetghazi. (The Benghazi scandal was a million times worse than anything that happened in Watergate. So, it is time to start calling scandals fill in the blank ghazi.)


Are you referring to when the NFL's (not the patriots) equipment was malfunctioning and a pats broadcasts was leaking through both team's coaching headsets?


Yes, if you can't beat them, accuse them of cheating. Tomlinson pretty much accused the Patriots in his post game press conference.


Now that the ESPN report put it out there, you're going to see a lot more coaches and owners speaking up, even if the reporters don't reveal their names. If you followed the NFL network and ESPN reporters last night, they were getting information galore from other teams.

Last night's interference could have been weather, but Tomlin has had the same thing happen all 3 times he's been to Gillette stadium, so he has every right to be suspicious. And when you summon the officials to let them know and it suddenly disappears then starts up when they walk away, like an old 3 stooges episode, you're not going to think it's coincidence. But expect this thing all year. Especially since Brady is playing because of technicalities, not because of innocence. That is going to make teams more willing to speak up.


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There are headset difficulties ever week to every other week in the NFL. Every time it happens it ok to cry cheater? It's happened at ford field several times! Not to mention that both sides were without after Pitt called attention to it makes it a pretty dumb move to do intentional.

For someone within the organization to do this intentionally would take stones bigger than Donald Trump's! With all the scrutiny, with EVERYBODY'S eyes on them right now...HUGE fricken juevos.

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September 11th, 2015, 9:51 pm
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regularjoe12 wrote:
There are headset difficulties ever week to every other week in the NFL. Every time it happens it ok to cry cheater? It's happened at ford field several times! Not to mention that both sides were without after Pitt called attention to it makes it a pretty dumb move to do intentional.

For someone within the organization to do this intentionally would take stones bigger than Donald Trump's! With all the scrutiny, with EVERYBODY'S eyes on them right now...HUGE fricken juevos.


NE was NOT without after Pittsburg called attention to it. The other side is only turned off when they start working on it. But whenever someone came to check, it started working again, so it was never turned off for NE. It fixed itself after halftime.

The league is publicly saying the Pats had nothing to do with it and it was electrical + weather. The investigation, which we know takes awhile, took a day. It just means they have no proof. The NFL isn't equipped to track down someone hacking the signal, so the risk of getting caught is nil. Messing with the headsets was done by Bill Walsh under the guise of gamesmanship back in the 80's. The coach it was done against? Bill Parcels, who mentored Belichik.

And no, not every time it happens is it going to be reason to call someone a cheater. But when it happens every time, it's going to look fishy. Especially since Pittsburg offense got off to a strong start, headsets start going wacky, Pats jump out to 14-0 lead, headsets get better. We know for a fact Brady interfered with the deflate gate investigation. We know for a fact, the team recorded other teams practices for signals. It's not question of IF they're cheating, but how.


September 12th, 2015, 12:19 am
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Post Re: Goodby Deflategate.
This snippet was in the ESPN "deflategate was a makeup call" article, published a day or two before the game:

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At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents' coach-to-quarterback radio line -- "small s---" that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach -- occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches' box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out.


http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... iots-apart


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njroar wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
There are headset difficulties ever week to every other week in the NFL. Every time it happens it ok to cry cheater? It's happened at ford field several times! Not to mention that both sides were without after Pitt called attention to it makes it a pretty dumb move to do intentional.

For someone within the organization to do this intentionally would take stones bigger than Donald Trump's! With all the scrutiny, with EVERYBODY'S eyes on them right now...HUGE fricken juevos.


NE was NOT without after Pittsburg called attention to it. The other side is only turned off when they start working on it. But whenever someone came to check, it started working again, so it was never turned off for NE. It fixed itself after halftime.

The league is publicly saying the Pats had nothing to do with it and it was electrical + weather. The investigation, which we know takes awhile, took a day. It just means they have no proof. The NFL isn't equipped to track down someone hacking the signal, so the risk of getting caught is nil. Messing with the headsets was done by Bill Walsh under the guise of gamesmanship back in the 80's. The coach it was done against? Bill Parcels, who mentored Belichik.

And no, not every time it happens is it going to be reason to call someone a cheater. But when it happens every time, it's going to look fishy. Especially since Pittsburg offense got off to a strong start, headsets start going wacky, Pats jump out to 14-0 lead, headsets get better. We know for a fact Brady interfered with the deflate gate investigation. We know for a fact, the team recorded other teams practices for signals. It's not question of IF they're cheating, but how.


I wasn't in any of the headsets, but the commentators said both headsets had been turned off, while the game was playing. Who's wrong? You or them?


Question, am I the only one here that wants to be reasonable, and not cry cheater every time a piece of trash blows across the field, or worse, blows across the headlines? I'm not saying they are innocent, but I sure as heck ain't going to cry cheater every time a front page accusation comes across, because far too many times they are followed by a last page retraction.

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Post Re: Goodby Deflategate.
regularjoe12 wrote:
njroar wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
There are headset difficulties ever week to every other week in the NFL. Every time it happens it ok to cry cheater? It's happened at ford field several times! Not to mention that both sides were without after Pitt called attention to it makes it a pretty dumb move to do intentional.

For someone within the organization to do this intentionally would take stones bigger than Donald Trump's! With all the scrutiny, with EVERYBODY'S eyes on them right now...HUGE fricken juevos.


NE was NOT without after Pittsburg called attention to it. The other side is only turned off when they start working on it. But whenever someone came to check, it started working again, so it was never turned off for NE. It fixed itself after halftime.

The league is publicly saying the Pats had nothing to do with it and it was electrical + weather. The investigation, which we know takes awhile, took a day. It just means they have no proof. The NFL isn't equipped to track down someone hacking the signal, so the risk of getting caught is nil. Messing with the headsets was done by Bill Walsh under the guise of gamesmanship back in the 80's. The coach it was done against? Bill Parcels, who mentored Belichik.

And no, not every time it happens is it going to be reason to call someone a cheater. But when it happens every time, it's going to look fishy. Especially since Pittsburg offense got off to a strong start, headsets start going wacky, Pats jump out to 14-0 lead, headsets get better. We know for a fact Brady interfered with the deflate gate investigation. We know for a fact, the team recorded other teams practices for signals. It's not question of IF they're cheating, but how.


I wasn't in any of the headsets, but the commentators said both headsets had been turned off, while the game was playing. Who's wrong? You or them?


Question, am I the only one here that wants to be reasonable, and not cry cheater every time a piece of trash blows across the field, or worse, blows across the headlines? I'm not saying they are innocent, but I sure as heck ain't going to cry cheater every time a front page accusation comes across, because far too many times they are followed by a last page retraction.


Al Michaels said both had to be turned off, but it wasn't reported until afterwards that it never was because of the on and off status.

No, it's fine to be reasonable. But this has been happening since 2000, in one way or another. Because they know how to skirt the rules, theres often little to no punishment. It's not a "cry cheater" mentality, it's just a matter of time before they get caught again. The CBA protected Brady.

As for retractions, there has never been a full retraction of the full infraction. Only details, which supporters use to make the entire thing look like a sham, whereas if you're looking at the big picture, it's easy to see how reporters mistakenly put 2 and 2 together to lead to 5.

The best coaches are always going to push the lines. There's nothing wrong with that. But there's a difference between what the Falcons did with stadium noise and apologized and moved on, to the Patriots who paid the fines and draft picks and then called it a witch hunt when the player hid behind a CBA technicality.

Tomlin's reaction was justified though. The radio broadcasters were directly talking to him and the coaches. They found out about the glitch and were taunting them through the first half. And because of what happened over the summer, you're going to see more coaches and owners speak up whenever they face issues when the play the patriots. In today's 24/7 instant news cycle, stories will be told. Just look at Suh's treatment the last few seasons where they called the team dirty, and just imagine it had been happening for 15 years. At that point the stories would have some justification. And that's why when coaches and owners start opening up about the Patriots now, it's going to bring a bigger microscope along with it.


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Post Re: Goodby Deflategate.
At this point, Brady and Belichick should seriously consider retiring. And I'm not joking.


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Blueskies wrote:
At this point, Brady and Belichick should seriously consider retiring. And I'm not joking.



Why? I'm predicting Brady to have an almost MVPesk year. If he plays like I expect, they have a chance to go for Another ring.

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Post Re: Goodby Deflategate.
South Park summarizes Deflategate in 30 seconds. NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rLixuZ1SE


September 22nd, 2015, 2:45 am
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