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I will do this in segments for organization purposes

Verlander Traded: Frankin Perez RHP, Daz Cameron OF, Jake Rogers C, Upton traded for Grayson Long

SP: Fulmer, 24
SP: Mike Fiers, 32, Tigers gave him $6m to see if he can provide 150innings and return to form after 2 year regression. Best case scenario he gets them back a prospect at the deadline.

SP: Boyd, 26, has shown flashes and there is development, could be an average back end starter.
SP: Zimmerman, 31, (under contract for 2018-2020 for $74m)
SP: Norris, 24, rough year for him wonder if he ll ever put it together. Still has time, could be a No 3 starter.

AAA: Farmer, 26, has some upside and can miss bats. Back end of rotation or possibly ends up in relief.
AAA: VerHagen, 26, may become a middle relief or long option out of pen for a couple years. Not likely a viable big league starter.

AA: Franklin Perez, 20, Top prospect in Verlander trade. Many have him as Tigers top prospect. Figures to start in AA, possibly AAA this year. Frontline starter.
AA: Beau Burrows, 20. 1st round pick out of HS progressing nicely. Very good in High-A now in AA. Needs a full year in AA, and AAA. See him in 2019 maybe.
AA: Artie Lewicki, 25, Steadily progressing. Probably makes it to AAA in 2018. If he stays consistent could get a chance in the bigs but not hyped.
AA: Tyler Alexander, 23, progressed quickly as a 2nd rd pick in 2015 but has met his match in AA this year. Stock dropped off this season needs another AA year.
AA: Grayson Long, 23, acquired in Upton trade. Big righty with 3 solid pitches who s been missing bats but isnt overwhelming with velocity. High floor. Could start in AAA this year

A: Kyle Funkhouser, 23, dominated FSL in short intro but missed time to injury. Has big upside but cant rush him.
A: Matt Hall, 24, 6th rd lefty having a big year in Lakeland, ready to go up a level.
A: Sandy Baez, 23, Has had some big strikeout games and is on the 40 man roster. May be a guy to watch with a fastball consistently mid 90s and hits 99.
A: Spencer Turnbull, 24, 2nd rounder who s a little behind bc of injuries. Ground ball pitcher.
A: Austin Sodders, 22, lefty doing very well in A ball. May have a chance out of the pen down the road.
A: Gregory Soto, 22, boom or bust lefty with control issues.
A: Alfred Gutierrez, 22, standing out at West Michigan.
A: Matt Manning, 19, last years 1st rounder has big upside but is a project, just got called up to Grand Rapids
Rookie: Alex Faedo, 21 being projected as one of tigers better recent picks, taking the summer off after CWS run. Could move quick.

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August 6th, 2017, 12:19 am
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Post Re: Tigers rebuild?
Just looking at the SP situation - the Tigers do have some pieces but the best front line rotation prospects are mostly in the lower levels and have a ways to go.

There will be attrition which makes you wonder about the strategy Al Avila and ownership are employing. It looks like they have enough prospects where they could ve maybe landed someone like Sonny Gray and gotten into contention more quickly and kept the team more stable than it will be waiting on prospects to arrive

On the other hand it sounds like there are money issues and current ownership not willing to keep running with this level of operating costs. Sanchez' deal will fall off and so will Pelfrey's so that helps but they just handed Zimmerman maybe the worst contract in team history one offseason ago. Gotta wonder how they figured they werent willing to keep Scherzer but turned around and paid more combined for Zimmerman and Pelfrey but got peanuts back as far as performance goes. Pretty disappointing how that all turned out.

Anyway, its hard to see the guys at A and AA making it up and being solid during Verlander s current contract so its really more of a 3-4 year plan with developing those guys and building around Fulmer. Buck Farmer, Drew Verhagen and cheap veteran retreads may get quite a few chances the next couple of seasons. If the Tigers are going to win next season, Norris and Boyd are going to have to really progress and consistently pitch deeper into games and one of them probably Norris has to start becoming the No2-3 starter he s supposed to be. Possibly Funkhouser or Faedo could move up quickly but I think thats less likely.

August 6th, 2017, 12:47 am
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Really nice run down of the pitching.

I see the Tigers just put Ian Kinsler on revocable waivers today. I wonder if some team has offered a trade for him.

IMO, the single biggest thing the Tigers need to do this off season: GET MIGGY's MOM AND SIBLINGS OUT OF VENEZUELA!!!

Muggy has been warned that if he goes back to Venezuela, he will be killed. He has also been having to pay protection money so that his mom won't be kidnapped or killed.
He is not alone. Other Venezuelan players are going through it too.
And almost all of them are having the worst seasons of their careers.

August 9th, 2017, 11:35 pm
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Post Re: Tigers rebuild?
Tigers traded Justin Upton and Justin Verlander in separate deals yesterday.

Traded Upton to to the Angels earlier in the day. I was glad to see his contract go.

Verlander, on the other hand, I shed a tear or two for when I awoke this morning to the news that his trade came as a buzzer beater. I didn't want you o see him go.

I am left wondering if Dumbrowski would have gotten more for all three Justins and JD than Avila did? Somehow, even though I didn't like some of his trades, I think Dumbrowski would have gotten more in return. The trade deadline is a time when GM's from contending teams lose their sanity. And Dumbrowski had a knack for getting that extra prospect or that higher ceiling prospect. On the flip side, he gave away too much at the deadline when it came to him losing his sanity.

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