LionsFan54 wrote:
Weaver wont come cheap because the market is so thin. Somebody (hopefully nto the Tigers) is gonna overpay for the guy and i see him as a gamble.
The Mags for Manny trade straight up would never happen. Maybe Maggs, Pena, AND Zumaya would make Boston even think a little bit. He is a top notch player that wouldn't come cheap.
Hmmm... I don't doubt you but I would like to make some points...
Weaver has really struggled since leaving the Tigers and hasn't looked the same since. IMO the Dodgers gave him his "2nd chance" to be a top-notch pitcher, and he blew it again. His ERA is simply "average" and his WL record has been around .500. Even as a former Tiger I would be reluctant to pay a high dollar figure for him, as all signs point to him being an average player at best. Still, having played his best years and shown his greatest improvement under Cluck, couple with the warm confines of Copo and the warm fan receptions he gets here, I think him coming back to Det. is far from a stretch. His biggest obsticle may be the # of young pitching talent we have in our farm systems. Dombrowski has said that he wants to leave a roster spot open for a rotation of younger pitchers coming up to the Majors to audition.
Regarding Manny... If memory serves me right we could have had him last year off of waivers when all of his controversey hit. From what I understand Boston simply wants to unload him for w/e they can get. I think they would take Mags in a heart beat. Honestly, it is Dombrowski that I fear wouldn't make the move... and perhaps with good reason. There is no doubt that Manny is a firecracker and can be a cancer in the locker-room. Maybe I'm wrong for even wanting him. But with what he can bring to our offense, and what we've added to our pitching staff I think Manny would make us SERIOUS contenders in our division, even with Chicago sitting on top of it. I think we need a strong willed player with a strong personality that simply refuses to take losing lightly. It seems that losing has become the norm in the Tiger's organization over the last 5-10 years and we've become comfortable with it. Manny isn't... Manny provides a great deal of energy in the dugout that can sometimes be bad... In any event I would welcome him and all the energy and offense he brings with him.