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McCoy is moving up the draft boards still...

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+1 for McCoy.

Althought I have noticed a trend that although the board leans heavily towards Suh, almost every single person also said they would not be dissapointed with McCoy.

I think they truly are 1a/1b.


And I still hope we trade down.


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Lions' Jim Schwartz: Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy compares to draft darling Ndamukong Suh
By Tom Kowalski
April 11, 2010, 8:00AM
This is the first segment of a 12-part series on the NFL draft and some of the prospects the Detroit Lions will consider in the top three rounds. Today: Gerald McCoy. Monday: Jahvid Best.

ALLEN PARK -- If it's possible to be one of the top three picks in the NFL draft and an invisible man, Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy is pulling it off.

McCoy, a talented and versatile defensive tackle, is being overshadowed by media darling Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska's brilliant defensive tackle. The Detroit Lions have the No. 2 overall pick in the April 22 draft, and coach Jim Schwartz said there really is no discernible difference between the two players.

"They were asked to do different things," said Schwartz, adding that Suh would have been successful with Oklahoma's attacking style and McCoy would have prospered in Nebraska's two-gap defense. "You look for different characteristics, and I think both of those guys fit what we're looking for, and I think both of them would do well in what we would ask them to do."

The kind of defense the Lions want to employ -- play the run on the way to the quarterback -- is much closer to the kind of scheme McCoy played at Oklahoma.

McCoy said he has played that aggressive style since he attended an Oklahoma football camp during his high school days.

"With us penetrating, we're more disruptors," McCoy said at the NFL's scouting combine. "We disrupt the play and make sure it doesn't get past the line of scrimmage."

McCoy said he and Suh know how closely they are linked and that they have enjoyed a friendly rivalry.

"We're real good friends," McCoy said. "Everybody is expecting us to be bumping heads. The day we met, we met on the field and he said, 'Go out there and ball out, go get that money.' I said the same thing to him, and it's been like that ever since."

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have the third overall pick and are expected to take Suh or McCoy, perhaps the player who is left after Detroit's selection.

"You're talking about two dynamic guys and two guys who bring dynamic aspects to the game," Bucs coach Raheem Morris said. "You're talking about two guys who are slightly different but are both dominant. They were asked to do two different things.

"(McCoy) might have the (run-stopping) power that Suh has, but he's just not asked to do it."

There have been questions about whether defensive tackle is a position that has enough impact to be worthy of a high pick. The St. Louis Rams have the first overall choice and are expected to take Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, but they have not ruled out Suh or McCoy.

"I think you can justify any position -- almost any position -- if you feel like that person is going to be enough of an impact on your team in the first year," Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "I remember in Philly in the 2000 draft, we somehow ended up with the sixth pick and took (defensive tackle) Corey Simon. Corey came in and started the first game and got a sack on his very first play of the game. I think he made a difference."

While Suh seems to get the nod over McCoy in the court of public opinion, when coaches talk about the best defensive tackle in the draft, they don't separate the two.

"Both guys are really, really impressive," Spagnuolo said.

I still prefer Suh over McCoy because of his brute strength, but I can see why some people feel otherwise.

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wjb21ndtown wrote:
Pablo wrote:
I'd take Suh over McCoy no question. Suh has the intangible quality that is hard to quantify but I'd call it an awareness.

What I like about McCoy is that he is very quick off the ball, always seems to penetrate the line of scrimmage.

I think if Suh goes you have to consider a number of possibilities including OT (Okung, Williams), DE (Morgan) and S (Berry). I think Okung and Morgan should get a long look here.


I think that Suh has the bigger potential to bust when compared to McCoy. Suh isn't that big, and he doesn't have the prototypical body of an NFL DT. I think his best use may come as a 3-4 DE, which is a position that we really don't have much use for. I think that Suh has the potential to get bullied and beat up by NFL OG's (who are much larger than college OG's). I really don't think that Suh is the sure-fire NFL pro-bowl caliber player that everyone is making him out to be...


WJB - after watching him for 4 games I hope you have come around.

There were some debates around here, Suh vs. McCoy and just like in college Suh's is much more productive...

Suh = 13 tackles, 3 sacks
McCoy = 3 tackles, 0 sacks

Well done Schwartz, Mayhew and company...

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wjb21ndtown wrote:
Pablo wrote:
I'd take Suh over McCoy no question. Suh has the intangible quality that is hard to quantify but I'd call it an awareness.

What I like about McCoy is that he is very quick off the ball, always seems to penetrate the line of scrimmage.

I think if Suh goes you have to consider a number of possibilities including OT (Okung, Williams), DE (Morgan) and S (Berry). I think Okung and Morgan should get a long look here.


I think that Suh has the bigger potential to bust when compared to McCoy. Suh isn't that big, and he doesn't have the prototypical body of an NFL DT. I think his best use may come as a 3-4 DE, which is a position that we really don't have much use for. I think that Suh has the potential to get bullied and beat up by NFL OG's (who are much larger than college OG's). I really don't think that Suh is the sure-fire NFL pro-bowl caliber player that everyone is making him out to be...


WJB - after watching him for 4 games I hope you have come around.

There were some debates around here, Suh vs. McCoy and just like in college Suh's is much more productive...

Suh = 13 tackles, 3 sacks
McCoy = 3 tackles, 0 sacks

Well done Schwartz, Mayhew and company...


I like what Suh has done so far, but I don't think the stats tell the whole tale. I haven't watched McCoy play, at all, but 2 of Suhs sacks are "anyone could be there" sacks. The play where (I think it was) Orton ran out of bounds was for a 1 yard loss, and should have and could have been thrown away. Last week or the week before someone blew a blocking assignment and he came clean through, untouched. He didn't really do anything for either of those plays.

That said, I do like that he's been able to do more than hold his own when 1-1 with an OG, and he's looked impressive against the run. However, I have to say, that I have NOT liked what I have seen out of his character so far... I wish he would just shut up and play the game, and play it clean...


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Attitude?

So he wants to kill quarterbacks. Whats wrong with that?

Personally, i love that attitude.


No offense, but you just cant please some Lions fans.

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Attitude?

So he wants to kill quarterbacks. Whats wrong with that?

Personally, i love that attitude.


No offense, but you just cant please some Lions fans.


I also have on good authority that he said he wants the Lions to win their remaining home games. I think the money must've gone to his head.

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thelomasbrowns wrote:
kdsberman wrote:
Attitude?

So he wants to kill quarterbacks. Whats wrong with that?

Personally, i love that attitude.


No offense, but you just cant please some Lions fans.


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I also have on good authority that he said he wants the Lions to win their remaining home games.


I think that everyone in the Detroit Lions organization wants this as well. What's your point?

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Footsoldier32 wrote:
thelomasbrowns wrote:
kdsberman wrote:
Attitude?

So he wants to kill quarterbacks. Whats wrong with that?

Personally, i love that attitude.


No offense, but you just cant please some Lions fans.


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I also have on good authority that he said he wants the Lions to win their remaining home games.


I think that everyone in the Detroit Lions organization wants this as well. What's your point?


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