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The half a dozen drive killing drops didn't help D-Rob at all either. Apparently nobody could catch the ball and had Roy Williams disease.

I didn't think Greg Jones looked anywhere near a first rounder either yesterday. He got blown up by the OGs and the C on numerous plays.

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Rich Rod is an offensive specialist who was brought in to install his spread-option and change Michigan football. What did you expect, Sly? Him to recruit defensive players?

The majority of Michigan's recruits for next year will be on defense. Although we did just get our (potentially) Steve Slaton.

As for last Saturday: Denard had a bad game. It happens. And if you have no D to compensate, you will lose. I still fully expect Michigan to win 8 this year.

I tip my hat to the Spartans. I cheer for Michigan State basketball, because as all true wolverines know, this isn't really even a rivalry. More of a one-way street, bitterness left over from college rejection letters.

State has arguably the best football team they've had in 20 years. I fully expect them to share the big 10 title this year.


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New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.

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October 14th, 2010, 12:05 pm
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New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.

Honestly I could see them giving him another year to work on the defense, but only IF the offense continues to produce to way it has.

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October 14th, 2010, 12:08 pm
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New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.


I can't stand the "this ain't UofM football" argument. We brought the guy in here to redefine UofM football, don't criticize him for having different schemes.

5-1 is hardly a disastrous year. Lets see how this season goes before we write the guy off. If we make a game out of the OSU game, win two more games, and look good in a bowl game. I'd call that worthwhile progress. We're not losing many players and we should be better next year. Why toss the guy to the curb when things are looking up?


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thelomasbrowns wrote:
New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.


I can't stand the "this ain't UofM football" argument. We brought the guy in here to redefine UofM football, don't criticize him for having different schemes.

5-1 is hardly a disastrous year. Lets see how this season goes before we write the guy off. If we make a game out of the OSU game, win two more games, and look good in a bowl game. I'd call that worthwhile progress. We're not losing many players and we should be better next year. Why toss the guy to the curb when things are looking up?


Because a lot of us didn't think the wheel needed to be reinvented. It just needed an alignment and more aggressive tread.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
thelomasbrowns wrote:
New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.


I can't stand the "this ain't UofM football" argument. We brought the guy in here to redefine UofM football, don't criticize him for having different schemes.

5-1 is hardly a disastrous year. Lets see how this season goes before we write the guy off. If we make a game out of the OSU game, win two more games, and look good in a bowl game. I'd call that worthwhile progress. We're not losing many players and we should be better next year. Why toss the guy to the curb when things are looking up?


Because a lot of us didn't think the wheel needed to be reinvented. It just needed an alignment and more aggressive tread.


That's fine, but the powers to be thought that major changes needed to be made. RR was brought here to re-invent UofM's offense, and he did just that. Don't bash him for doing what he does, if you want to bash anyone bash the AD.


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That's fine, but the powers to be thought that major changes needed to be made. RR was brought here to re-invent UofM's offense, and he did just that. Don't bash him for doing what he does, if you want to bash anyone bash the AD.


Exactly, I not only want RR gone, I want the dork who hired him gone too. Oh, that's right, He screwed the football program and then retired.


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BillySims wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
thelomasbrowns wrote:
New AD + coach who has a disastrous three years= new coach. The boosters simply won't stand for it, and the university certainly can't afford to have the program fall into disrepute. Couldn't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned--this ain't UofM football.


I can't stand the "this ain't UofM football" argument. We brought the guy in here to redefine UofM football, don't criticize him for having different schemes.

5-1 is hardly a disastrous year. Lets see how this season goes before we write the guy off. If we make a game out of the OSU game, win two more games, and look good in a bowl game. I'd call that worthwhile progress. We're not losing many players and we should be better next year. Why toss the guy to the curb when things are looking up?


Because a lot of us didn't think the wheel needed to be reinvented. It just needed an alignment and more aggressive tread.


Amen! 40 years of Bo and his disciples served us well. When you have a strong tradition like that, why throw it away?

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wjb21ndtown wrote:
That's fine, but the powers to be thought that major changes needed to be made. RR was brought here to re-invent UofM's offense, and he did just that. Don't bash him for doing what he does, if you want to bash anyone bash the AD.


Exactly, I not only want RR gone, I want the dork who hired him gone too. Oh, that's right, He screwed the football program and then retired.


I don't mind criticizing Martin, I think he was terrible. He honestly seemed to care more about getting a new woman's softball field than keeping up the football program.


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Amen! 40 years of Bo and his disciples served us well. When you have a strong tradition like that, why throw it away?


And exactly how many National Championship teams did Bo and his disciples get us in those 40 years? 1 (technically HALF of one, lol), now personally for the winningest program in college football...that's simply not acceptable I don't get this Bo worship from Michigan fans, horrible bowl record, never won a National Title...I don't want a return to what Bo and his disciples did, I'd rather have a return to what Yost did personally :lol: .

As far as the new systems I have no problem with the Spread Option (or any variation of the spread) in the Big 10, Actually I think if executed correctly with the right personel the spread would destroy Big 10 defenses (which we've already seen happen on several occasions). That 3-3-5 crap has to go though, pathetic defense.


October 14th, 2010, 11:57 pm
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Did you guys forget the 3-7 record vs OSU post-championship season? The fact that, for most of the last 10 years, the big 10 has been one of the worst major conferences in college football and most of Michigan's wins have been against these garbage teams? The loss to 1AA App State or the blowout loss to Oregon the week afterwards?

Michigan football has been mediocre at best after the 97' season. A major overhaul was needed.

Now, if you fire Rich Rod after this season (who, so far, has only lost to the probably 2nd best team in the conference) who are you going to replace him with?

Jim Harbaugh? Who says he even comes here. Maybe he'll go to the NFL with his brother. Maybe he'll stay at Stanford or a different major college program. Did you forget that, the year the coaching search was going on, he badmouthed Michigan's program?

Seriously, who are you going to replace Rich Rod with? And why do you think they'll be so much better? And what are you going to do with Denard, and all these smaller RB/WR tweeners and thinner Olineman?


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Did you guys forget the 3-7 record vs OSU post-championship season? The fact that, for most of the last 10 years, the big 10 has been one of the worst major conferences in college football and most of Michigan's wins have been against these garbage teams? The loss to 1AA App State or the blowout loss to Oregon the week afterwards?

Michigan football has been mediocre at best after the 97' season. A major overhaul was needed.

Now, if you fire Rich Rod after this season (who, so far, has only lost to the probably 2nd best team in the conference) who are you going to replace him with?

Jim Harbaugh? Who says he even comes here. Maybe he'll go to the NFL with his brother. Maybe he'll stay at Stanford or a different major college program. Did you forget that, the year the coaching search was going on, he badmouthed Michigan's program?

Seriously, who are you going to replace Rich Rod with? And why do you think they'll be so much better? And what are you going to do with Denard, and all these smaller RB/WR tweeners and thinner Olineman?



You play those small schools, you risk an embarrassing loss like App St. Just ask MSU about CMU X3.

Jim Harbaugh only criticized the Wolverine program AFTER they threw their tradition in the toilet. And yes, he would jump at becoming the next HC of the Wolverines. There was nothing wrong with our program that a killer instinct couldn't have fixed.

But, Martin threw the baby out with the bathwater. And RichRod has disgraced our, once unblemished, record with an NCAA investigation in only his 2nd year. That's NOT PROGRESS :!: That is, by itself, grounds to fire him immediately, if not sooner.


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You play those small schools, you risk an embarrassing loss like App St. Just ask MSU about CMU X3.


Sure ask us, CMU was a hell of a lot better team than Michigan in some of those years and we would have been much more embared to lose to the Wolverines than the Chips.

And how dare you compare MSU losing to CMU to Michigan losing to App State.

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You play those small schools, you risk an embarrassing loss like App St. Just ask MSU about CMU X3.


Sure ask us, CMU was a hell of a lot better team than Michigan in some of those years and we would have been much more embared to lose to the Wolverines than the Chips.

And how dare you compare MSU losing to CMU to Michigan losing to App State.

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I was more so ripping Lloyd Carr, (Yes, the head coach determines how strong of non-conference competition his team faces.), for scheduling "Patsies" than comparing MSU. The CMU thing was just to prove that it does happen from time to time.


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