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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
Clearly that was a joke Pablo, just a reference to the ideals that are being put across here. If we are going to go "well they get more than most students" we are saying screw capitolism, forget getting what you earn.

As well, the argument is that they are "just amature atheletes" is silly because that is the argument I am contending is the issue... maybe shouldn't be amature athletes as they no longer represent an amature sport but rather a VERY lucrative business.

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September 13th, 2011, 2:59 pm
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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
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Clearly that was a joke Pablo, just a reference to the ideals that are being put across here. If we are going to go "well they get more than most students" we are saying screw capitolism, forget getting what you earn.

As well, the argument is that they are "just amature atheletes" is silly because that is the argument I am contending is the issue... maybe shouldn't be amature athletes as they no longer represent an amature sport but rather a VERY lucrative business.


First, you are trying to mix capitalism with Universities - not a real good idea to start with since they tend to be such socialistic leaning institutions. Second, have you seen capitalism at work - they is plenty of explotation going on, not just with student athletes.

Finally, paying players solves what exactly? You think the bosters then go away and don't try to give their school an edge? This is a big ole can of worms that I don't want to open. The problems this would cause would FAR outweigh any perceived benefits.

These student athletes gladly exchange their "work" for a free education. If it is such a raw deal, then don't do it and see how many folks are standing in line waiting to take their place.

You really try to spin it like these kids are getting totally screwed, that couldn't be further from the truth. These are, in fact, some of the luckiest kids alive that have been blessed with great speed, agility, power, etc., and live in a country where they can get the best education in the world for free. Poor kids, it is so unfair - what a joke!

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
I'm not trying to spin like they are getting totally screwed, I'm presenting the facts that show why maybe some of these kids a little to pay for some stuff. Most of them are not taking hundreds of thousands of dollars, they are taking $100-$1,000. That context helps make things make sense a little.

My only point on the communism jab was to point out the hypocrisy of this discussion. Everyone loves them some capitol... unless they think someone else is fairly compensated so they shouldn't make more. The fact is, the many players are putting their bodies on the line and making the university significantly more money than they recieve back. Let's not get distracted with all these other nuances, facts are, they are worth more than they get paid. A little spending money wouldn't ruin anything.

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September 14th, 2011, 9:05 am
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An Ohio State booster has accepted responsibility for the payments three Buckeyes players received at a charity event earlier this year.
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Robert "Bobby" DiGeronimo told The Columbus Dispatch that he played a key role in the $200 payments given to Jordan Hall, Travis Howard and Corey Brown. The payments took place at a Feb. 19 fundraiser for a charity run by DiGeronimo's son-in-law.

Hall, Howard and Brown were suspended for Ohio State's first two games before being reinstated Tuesday by the NCAA. They are eligible to play Saturday against Miami.

DiGeronimo told The Dispatch that former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor provided the money to his teammates, adding that the payments were reimbursement for travel expenses to the event.

"However Mr. Pryor got the money, I take responsibility," DiGeronimo told the newspaper. "I am responsible for those kids coming up here from Columbus. I handled it wrong. I should not have handled it the way I did."

DiGeronimo, who cooperated with the NCAA during its investigation, said no one from the charity organization knew about the payments. Two other Ohio State players who attended the event said they didn't receive payments.

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
It is a interesting situation for sure...

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
More details today:

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DiGeronimo later told The Dispatch and the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer that players had never been paid in the past for attending the event and that the money came from a local businessman he declined to identify. The payments, DiGeronimo told the newspaper, were not discussed with the players in advance. He also told the Plain Dealer that he has also provided summer jobs to Ohio State football and basketball players during his 30-year involvement with the athletic program. Under NCAA rules, that is not a violation as long as the players actually work and are paid the going rate.

DiGeronimo, who cooperated with the NCAA during its investigation, said no one from the charity organization knew about the payments. Two other Ohio State players who attended the event said they didn't receive payments.

DiGeronimo told The Dispatch he expects to be banned from the program.


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September 15th, 2011, 10:11 am
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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
Is he another martyr falling on his sword? If he's a 30 year booster he should know that something this minor could get him in trouble.

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
He is a booster... and you can read whatever you want into it but it seems that his story checks out. Only three of the 5 players got any money so if they were all promised money to come why did only 3 get paid?

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
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An Ohio State booster has accepted responsibility for the payments three Buckeyes players received at a charity event earlier this year.
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Robert "Bobby" DiGeronimo told The Columbus Dispatch that he played a key role in the $200 payments given to Jordan Hall, Travis Howard and Corey Brown. The payments took place at a Feb. 19 fundraiser for a charity run by DiGeronimo's son-in-law.

Hall, Howard and Brown were suspended for Ohio State's first two games before being reinstated Tuesday by the NCAA. They are eligible to play Saturday against Miami.

DiGeronimo told The Dispatch that former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor provided the money to his teammates, adding that the payments were reimbursement for travel expenses to the event.

"However Mr. Pryor got the money, I take responsibility," DiGeronimo told the newspaper. "I am responsible for those kids coming up here from Columbus. I handled it wrong. I should not have handled it the way I did."

DiGeronimo, who cooperated with the NCAA during its investigation, said no one from the charity organization knew about the payments. Two other Ohio State players who attended the event said they didn't receive payments.

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It appears Pryor was the bagman. Just a complete waste of space.

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September 15th, 2011, 4:52 pm
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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
What did he do wrong? What actually happened? You don't know... but you are willing to believe anything even after the last round of wrongdoings you believed have been proven nonsense...

I guess people don't learn from their mistakes. Thry shut up for a while... then come back with the same nonsense.

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
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DiGeronimo told The Dispatch that former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor provided the money to his teammates


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DiGeronimo later told The Dispatch and the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer that players had never been paid in the past for attending the event and that the money came from a local businessman he declined to identify.


That's the issue. You can't take him at his word, because both days he said something different. Unreliable witness, therefore there will be a deeper investigation.


September 15th, 2011, 7:27 pm
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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
Again, njroar... do you ever get the details? He said Pryor GOT the money to give to them from the local businessman.

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However, DiGeronimo would not admit to having provided the money himself nor describe how Pryor had obtained it.

"However the money got there ... it did not come from Cornerstone," DiGeronimo told the Dispatch. "However Mr. Pryor got the money, I take responsibility. I am responsible for those kids coming up here from Columbus. I handled it wrong. I should not have handled it the way I did."


NCAA is looking into this.

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
Who has had the most players drafted to the NFL since 2000?

Answer, Ohio State

Who has had the most first rounders since 2000?

Answer, Miami with 25! Second most is OSU with 13.

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Post Re: OSU, Tressel & Pryor - NCAA Violations: Fact or Fiction?
Well that game looked about like I expected... D did enough to allow win but the offense couldn't put it together. Braxton is just a little green and Bauserman sucks... I say let Braxton run and prep for next year.

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While I like Fickle, he is NOT a head coach at this point in time...

He let the clock run out with no attempt to save time. He abandoned the up the gut running game that was killing them... just not good.

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