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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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The Board has to get rid of any associated parties, today. They can't have Paterno or McQueary on the sidelines for the game this coming weekend, let alone future games. Why? Because there is a strong chance that someone in the crowd will take the chance of attacking them, throwing something at them, shooting them, whatever....and others may get hurt in the process. No doubt additional security will be there, but that's not enough. They have to diffuse the possibility of such a situation, and the only way to do that is to force JoePa and others to not be in the stadium.
Those members who failed to report this are likely to face criminal charges. Paterno did report what he said he knew to the AD, but it didn't go anywhere from there. He had a moral obligation to follow up on the investigation to find out if Sandusky was guilty.
This is only going to get worse. More victims are coming forward, and I'm sure there will be more people associated to this who knew something was going on that needed to be reported to the police, but failed to do so in a pretty sad act to "protect" the university and Joe Paterno.
As was said before, no thought given to the victims or their families. Anyone associated to this should be jailed.....and suffer all the pains that come with it, if you get my meaning.
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| November 9th, 2011, 6:45 pm |
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thelomasbrowns
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 1869
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BillySims wrote: What an amazingly sad and filthy blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. This is more than just a blemish...
_________________ "Who we are on the field are the bad guys. ... We're the ones that nobody wants to see succeed, and we like it that way. We play better that way." -Nate Burleson
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| November 9th, 2011, 9:40 pm |
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Touchdown Jesus
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: August 21st, 2005, 3:36 am Posts: 2842 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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thelomasbrowns wrote: BillySims wrote: What an amazingly sad and filthy blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. This is more than just a blemish... Agreed. This fundamentally changes my opinion of Paterno. He allowed a child rapist to be part of his organization for over a decade after he knew about it. That makes him an accomplice to child rape. there is absolutely, without question, no excuse. None.
_________________ "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams
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If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one.
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| November 9th, 2011, 9:50 pm |
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BillySims
PHAT Nike Contract
Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 6493 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
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Touchdown Jesus wrote: thelomasbrowns wrote: BillySims wrote: What an amazingly sad and filthy blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. This is more than just a blemish... Agreed. This fundamentally changes my opinion of Paterno. He allowed a child rapist to be part of his organization for over a decade after he knew about it. That makes him an accomplice to child rape. there is absolutely, without question, no excuse. None. Apparently you two missed the AMAZINGLY SAD AND FILTHY part. Sad as in pathetic. As in why the heck didn't JoPa get rid of that deusche bag immediately? Filthy as in, the sodomist should be strung up by his Balls and used as a pinyatta. When everyone has had a whack, he should then be disemboweled.
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| November 9th, 2011, 10:05 pm |
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Touchdown Jesus
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: August 21st, 2005, 3:36 am Posts: 2842 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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BillySims wrote: Touchdown Jesus wrote: thelomasbrowns wrote: BillySims wrote: What an amazingly sad and filthy blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. This is more than just a blemish... Agreed. This fundamentally changes my opinion of Paterno. He allowed a child rapist to be part of his organization for over a decade after he knew about it. That makes him an accomplice to child rape. there is absolutely, without question, no excuse. None. Apparently you two missed the AMAZINGLY SAD AND FILTHY part. Sad as in pathetic. As in why the heck didn't JoPa get rid of that deusche bag immediately? Filthy as in, the sodomist should be strung up by his Balls and used as a pinyatta. When everyone has had a whack, he should then be disemboweled. Sorry. Didn't mean any animosity towards you. I'm just disgusted and angered by this whole situation.
_________________ "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams
http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Things ... _Do_Anyway
LET'S GO DUKE!
If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one.
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| November 9th, 2011, 10:43 pm |
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slybri19
Commissioner of the NFL – Roger Goodell
Joined: August 7th, 2004, 4:47 am Posts: 10738 Location: Sterling Heights, MI
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They finally did what needed to be done IMO: AP wrote: PSU trustees fire Paterno, Spanier By GENARO C. ARMAS, AP
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.
The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.
But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower.
Paterno says he should have done more. Spanier has said he was not told the details of the attack.
Sandusky has denied the charges.
Rodney Erickson will serve as interim school president, and defensive coordinator Tom Bradley as interim coach.
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| November 10th, 2011, 12:42 am |
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thelomasbrowns
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 1869
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BillySims wrote: Touchdown Jesus wrote: thelomasbrowns wrote: BillySims wrote: What an amazingly sad and filthy blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. This is more than just a blemish... Agreed. This fundamentally changes my opinion of Paterno. He allowed a child rapist to be part of his organization for over a decade after he knew about it. That makes him an accomplice to child rape. there is absolutely, without question, no excuse. None. Apparently you two missed the AMAZINGLY SAD AND FILTHY part. Sad as in pathetic. As in why the heck didn't JoPa get rid of that deusche bag immediately? Filthy as in, the sodomist should be strung up by his Balls and used as a pinyatta. When everyone has had a whack, he should then be disemboweled. I'm just saying, when it's gone on for more than a decade, it's not accurate to paint is as a nasty episode at the end of an illustrious career. This was covered up for too long and too many people were irrevocably hurt.
_________________ "Who we are on the field are the bad guys. ... We're the ones that nobody wants to see succeed, and we like it that way. We play better that way." -Nate Burleson
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| November 10th, 2011, 12:43 am |
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fetumpsh
Junior Varsity
Joined: January 24th, 2006, 8:52 pm Posts: 180 Location: Chicago
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slybri19 wrote: They finally did what needed to be done IMO: AP wrote: PSU trustees fire Paterno, Spanier By GENARO C. ARMAS, AP
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.
The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.
But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower.
Paterno says he should have done more. Spanier has said he was not told the details of the attack.
Sandusky has denied the charges.
Rodney Erickson will serve as interim school president, and defensive coordinator Tom Bradley as interim coach.
Working late tonight, so I hadn't seen this yet. Good. I usually like to see a trial before definitive conclusions are reached, but Joe and the rest of them have already conceded everything that needed to be known for this action. Despicable, all of it. And being a father adds another level of horror for me.
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| November 10th, 2011, 1:18 am |
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Lions2SB2
1st Round Pick
Joined: May 8th, 2010, 4:25 pm Posts: 1292 Location: Cloudy Town, Minnesota. 763.18 miles from Ford Field
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And the riots are going on campus. This is crazy, and anyone else think something bad may happen on Saturday? PSU is gonna look like hell after Saturday.
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| November 10th, 2011, 2:11 am |
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WarEr4Christ
Player of the Year - Defense
Joined: October 26th, 2005, 11:48 pm Posts: 2760 Location: Elkhart, In.
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However, I have to ask the question, why now?
Why is it that these stories are coming out now as compared to then? I don't know if we can truly answer those questions, and as someone who's been abused to some extent, I understand the shame associated with the event, but I still have to wonder why now?
This is not to take away from the victims, in fact, I believe the victims should have first dibs at retaliation, but it's so disheartening to see that something that is so beloved as College football is suffering the exposure of this kind of corruption.
Is it just me, or does it appear that the whole fabric of Amercian Society is unraveling?
_________________ 2 Chronicles 10:14, "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
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| November 10th, 2011, 9:12 am |
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grgrundge
Millen Draft Pick - Epic Bust
Joined: September 5th, 2006, 12:30 pm Posts: 726 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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WarEr4Christ wrote: However, I have to ask the question, why now?
Why is it that these stories are coming out now as compared to then? I don't know if we can truly answer those questions, and as someone who's been abused to some extent, I understand the shame associated with the event, but I still have to wonder why now?
This is not to take away from the victims, in fact, I believe the victims should have first dibs at retaliation, but it's so disheartening to see that something that is so beloved as College football is suffering the exposure of this kind of corruption.
Is it just me, or does it appear that the whole fabric of Amercian Society is unraveling? I believe you will find your answer at least in partial in this article as to why this has surfaced now and how the investigation began from a 2008 complaint against Sandusky about his involment with a boy while he was a volunteer high school football coach. A predator on the loose as I see it: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... andus.html
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| November 10th, 2011, 9:54 am |
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thelomasbrowns
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 1869
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WarEr4Christ wrote: However, I have to ask the question, why now?
Why is it that these stories are coming out now as compared to then? I don't know if we can truly answer those questions, and as someone who's been abused to some extent, I understand the shame associated with the event, but I still have to wonder why now?
This is not to take away from the victims, in fact, I believe the victims should have first dibs at retaliation, but it's so disheartening to see that something that is so beloved as College football is suffering the exposure of this kind of corruption.
Is it just me, or does it appear that the whole fabric of Amercian Society is unraveling? No, this is just an example of the good ol' boy network being brought to light. Heard a columnist from Pittsburgh on the radio today, and he says they are investigating whether or not Sandusky's non-profit was actually a prostitution ring for wealthy donors. You also look at the prosecutor disappearing, and it's clear a lot of money and power went into covering this thing up. Makes you wonder what else is happening behind the scenes that most people never see...
_________________ "Who we are on the field are the bad guys. ... We're the ones that nobody wants to see succeed, and we like it that way. We play better that way." -Nate Burleson
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| November 10th, 2011, 10:08 am |
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Wayne Fontes
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 am Posts: 1919 Location: A2
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I'm listening to the link now. If you are interested: [link]http://audio.weei.com/a/48513214/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm[/link]
I would like to know what the chain of command is for Paterno and the AD. In a typical business you have to report these things to HR and then they take care of it. Aren't you supposed to keep it quiet until the internal investigation is complete? I AM IN NO WAY DEFENDING PATERNO, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. Should he have done more once it turned out that it was going to be covered up? Yes. Do the actions of his superiors (Curley, Schultz covering it up and then perjuring themselves) mean he is justified in keeping quiet? No. If he knew about it, why is McQueary promoted to WR coach and why is Sandusky still allowed on campus with kids???!!?
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| November 10th, 2011, 11:02 am |
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thelomasbrowns
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 1869
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Wayne Fontes wrote: I'm listening to the link now. If you are interested: [link]http://audio.weei.com/a/48513214/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm[/link]
I would like to know what the chain of command is for Paterno and the AD. In a typical business you have to report these things to HR and then they take care of it. Aren't you supposed to keep it quiet until the internal investigation is complete? I AM IN NO WAY DEFENDING PATERNO, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. Should he have done more once it turned out that it was going to be covered up? Yes. Do the actions of his superiors (Curley, Schultz covering it up and then perjuring themselves) mean he is justified in keeping quiet? No. If he knew about it, why is McQueary promoted to WR coach and why is Sandusky still allowed on campus with kids???!!? I don't think the question is whether he followed proper business policies, it's whether or Joe Pa or any of the other people had a moral obligation to act when they saw this wasn't getting resolved through the normal channels.
_________________ "Who we are on the field are the bad guys. ... We're the ones that nobody wants to see succeed, and we like it that way. We play better that way." -Nate Burleson
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| November 10th, 2011, 12:06 pm |
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Wayne Fontes
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 am Posts: 1919 Location: A2
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They clearly did have a moral obligation, but by not doing so, does that warrant just Paterno being fired? Why hasn't McQueary been axed, as well as those involved in not doing anything about it? I guess what I'm getting at is that there has to be at least 6 people who knew and didn't act. Now that the President and Paterno are gone, there has to be more people who were aware and didn't act who should be fired.
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| November 10th, 2011, 12:56 pm |
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