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 Lets Find Sly a new lover...er GOP candidate! 
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You guys do know that most of the "facts" about the Iranian nuclear program are nothing more than propaganda, right?

Just like how Hussein had all these chemical weapons he was going to give to terrorists and use against the US. Or will people never learn?

Iran has a relatively extremist government, but its mostly in response to the US which has been an active manipulator in the country for over 50 years. This is not conspiracy--it is a fact.

I have known several people that emigrated here from Iran. They all tell me pretty much the same story: that Iran in the 1990s was once again becoming increasingly more westernized (which they were hugely in 60s and 70s) and the average Iranian was looking forward to an open relationship with the US once again. Then 9/11 came and GWB labeled them on his axis of his evil, and well the rest is history.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
I disagree with domestic policy outweighing foreign policy at this point in time. RP wants to hold hands with Iran and sing Kumbyeya... That can't happen. We absolutely can't allow Iran to get a nuke. That would be catastrophic.


I agree that international/foreign policy is critically important - but not because of matters of defense... but because of matters of international finance.

On nukes... this is only my (strong) belief, and I will read but won't argue it if you disagree: People said the same thing about China ... and then Pakistan. And North Korea is on the list too ... but guess what? There is no calculus that even an insane brain can muster than would result in a new nuke power dropping their baby bomb onto an established nuke power. I believe developing nukes is a defensive move, with assured destruction trumping some minor capability... and the rest is military-industrial complex positioning and fearmongering.

Ignorant people martyr themselves - but not countries. It will not happen... IMO.

i agree here. Your example of pakistan is the strongest to support your argument. It was a SURE THING they would launch on thier neigbors due to teh straight up hatered they share....but it never happened. guess fear of death does cause a lil common sense to occure

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November 18th, 2011, 3:19 pm
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I.E. wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
I disagree with domestic policy outweighing foreign policy at this point in time. RP wants to hold hands with Iran and sing Kumbyeya... That can't happen. We absolutely can't allow Iran to get a nuke. That would be catastrophic.


I agree that international/foreign policy is critically important - but not because of matters of defense... but because of matters of international finance.

On nukes... this is only my (strong) belief, and I will read but won't argue it if you disagree: People said the same thing about China ... and then Pakistan. And North Korea is on the list too ... but guess what? There is no calculus that even an insane brain can muster than would result in a new nuke power dropping their baby bomb onto an established nuke power. I believe developing nukes is a defensive move, with assured destruction trumping some minor capability... and the rest is military-industrial complex positioning and fearmongering.

Ignorant people martyr themselves - but not countries. It will not happen... IMO.


I'm not worried about Iran dropping a bomb into the US. I'm slightly worried that they allow a nuke to get into the hands of a 3rd party... Taliban perhaps, and THEY deliver it here... But, what I'm more worried about, is Iran dropping a Nuke in Isreal and it causing the next WW...


November 18th, 2011, 6:08 pm
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Unlike so many others, my girl gets it:
Sarah Palin wrote:
How Congress Occupied Wall Street
Politicians who arrive in Washington as men and women of modest means leave as millionaires. Why?
By SARAH PALIN

Mark Twain famously wrote, "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Peter Schweizer's new book, "Throw Them All Out," reveals this permanent political class in all its arrogant glory. (Full disclosure: Mr. Schweizer is employed by my political action committee as a foreign-policy adviser.)

Mr. Schweizer answers the questions so many of us have asked. I addressed this in a speech in Iowa last Labor Day weekend. How do politicians who arrive in Washington, D.C. as men and women of modest means leave as millionaires? How do they miraculously accumulate wealth at a rate faster than the rest of us? How do politicians' stock portfolios outperform even the best hedge-fund managers'? I answered the question in that speech: Politicians derive power from the authority of their office and their access to our tax dollars, and they use that power to enrich and shield themselves.

The money-making opportunities for politicians are myriad, and Mr. Schweizer details the most lucrative methods: accepting sweetheart gifts of IPO stock from companies seeking to influence legislation, practicing insider trading with nonpublic government information, earmarking projects that benefit personal real estate holdings, and even subtly extorting campaign donations through the threat of legislation unfavorable to an industry. The list goes on and on, and it's sickening.

Astonishingly, none of this is technically illegal, at least not for Congress. Members of Congress exempt themselves from the laws they apply to the rest of us. That includes laws that protect whistleblowers (nothing prevents members of Congress from retaliating against staffers who shine light on corruption) and Freedom of Information Act requests (it's easier to get classified documents from the CIA than from a congressional office).

The corruption isn't confined to one political party or just a few bad apples. It's an endemic problem encompassing leadership on both sides of the aisle. It's an entire system of public servants feathering their own nests.

None of this surprises me. I've been fighting this type of corruption and cronyism my entire political career. For years Alaskans suspected that our lawmakers and state administrators were in the pockets of the big oil companies to the detriment of ordinary Alaskans. We knew we were being taken for a ride, but it took FBI wiretaps to finally capture lawmakers in the act of selling their votes. In the wake of politicos being carted off to prison, my administration enacted reforms based on transparency and accountability to prevent this from happening again.

We were successful because we had the righteous indignation of Alaskan citizens on our side. Our good ol' boy political class in Juneau was definitely not with us. Business was good for them, so why would they want to end "business as usual"?

The moment you threaten to strip politicians of their legal graft, they'll moan that they can't govern effectively without it. Perhaps they'll gravitate toward reform, but often their idea of reform is to limit the right of "We the people" to exercise our freedom of speech in the political process.

I've learned from local, state and national political experience that the only solution to entrenched corruption is sudden and relentless reform. Sudden because our permanent political class is adept at changing the subject to divert the public's attention—and we can no longer afford to be indifferent to this system of graft when our country is going bankrupt. Reform must be relentless because fighting corruption is like a game of whack-a-mole. You knock it down in one area only to see it pop up in another.

What are the solutions? We need reform that provides real transparency. Congress should be subject to the Freedom of Information Act like everyone else. We need more detailed financial disclosure reports, and members should submit reports much more often than once a year. All stock transactions above $5,000 should be disclosed within five days.

We need equality under the law. From now on, laws that apply to the private sector must apply to Congress, including whistleblower, conflict-of-interest and insider-trading laws. Trading on nonpublic government information should be illegal both for those who pass on the information and those who trade on it. (This should close the loophole of the blind trusts that aren't really blind because they're managed by family members or friends.)

No more sweetheart land deals with campaign contributors. No gifts of IPO shares. No trading of stocks related to committee assignments. No earmarks where the congressman receives a direct benefit. No accepting campaign contributions while Congress is in session. No lobbyists as family members, and no transitioning into a lobbying career after leaving office. No more revolving door, ever.

This call for real reform must transcend political parties. The grass-roots movements of the right and the left should embrace this. The tea party's mission has always been opposition to waste and crony capitalism, and the Occupy protesters must realize that Washington politicians have been "Occupying Wall Street" long before anyone pitched a tent in Zuccotti Park.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204323904577040373463191222.html?mod=WSJ_article_comments#articleTabs%3Darticle

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I haven't gotten through all of this, but WOW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

beware, 9 min. long

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November 21st, 2011, 11:58 am
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Blueskies wrote:
Employment is not getting any better (the unemployment figure is dropping only because people have been out of work for so long they no longer qualify) and housing is not recovering.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/busin ... t-8-5.html

Another pretty good jobs report out today, 200K new jobs added in December and unemployment now down to 8.5% (6th straight month of at least 100K jobs added). Consumer confidence continues to rise, factory production up, etc.

In football, its all about the QB stupid.

In prez elections, its all about the economy stupid.

If this keeps up, say hello to 4 more years no doubt.

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On the bright side:
Dick Morris wrote:
21% OF DEMS HAVE LEFT PARTY By Dick Morris 01.6.2012

According to the latest Rasmussen Poll, 21% — more than one in five — Democrats have abandoned the Party since Obama’s election as president. While most have become Independents, identification with the Republican Party has also risen not only since 2008 but also even since the GOP’s 2010 victory.

Rasmussen, who tracks voters’ party identification (self-described) every month, shows that Democratic Party identification, has dropped by eight points (or 21%) since Obama’s election in November, 2008 while Republican Party identification has risen by three points over the same period. Despite speculation in the liberal media that the Republicans in Congress have mishandled their mandate since winning the House in 2010, the Republican edge over the Democratic Party has grown from 1.3% in November of 2010 to 2.7% in December of 2011.

Changes in party identification are the most fundamental – and important – measure of political opinion in the country. They are like tectonic plates that shift beneath the surface of the political earth, sending quakes through the system. A shift of such an order of magnitude will rank high on the political Richter scale in 2012.

So dramatic a shift, totaling eleven points since Obama’s election (Dems down by 8, Republicans up by 3) means that had Obama faced McCain in the current political environment, he would have won by five rather than losing by six.

But even that doesn’t tell the story. Surveys of Independents find that they have long since jumped from the Obama ship. His job approval among Independents consistently ranks in the low 30s. He cannot expect much relief from that corner.

All these stats point to a mammoth upset in the making in the 2012 election, sweeping Republicans into the White House and delivering control of the Senate by a good margin. Already, Republicans are likely to take over Democratic seats in Virginia, Florida, Nebraska, Missouri, New Mexico, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin. They may lose in Massachusetts and will probably hold on to their seats in Arizona and Nevada despite the retirement of their incumbents there. That means a GOP dominated Senate by the margin 56-44.

If these data cause Republicans (hopefully wealthy ones) in Washington State, West Virginia, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Minnesota to consider entering U.S. Senate races against the Democratic incumbents in those states, it could cause the GOP to get sixty votes in the Senate. The party identification data indicates that this goal is distinctly within reach if we get good candidates in a few more states.

Don’t listen to the media induced pessimism. A gigantic upset is in the making!


http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/21-of-dems-have-left-party/#more-5865

My guess is that many long time Democrats have opened up their eyes and realized that their once great party has been taken over by far left socialist radicals.

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Just so you know and I didn't want to start another thread but I thought this was interesting. I heard it last week and decided to check it out.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/internatio ... 7AZ3RO9qnM

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/24/w ... d-in-iraq/

So now 2 separate sources, name a third source that leaked all the info. as showing the US did indeed find SIGNIFICANT amounts of WMD's but according to the liberal rags, Bush lied. Hmmm, amazing what comes out in the wash!


Blue do you mean these WMD's that we didn't really hear about NATIONALLY?


As for the economy, Pablo, do you believe that Soros, and his like are not going to fluctuate the economy to get BO back in office? Limbaugh has already predicted a reduction in employment #'s as a ploy to get BO 4 more years. I can almost guarantee you that Soros and his lot are playing or will be playing these numbers big time. Just like the run up to 08, gas prices were at 4.00/gal, and as soon as he took office it dropped to less than 2.00 for a short period in my area, but soon went back up to the 2.40 range. The uber power people like soros are playing games with our economy behind the scenes and we don't really have a choice. But BO has got to go!

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WarEr4Christ, I've known for years that chemical agents were found in Iraq, but it was never reported by the lamestream libtard media. To be fair though, the amount discovered really wasn't very significant. However, it is still very possible that many WMDs were shipped to Syria prior to the US invasion. Regardless, it's just another example of "selective" reporting by the biased, unprofessional, agenda-driven media.

As for Soros, I could go on for hours about that scumbag, but I don't think he has much to do with the unemployment numbers. That's the Department of Labor's doing by dropping the number of people "actively looking for work" at a record pace.If they continue doing what they are, the unemployment rate could approach zero by the time of the election without a single new hire. Imagine that.

But speaking of Soros, remember a few months ago when we sent troops to Uganda to battle the LRA? Well, it appears that Soros has invested in companies with oil and mineral rights in Uganda, but they are unwilling to proceed with operations until the LRA are no longer a threat. Makes you think about the motivations for deploying those troops now, huh?

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