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Post Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs.
Demaurice Smith has so screwed the NFLPA that they may never recover for a few reasons. His name will be a 4 letter word by next season.

Reason 1:
I heard some info about Tags that I haven't seen anyone here mention yet.

Last year The franchise tag paid the average of the top 5 salaries at the position in question.
And the Transition tag paid the average of the top 10 Salaries at the position in question.

Under the new CBA:

The franchise tag pays the average of the top 5 salaries at the position in question for the last 5 years.
And the Transition tag pays the average of the top 10 salaries at the position in question for the last 5 years.

This means that it is cheaper to tag a player this year than it cost last year because last years averages are being dragged down by the averages from 5 years ago.

Reason 2:
The NFLPA's only real weapon they have ever had in negotiations has been the threat of de-certification and anti trust suits. This is illegal if it is only intended as a negotiating ploy. Well, the next time they need to negotiate a new CBA, they will not have that bargaining chip. No judge worth his robe will accept the unions decertification because of how fast they cancelled the antitrust suits once they had an agreement. It is now a certainty that any judge would see that as an illegal negotiation ploy.
End result? The NFLPA is now castrated. Their only negotiating weapon is one they will never do. Go on strike and risk losing 1/10th of their careers.

Reason 3:
Smith negotiated that the players will take a smaller slice of the pie because it will be a bigger pie. Just wait until the players realize that the owners pie will be bigger also.

Reason 4:
Smith negotiated the Players best source of increased pay away in the form of the rookie salary cap. ( I agree that this was necessary.) But, this plus reasons 5 and 6 will work together to drive down salaries for the next couple years.

Reason 5:
Smith did nothing to make sure the Salary Cap would be growing this year or next. Furthermore, he did nothing to prevent it from shrinking.
As a result, we are sitting 4 days from the deadline to Tag players. And no-one knows if the cap is going to grow, stay the same, or more likely SHRINK this year and next before the cap explodes in 2014 like they THINK IT WILL.

Reason 6:
As a result of the cap situation for the next 2 years, ( mainly because of the last 2 years of no-one knowing how the CBA was going to end up), There will be over 600 Free Agents this year. There will also be an estimated 150+ Cap cuts. Plus, after the draft and the signing of undrafted free agents, there will be another estimated 200 veterans cut. That's almost 1000 players looking for work in 1 year. Only about the 1st 100 free agents will get big bucks. Everyone else will be desperately trying to avoid a forced retirement. So, they will be taking veteran minimum deals.

For all 6 reasons, the NFLPA will rue the day they hired Demaurice Smith to represent them.


March 1st, 2012, 9:50 pm
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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
Very interesting.

Quick question (rookie question i suppose). What is the difference between the franchise and transition tags other than what they are paid? You hear of the franchise tag more often than the transition tag.

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March 1st, 2012, 11:12 pm
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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
kdsberman wrote:
Very interesting.

Quick question (rookie question i suppose). What is the difference between the franchise and transition tags other than what they are paid? You hear of the franchise tag more often than the transition tag.


Franchise tag would net you two 1st round draft picks in compensation. Transition tag gets you one 1st round pick. But, teams have only rarely ever used the transition tag. I don't know why.


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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
Depends on which tag they use. Only the non-exclusive will allow them to negotiate and get 2 1st round picks as compensation.


For a Non-Exclusive tag, it's the greater of a 120% raise or:

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                                 (sum of franchise tags for this position last 5 years)
(current salary cap)  *    ------------------------------------------------------------
                                              (sum of salary cap last 5 years)



For Exclusive tag, it's the greater of the Non-Exclusive tag price above, or the average of the top 5 salaries at the position THAT YEAR as of the end of the RFA signing period.

The 5 year deal is to prevent a huge jump year to year if/when the cap jumps after a new TV deal. Also, the exclusive still applies to the current salaries, not the 5 year average.


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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
njroar wrote:
Depends on which tag they use. Only the non-exclusive will allow them to negotiate and get 2 1st round picks as compensation.


For a Non-Exclusive tag, it's the greater of a 120% raise or:

Code:
   
                                 (sum of franchise tags for this position last 5 years)
(current salary cap)  *    ------------------------------------------------------------
                                              (sum of salary cap last 5 years)



For Exclusive tag, it's the greater of the Non-Exclusive tag price above, or the average of the top 5 salaries at the position THAT YEAR as of the end of the RFA signing period.

The 5 year deal is to prevent a huge jump year to year if/when the cap jumps after a new TV deal. Also, the exclusive still applies to the current salaries, not the 5 year average.


What your talking about is for restricted free agents. The Franchise and Transition tags are for veterans with 4 or more years in the league.


March 1st, 2012, 11:37 pm
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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
Ok, back to answer 2-6:

BillySims wrote:
Demaurice Smith has so screwed the NFLPA that they may never recover for a few reasons. His name will be a 4 letter word by next season.


Reason 2:
The NFLPA's only real weapon they have ever had in negotiations has been the threat of de-certification and anti trust suits. This is illegal if it is only intended as a negotiating ploy. Well, the next time they need to negotiate a new CBA, they will not have that bargaining chip. No judge worth his robe will accept the unions decertification because of how fast they cancelled the antitrust suits once they had an agreement. It is now a certainty that any judge would see that as an illegal negotiation ploy.
End result? The NFLPA is now castrated. Their only negotiating weapon is one they will never do. Go on strike and risk losing 1/10th of their careers.
It was part of the agreement that the lawsuit was cancelled. The judges will realize it just like they realized it the last time they did it. This doesn't hurt them at all.

Reason 3:
Smith negotiated that the players will take a smaller slice of the pie because it will be a bigger pie. Just wait until the players realize that the owners pie will be bigger also.
But for the owner's slice to grow, the player's slice has to grow at the exact same percentage. It doesn't stay locked in place. That's how a pie grows... all together, not one slice at a time.

Reason 4:
Smith negotiated the Players best source of increased pay away in the form of the rookie salary cap. ( I agree that this was necessary.) But, this plus reasons 5 and 6 will work together to drive down salaries for the next couple years.
It only benefited those taken in the 1st round. The majority of the players never saw that kind of money and it hindered teams from ever offering those same contracts to players that should have earned them.

Reason 5:
Smith did nothing to make sure the Salary Cap would be growing this year or next. Furthermore, he did nothing to prevent it from shrinking.
As a result, we are sitting 4 days from the deadline to Tag players. And no-one knows if the cap is going to grow, stay the same, or more likely SHRINK this year and next before the cap explodes in 2014 like they THINK IT WILL.
The cap is % based off revenue. Not once in the history of the NFL has the salary cap has the cap gone down. This year could go from last years $120 to $130 million. That's not going down, that's up. As a basis of history, the cap was $34 million in 1994. What he did get implemented was a salary floor. Some teams refused to spend money on salaries or free agents and were satisfied just to make a profit regardless of income. Now teams are forced to spend a minimum amount.

Reason 6:
As a result of the cap situation for the next 2 years, ( mainly because of the last 2 years of no-one knowing how the CBA was going to end up), There will be over 600 Free Agents this year. There will also be an estimated 150+ Cap cuts. Plus, after the draft and the signing of undrafted free agents, there will be another estimated 200 veterans cut. That's almost 1000 players looking for work in 1 year. Only about the 1st 100 free agents will get big bucks. Everyone else will be desperately trying to avoid a forced retirement. So, they will be taking veteran minimum deals.
This was the result of the owners using the old rules of #5 with the salary floor and the cutoff of last years FA due to the non-capped season. Most should have been FA last season, not they just got lumped together this year. Its also a good thing that a new USFL is coming in the form of a spring league in cooperation with the league. Think of it as a developmental league and with that many players on the market, you can see the potential of it actually being a successful farm league. It will be the perfect spot for those players that need a little more time to develop and break back into the league. The perfect storm for it, instead of it trying to compete like the old USFL, XFL and UFL that couldn't financially make it.

For all 6 reasons, the NFLPA will rue the day they hired Demaurice Smith to represent them.


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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
BillySims wrote:
njroar wrote:
Depends on which tag they use. Only the non-exclusive will allow them to negotiate and get 2 1st round picks as compensation.


For a Non-Exclusive tag, it's the greater of a 120% raise or:

Code:
   
                                 (sum of franchise tags for this position last 5 years)
(current salary cap)  *    ------------------------------------------------------------
                                              (sum of salary cap last 5 years)



For Exclusive tag, it's the greater of the Non-Exclusive tag price above, or the average of the top 5 salaries at the position THAT YEAR as of the end of the RFA signing period.

The 5 year deal is to prevent a huge jump year to year if/when the cap jumps after a new TV deal. Also, the exclusive still applies to the current salaries, not the 5 year average.


What your talking about is for restricted free agents. The Franchise and Transition tags are for veterans with 4 or more years in the league.


No, there's two types of franchise tags, although the non-exclusive rarely gets used. And the above is directly from the CBA under the franchise tag section.


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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
Not sure but I kind of remember hearing that if a team gives a player the highest tender and doesn't match another teams offer the compensation is only one 1st rounder under the new CBA.


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Post Re: Franchise/Transition Tags and Demaurice Smith screw jobs
Tenders are for restricted free agents. The above is about franchise tags which is for unrestricted free agents. And yes, the new CBA changed the highest tender from 1st and 3rd to only a 1st.


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But for the owner's slice to grow, the player's slice has to grow at the exact same percentage. It doesn't stay locked in place. That's how a pie grows... all together, not one slice at a time.


I know that the whole pie grows at the same rate. What I am saying is that the players apparently didn't realize that. The Owners told them that their smaller percentage would be worth more money, TRUE. But, on the flip side, If the percentages had stayed the same, Both slices would have been bigger.

What the owners did, and the players accepted, amounts to Snickers announcing they are going to reduce the size of their candy bars. But, they will pack more peanuts into each one.


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