WJB: I'm not even gonna try to change your mind but there is plenty of TV evidence to the contrary. How many times did Nate come over and tout CJ on national t.v.? How many times has Nate stated he was willing to talk to X to the press? I remember reading at least 2. And these are just the one we see or read, there are probably many more behind the scenes I'm sure. Nate has been a blessing to this team in leadership, and catches. Last year he struggled, but the year before he was hot if I remember correctly. But no worries, you have your opinion and it is what it is. Thankfully we don't have any power when it comes to the roster, so if he stays or goes we have to deal with it either way.

Most agree that he's not worth $6.5 million, which is what he makes. That's utterly ridiculous for his production on the field. Further, he grabs media attention every chance he gets. IMO he realizes that he increases his paycheck and his perceived worth for opening his mouth, and does so accordingly. Most of what he says is obvious BS. I really don't see it as anything more than pandering.

He was slated to make $6.5 this year because he restructured to help the cap last year. He did the same thing again this year. For a veteran that knows contracts aren't guaranteed and to push off money to a point where WHEN not if he's cut and released, he will never get the full amount of the contract he signed, shows a lot. He did have more drops last year, but still caught a higher % (67) when targeted than CJ (63). CJ's made catches were just in more productive areas. I'm not saying in any shape or form that Nate was better than CJ, but its not like he slacked off. He's still the most productive #2 we've had in a very long time.

of course they are a little overpaid, they came to a franchinse that was a miserable laughingstock for 10 yrs before they got here. lets see a little bit of sustained success and groom the younger plays before we start shipping the people that contributed to the success out of town

Lions address off-the-field issues in team meeting

By Tim Twentyman


The Lions held a team meeting on Monday and head coach Jim Schwartz did address the off-the-field issues surrounding a few of the team’s second-year players during that meeting.

Schwartz briefly spoke about the offseason marijuana possession charges of tackle Johnny Culbreath, defensive tackle Nick Fairley and running back Mikel Leshoure (two separate charges).

Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford said Schwartz's message to the team was brief and simple.

"We've come so far. We don't want anything to hold us back," Stafford said of the message. "I think everybody knows that. Some of the guys that were having trouble are younger guys and they’ll figure it out. We’ll be there to help them along.”

Fairley, Leshoure or Culbreath did not address the team, according to Stafford.

“Like I said, these guys are young guys, but they’re grown men and they understand what they need to do, to do what they can to correct it and not let it happen again,” Stafford said. “Everyone makes mistakes, this is life, and we just make sure their heads in the right place moving forward and just get ready for the seasons.

“Anytime something like that happens it’s obviously disappointing and surprising at the same time. It’s a tough situation to deal with, but at same time these guys are going to get back to work just like we are and prepare for the season.”

of course they are a little overpaid, they came to a franchinse that was a miserable laughingstock for 10 yrs before they got here. lets see a little bit of sustained success and groom the younger plays before we start shipping the people that contributed to the success out of town

Mayhew says Lions won’t shy away from players who have used marijuana
Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2012, 4:44 PM EDT

Despite recent marijuana-related incidents involving the team’s top two draft picks in 2011 (Nick Fairley and Mikel Leshoure), the Detroit Lions won’t be shying away from players with marijuana in their past.

Lions G.M. Martin Mayhew explained the team’s position on Thursday.

“The league has really changed over the years,” Mayhew said, via Anwar Richardson of MLive.com. “If you go back 10, 15 years ago, and a guy had a positive test, that was a big deal. That was something to be very concerned about. It still is, but not at the level it was years ago. There are certain things we want to hear from guys. There are certain things we don’t want to hear from guys. It doesn’t help us to tell you [media] what those things are.”

The main thing teams want to hear from players who have marijuana in their history is that, if push comes to shove, they’ll stop using it. As mentioned earlier today, many teams care about marijuana use only to the extent that the player ends up being unable to play due to repeated positive tests, and the suspensions that inevitably arise. (As former Buccaneers and Colts coach Tony Dungy explained last year on PFT Live, some teams aren’t so quick to overlook illegal drug use.)

The other reality is that, for all the players who get in trouble for using marijuana in college, plenty more of them don’t get in trouble for it. Dumping players from draft boards simply because they got caught will disqualify a team from landing talented players who, once they realize the stakes, will put down the bong and never look back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... marijuana/

gee...ya think he might be talking about anyone specifically?\



cough cough jenkins cough cough

Either that or he's putting the idea that we would draft Jenkins so that another team trades ahead of us to take him and thus, let's someone else slide to us.