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 Who Should the Lions Draft #1 Overall? 

Who should the Lions draft #1 overall?
Poll ended at April 24th, 2009, 5:01 pm
QB Matt Stafford - Georgia 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
OT Jason Smith - Baylor 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
LB Aaron Curry - Wake Forest 75%  75%  [ 27 ]
OT Eugene Monroe - Virginia 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
QB Mark Sanchez - Southern Cal 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 36

 Who Should the Lions Draft #1 Overall? 
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I never said it was deffinate. All I'm saying is that I have seen these reports and it scares me.

I will do the right and go back and find where the sites that I got this info from.

Then you can bitch about how nobody has said any thing.


April 23rd, 2009, 4:23 pm
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lol, calm down, I'm not bitching. I just said that I haven't seen the reports, and I've been emailing Mike Florio over at PFT and Killer at Mlive as well as refreshing ESPN insider and alot of the other sites.

I know a few saw those reports yesterday that Stafford was signed, but didn't see the reports minutes later that denied the reports, followed with the deal in place with Curry.

Its very possible I missed a report here and there, but all i was saying was prosports daily and ESPN haven't reported that today after the denials yesterday.


April 23rd, 2009, 4:29 pm
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Curry. Build a defense and go out and win some games. If the defense was the weakest side of the ball last year, why ignore it in the beginning of the draft when most people feel that Curry is the best player in the draft? Even Kiper thinks so but can't get away from the love he has for Stafford, of which whom he openly admits to loving since high school. A little biased towards him possibly?


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Turns out most of us were wrong afterall.... :lol:

BTW - isn't it funny how everyone loves to bash me about JaMarcus, but everyone forgets that I always wanted a QB each year until we got it right including Stafford - I so rarely see everyone reminded others how they wanted Curry so bad over our QB.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... tter_draft

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Arian Foster, not Mark Sanchez, to Jets in 2009 draft re-do

Right now, no one is going to mistake the 2009 NFL Draft as one that defined a generation. Heck, it barely defined 2009. In fact, plenty of experts call it the worst draft of all time.

Just 11 players chosen have reached the Pro Bowl (well, 10 actually, because the best player overall that year wasn't even drafted). Go through the seven rounds, and it's hard to find a lot of impact players. Or guys who are even still in the league. Conventional wisdom says you need three years to fully judge a draft class. Well, we've had those three years.

So now, I present a re-draft of the top 10 picks in 2009. I'm heading back in time to look at how teams filled their biggest holes -- and then re-filling them with a better choice where applicable.

1. Detroit Lions
Actual Pick: Matthew Stafford, QB
Do-Over Pick: Matthew Stafford, QB

Had we done this exercise last offseason, it would be Arian Foster in this slot. What a difference a year makes. Stafford turned into a full-blown star and, more importantly, proved he could stay healthy for an entire season plus a playoff game. The Lions needed everything in '09, so Foster could have worked. However, while you can argue who's the better overall player between Stafford and Foster, the NFL is a quarterback-driven league and that's not changing. If you have a choice between two studs at those positions, always take the QB. You can find the RB somewhere else.


2. St. Louis Rams
Actual Pick: Jason Smith, OT
Do-Over Pick: Mike Wallace, WR

You know I'm partial to this kid for nomenclature reasons, but I couldn't go back and take him again (even though, in an interview I did with him, he did offer to swap jobs and paychecks with me for a week and host my old radio show while I would play OT for St. Louis). The Rams were looking for another Orlando Pace and instead got Orlando Jones. In 2009, St. Louis was still clinging to the Marc Bulger era and had just released Torry Holt, leaving 2008 second-rounder Donnie Avery to head up the receiving corps. Wallace could have made this offense explosive, and with Steven Jackson in his prime, they may have snuck in a division title in the process. Of course that means this Butterfly Effect could have sent Sam Bradford somewhere else, but I think taking Wallace would have been worth it.

3. Kansas City Chiefs
Actual Pick: Tyson Jackson, DE
Do-Over Pick: Brian Orakpo, DE

This was tougher than you think. Much like with Stafford, if we had done this a year ago, it would be no contest. Jackson meandered through his first two seasons and no one thought he'd be able to live up to his potential. After all, he was a DE who the Chiefs knew wasn't going to get to the quarterback. That's like me saying, "Oh I'll buy that Cadillac, even though it doesn't have any wheels." However, his 2011 campaign was a bit of a breakthrough. Jackson became a very good run stuffer and the Chiefs' defense was better than everyone thinks it was. But Orakpo is a monster who was selected to Pro Bowls in each of his first three years (he was an alternate last season). He gets to the passer and is a game-changing disruptor. Jackson's solid. That's nice, but I can get "solid" guys easier than I can get someone who can sack the quarterback, play Scrabble and win a showdown with a caveman. And oh by the way, if you were thinking Arian Foster here instead, the Chiefs went into the season with a 1-2 punch of Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles that they were pretty happy with. Last season's injury aside, Charles has been lights-out.

4. Seattle Seahawks
Actual Pick: Aaron Curry, LB
Do-Over Pick: Clay Matthews, LB

All you need to know here is that after just two seasons the Seahawks shipped Curry to the Raiders for a seventh-round pick and a conditional selection. (And this guy was actually in the mix to be No. 1 overall for a little while!) How much more teeth would there be in that Seahawks defense with Matthews? A Pro Bowler all three years in the league and he was first-team All Pro in 2010. And that hair, my gosh, I would've re-done the pick if I was just getting that part of him. I know, why not Foster? Well, Seattle thought they had their RB situation under control after having just added Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett. And now they have the Skittles Beast, so they're all set there.

5. New York Jets
Actual Pick: Mark Sanchez, QB
Do-Over Pick: Arian Foster, RB

You wanted ground-and-pound? The Jets could have made it to the AFC title game with Kellen Clemens or Roger Clemens or Pat Clements at QB if they took Foster here. Rex Ryan was in the market for a running back to pair with Thomas Jones, as the Jets selected Shonn Greene with the first pick in the third round. I'm a Jets fan, so this is sort of fun to think about, but it's depressing at the same time. It's hard to ponder how Foster went undrafted, and it's even harder to think where Sanchez would have gone in a re-draft. No one would have touched him in the first round, certainly, and I highly doubt in rounds two or three either. He would have been selected well after that and probably would be quarterbacking the Browns right now.

6. Cincinnati Bengals
Actual Pick: Andre Smith, OT
Do-Over Pick: LeSean McCoy, RB

Again, the magic of the third year for a player. Smith was a washout who played in just 13 games his first two seasons. Highly disappointing. But he drastically improved a year ago. Now we've seemingly forgotten the picture of the saggy pecs that had defined his career until last season. Or maybe not, and that vision is burned in your brain. Either way, even though he's good now, you could get another "good" tackle somewhere, but McCoy is a game-changer and the Eagles' most indispensable player. And here's the thing: The Bengals were desperately looking for a running back. They had unexpectedly released Rudi Johnson at the last minute before the 2008 campaign and finished 29th in rushing offense that season. Can you imagine a big three of Andy Dalton, A.J. Green and McCoy right now in Cincinnati?

7. Oakland Raiders
Actual Pick: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR
Do-Over Pick: Hakeem Nicks, WR

For about 10 minutes, we also thought the third season was going to be a breakthrough for Hey-Bey, but down the stretch Carson Palmer threw to him about as often as I turn down dessert. It was a reach then, and it's even more of a reach now. You can't draft a project in the first 10 picks of a draft. You need someone NFL-ready, and Nicks slightly gets the nod here over Percy Harvin because of his ability to dominate games with 10-plus targets on a regular basis. With Nicks, the Raiders take the AFC West title last season.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars
Actual Pick: Eugene Monroe, OT
Do-Over Pick: Brian Cushing, LB

Again, the third year meant everything for Eugene Monroe, who will continue to start at LT for Jacksonville after finally "getting it" a bit last season. But again, just like the Bengals before, you want a franchise-type player when you're drafting in the top 10. Even though he's had some controversy, Cushing is every bit the superstar. The 2009 Defensive Rookie of the Year was the Texans' 2011 Team MVP and second-team All-Pro. The Jaguars have holes everywhere, so it would be nice to at least have the leader of your defense for the next 10 years in place. And here I was thinking Rey Maualuga was going to be the best of those USC linebackers. Can I get a do-over on that opinion?

9. Green Bay Packers
Actual Pick: B.J. Raji, DT
Do-Over Pick: B.J. Raji, DT

Well, finally another pick that doesn't have to be re-done. Raji is a physical force who blossomed in Year 2. And let's be honest, Green Bay would take him all over again here just because of his pick-six that sealed the NFC title game two years ago. Well, that and the dance that's given Aaron Rodgers so much joy. He made the Pro Bowl this year, he's scoring TDs out of the backfield (unlike actual Packers running backs) and with "The Freezer," he's got the best nickname on the team.

10. San Francisco 49ers
Actual Pick: Michael Crabtree, WR
Do-Over Pick: Percy Harvin, WR

Here's how you judge the talent level of the 49ers: When Michael Crabtree is your top wideout, you're not very good at that position. When he's your third-best wideout (like he is now), then things are better. I admit, I thought he was going to be the next Keyshawn Johnson, but instead he goes weeks without impacting a game. If San Francisco could do it again, Harvin is the selection. The Niners could have gotten him the ball in so many different ways. He would have been another security blanket for Alex Smith -- in addition to Vernon Davis -- and Smith might be better than he is now. Harvin is starting to become an absolute nightmare for opposing coaches because he's getting consistent. There might not have been a better wideout the final six weeks of 2011.


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Post Re: Who Should the Lions Draft #1 Overall?
Pablo wrote:
Turns out most of us were wrong afterall.... :lol:

BTW - isn't it funny how everyone loves to bash me about JaMarcus, but everyone forgets that I always wanted a QB each year until we got it right including Stafford - I so rarely see everyone reminded others how they wanted Curry so bad over our QB.


I think a great many of us have openly admitted to being wrong about Curry over Stafford, myself included.

However, let's be honest here Pablo, you were in favor of drafting the POSITION, not necessarily the PLAYER.

Had it been up to you the Lions would have drafted JaMarcus over Calvin (2007).

But then again, I'd have rather had Joe Flacco over Gosder Cherilus (2008), or Aaron Rodgers over Mike Williams (2005), Jay Cutler over Ernie Sims (2006), or even Ben Roethlisberger over Roy Williams (2004).

Hmmmm...maybe you WERE onto something afterall. :wink:

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Looking at the poll..

WHO VOTED FOR MARK SANCHEZ?!?!

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I jumped on the Stafford Bandwagon very early on in the process of drafting him. I was sold on Stafford from listening to Gil Brandt talk about him.


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I jumped on the Stafford Bandwagon very early on in the process of drafting him. I was sold on Stafford from listening to Gil Brandt talk about him.


Do you have a link to something like that? I'd love to hear it nowadays.

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yep...Pablo I give ya a hard time about Russel whenever I can...so it's only fair that I admit I was ALL OVER Curry(......never been so happy to be wrong in my life!) I thought for sure the next years batch of QB's was going to have several gems in it.

All hail Mayhew for drafting the "wrong" guy!

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regularjoe12 wrote:
yep...Pablo I give ya a hard time about Russel whenever I can...so it's only fair that I admit I was ALL OVER Curry(......never been so happy to be wrong in my life!) I thought for sure the next years batch of QB's was going to have several gems in it.

All hail Mayhew for drafting the "wrong" guy!



Me too, regularjoe. I remember saying (and I cringe every time i think of this)..."We have Jon Kitna. We dont NEED a quarterback. We dont have a MLB. Curry by far makes the most sense". ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

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Footsoldier32 wrote:
BillySims wrote:
I jumped on the Stafford Bandwagon very early on in the process of drafting him. I was sold on Stafford from listening to Gil Brandt talk about him.


Do you have a link to something like that? I'd love to hear it nowadays.


No link. Gil Brandt is now a host on Sirius NFL Radio. He hosts the "Late Hits" show.


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Damn that's old, But Matty was the right call. I was jomo back then.


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