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Re: Cornerbacks
Asante is nothing in run support, so no thank you.
April 19th, 2012, 2:48 pm
Boz
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Re: Cornerbacks
If he can take of everything except run support, then he is a leap forward from what we had last year. I also believe that he won't get near the salary that most everyone is thinking.
April 19th, 2012, 11:14 pm
njroar
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Re: Cornerbacks
Boz wrote:
If he can take of everything except run support, then he is a leap forward from what we had last year. I also believe that he won't get near the salary that most everyone is thinking.
He has a $12 million salary cap figure now, so there's no thinking involved. If he doesn't want to negotiate it down, he doesn't have too.
April 20th, 2012, 12:31 am
Boz
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Re: Cornerbacks
And he won't get paid that by anybody but the home team. They can always release him and pay nothing. I would do that in a heartbeat.
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April 20th, 2012, 12:34 am
njroar
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Re: Cornerbacks
Boz wrote:
And he won't get paid that by anybody but the home team.
exactly, so he can force them to keep him or release him, allowing him to go to where he chooses. Its one of the reasons making him trade bait is so difficult.
April 20th, 2012, 12:35 am
Boz
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Re: Cornerbacks
OK, now I catch your drift. Just saying he will never see that $12mil.
April 20th, 2012, 12:37 am
thelomasbrowns
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Re: Cornerbacks
Is it stupid to say that Gilmore just looks like a legit NFL cornerback? Probably, but I'm going to say it anyways.
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April 20th, 2012, 9:55 am
wjb21ndtown
Re: Cornerbacks
thelomasbrowns wrote:
Is it stupid to say that Gilmore just looks like a legit NFL cornerback? Probably, but I'm going to say it anyways.
He looks kind of soft to me.
April 20th, 2012, 11:52 am
TheRealWags
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Re: Cornerbacks
For those thinking about Asante Samuel...
PFT wrote:
Broncos tried to trade for Samuel Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2012, 7:08 AM EDT
The Broncos apparently like their cornerbacks on the wrong side of 30.
According to Mike Klis the Denver Post, the team tried to trade for cornerback Asante Samuel, the 31-year-old cover man who has become a luxury the Eagles can no longer afford.
Per Klis, the Broncos made two proposals. One would have sent a fifth-round or sixth-round draft pick to Philly, and the other would have sent a player.
The Broncos reportedly believe they can no longer make the trade happen. On March 22, they signed former Saints conerback Tracy Porter (who is merely 25). Last Friday, they cut veteran starter Andre’ Goodman, who is 33.
The elder statesman and No. 1 corner for the Broncos is Champ Bailey. He turns 34 in June.
It’s widely believed that Samuel would have to reduce the value of the final two years of his contract in order to make a trade happen, given that he’s due to earn base salaries of $10 million and $11.5 million, respectively, over the next two seasons. And so he essentially has the ability to veto any trade by saying he won’t cut his pay.
Doesn't mention why the proposed deals fell through. Was it the Eagles or Asante that nixed them? On the other hand, Andre Goodman looks to be available.....
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April 20th, 2012, 1:28 pm
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Re: Cornerbacks
TheRealWags wrote:
For those thinking about Asante Samuel...
PFT wrote:
Broncos tried to trade for Samuel Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2012, 7:08 AM EDT
The Broncos apparently like their cornerbacks on the wrong side of 30.
According to Mike Klis the Denver Post, the team tried to trade for cornerback Asante Samuel, the 31-year-old cover man who has become a luxury the Eagles can no longer afford.
Per Klis, the Broncos made two proposals. One would have sent a fifth-round or sixth-round draft pick to Philly, and the other would have sent a player.
The Broncos reportedly believe they can no longer make the trade happen. On March 22, they signed former Saints conerback Tracy Porter (who is merely 25). Last Friday, they cut veteran starter Andre’ Goodman, who is 33.
The elder statesman and No. 1 corner for the Broncos is Champ Bailey. He turns 34 in June.
It’s widely believed that Samuel would have to reduce the value of the final two years of his contract in order to make a trade happen, given that he’s due to earn base salaries of $10 million and $11.5 million, respectively, over the next two seasons. And so he essentially has the ability to veto any trade by saying he won’t cut his pay.
Doesn't mention why the proposed deals fell through. Was it the Eagles or Asante that nixed them? On the other hand, Andre Goodman looks to be available.....
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April 20th, 2012, 2:34 pm
Pablo
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And he won't get paid that by anybody but the home team. They can always release him and pay nothing. I would do that in a heartbeat.
So, you would trade away a draft pick for him and then cut him when he has the audacity to say, " no, I will play with the contract I currently have thank you."?
The team that trades for him doesn't have a choice unless they make the trade conditional to a restructured contract.
April 20th, 2012, 5:44 pm
Boz
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Re: Cornerbacks
Trade after the contract is done and not until. So, no I wouldn't do that
April 20th, 2012, 6:45 pm
wjb21ndtown
Re: Cornerbacks
BillySims wrote:
Boz wrote:
And he won't get paid that by anybody but the home team. They can always release him and pay nothing. I would do that in a heartbeat.
So, you would trade away a draft pick for him and then cut him when he has the audacity to say, " no, I will play with the contract I currently have thank you."?
The team that trades for him doesn't have a choice unless they make the trade conditional to a restructured contract.
No team is going to trade for Asante Samuel without a deal in place.
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