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Stallion
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 12:45 pm Posts: 1824
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 Re: Detroit 2nd round
Honestly, I like the idea of grabbing Konz if available.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:21 am |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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 Re: Detroit 2nd round
Stallion wrote: Honestly, I like the idea of grabbing Konz if available. Him or Silatolu would be great. Then we can trade Peterman to the Cowboys for Mike Jenkins.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:23 am |
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mwill2
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 9:00 am Posts: 1839 Location: Greensboro, NC
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 Re: Detroit 2nd round
Tweet from John Clayton. Seems relevant to the current conversation. Quote: John Clayton @ClaytonESPN With three CBs _ Brandon Carr, Orlando Scandrick and Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins is a goner. Could they get a fourth for him? Maybe. I doubt Dallas gets a 4th rounder for Jenkins. I could see Mayhew getting him for a 5th or less. Jenkins isn't a Pro Bowler but he'd be good depth and an upgrade over Alphonso Smith. So here's another way the DB position can be addressed in the later rounds.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:24 am |
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Pablo
RIP Killer
Joined: August 6th, 2004, 9:21 am Posts: 8777 Location: Dallas
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 Re: Detroit 2nd round
Pablo wrote: My top ten for the Lions is something like:
1.) G/T Cordy Glenn 2.) OT Jonathan Martin 3.) C Peter Konz 3.) CB Janoris Jenkins 4.) OT Mike Adams 5.) DE Vinny Curry 6.) CB Trumaine Johnson 7.) G Amini Silatolu 8.) LB Lavonte David 9.) OT Bobby Massie 10.) DT Jarel Worthy
(lots of linemen of value still left) I just ran this this against my board and it is pretty close, however, I realized that DE Courtney Upshaw is still available (thanks to M2Ks rankings, I've got him higer) so add one more to the top of the list.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:31 am |
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LionFan57
Hall of Fame Player
Joined: April 5th, 2005, 7:03 am Posts: 7395 Location: Ford Field - 35 yard line / Row 32
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m2karateman wrote: Stallion wrote: Honestly, I like the idea of grabbing Konz if available. Him or Silatolu would be great. Then we can trade Peterman to the Cowboys for Mike Jenkins. This would be awesome! Just thinking about it makes my panties wet!
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:32 am |
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BillySims
General Manager - Martin Mayhew
Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 6506 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
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mwill2 wrote: Tweet from John Clayton. Seems relevant to the current conversation. Quote: John Clayton @ClaytonESPN With three CBs _ Brandon Carr, Orlando Scandrick and Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins is a goner. Could they get a fourth for him? Maybe. I doubt Dallas gets a 4th rounder for Jenkins. I could see Mayhew getting him for a 5th or less. Jenkins isn't a Pro Bowler but he'd be good depth and an upgrade over Alphonso Smith. So here's another way the DB position can be addressed in the later rounds. I am sick of settling for other teams castaways. If Mike Jenkins is the odd man out in Dallas, ie 4th best CB, then he shouldn't be considered for our 2nd best CB spot.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:46 am |
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mwill2
Play by Play Announcer - Al Michaels
Joined: October 15th, 2005, 9:00 am Posts: 1839 Location: Greensboro, NC
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 Re: Detroit 2nd round
BillySims wrote: mwill2 wrote: Tweet from John Clayton. Seems relevant to the current conversation. Quote: John Clayton @ClaytonESPN With three CBs _ Brandon Carr, Orlando Scandrick and Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins is a goner. Could they get a fourth for him? Maybe. I doubt Dallas gets a 4th rounder for Jenkins. I could see Mayhew getting him for a 5th or less. Jenkins isn't a Pro Bowler but he'd be good depth and an upgrade over Alphonso Smith. So here's another way the DB position can be addressed in the later rounds. I am sick of settling for other teams castaways. If Mike Jenkins is the odd man out in Dallas, ie 4th best CB, then he shouldn't be considered for our 2nd best CB spot. Who said he'd be our #2? The question is: is the guy better than players currently on the roster? Would you take Jenkins over Alphonso Smith? I would. Could he compete with Jacob Lacey or Aaron Berry? Probably.
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:48 am |
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Ferris
Pro Bowl Player
Joined: April 19th, 2005, 2:10 pm Posts: 2478 Location: Michigan
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mwill2 wrote: BillySims wrote: mwill2 wrote: Tweet from John Clayton. Seems relevant to the current conversation. Quote: John Clayton @ClaytonESPN With three CBs _ Brandon Carr, Orlando Scandrick and Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins is a goner. Could they get a fourth for him? Maybe. I doubt Dallas gets a 4th rounder for Jenkins. I could see Mayhew getting him for a 5th or less. Jenkins isn't a Pro Bowler but he'd be good depth and an upgrade over Alphonso Smith. So here's another way the DB position can be addressed in the later rounds. I am sick of settling for other teams castaways. If Mike Jenkins is the odd man out in Dallas, ie 4th best CB, then he shouldn't be considered for our 2nd best CB spot. Who said he'd be our #2? The question is: is the guy better than players currently on the roster? Would you take Jenkins over Alphonso Smith? I would. Could he compete with Jacob Lacey or Aaron Berry? Probably. Let's just be honest for one second here, If Calvin Johnson would be there third best WR, Maybe their 4th CB isn't all that bad 
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| April 27th, 2012, 10:50 am |
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Wayne Fontes
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 am Posts: 1919 Location: A2
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Just off of my Big Board, the players remaining are as follows: 1) OL Cordy Glenn 2) DE Courtney Upshaw 3) C Peter Konz 4) OT Jonathan Martin 5) OT Mike Adams 6) DT Devon Still 7) DL Kendall Reyes  TE Coby Fleener 9) DT Jerel Worthy 10) DE Andre Branch Of these guys, I wouldn't hate Glenn, Konz, or Branch, but I don't see them making it down to 54. Also, I don't know if we would try to trade up for Jenkins. We as fans can see a need, see a player that fills said need, and bang the drum for said player to be chosen to fill said need. However, for the FO it isn't as cut and dried as with fans, especially with our offseason issues with weed. I'd rather trade up for Trumaine Johnson, or wait and grab a CB like Jamell Flemming or Brandon Boykin.
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| April 27th, 2012, 11:21 am |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 9243 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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BillySims wrote: mwill2 wrote: Tweet from John Clayton. Seems relevant to the current conversation. Quote: John Clayton @ClaytonESPN With three CBs _ Brandon Carr, Orlando Scandrick and Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins is a goner. Could they get a fourth for him? Maybe. I doubt Dallas gets a 4th rounder for Jenkins. I could see Mayhew getting him for a 5th or less. Jenkins isn't a Pro Bowler but he'd be good depth and an upgrade over Alphonso Smith. So here's another way the DB position can be addressed in the later rounds. I am sick of settling for other teams castaways. If Mike Jenkins is the odd man out in Dallas, ie 4th best CB, then he shouldn't be considered for our 2nd best CB spot. You are gonna have to accept some facts Billy. Our team has a BUNCH of "other teams castaways" that have contributed to the success of the team in 2011. Kyle Vandenbosch Lawrence Jackson Chris Houston Corey Williams Stephen Tulloch Justin Durant Rob Sims Nate Burleson Tony Scheffler All these guys are contributors, and they were either traded, released, or not re-signed by their former teams, essentially making them another teams garbage. Good players are good players. Jenkins is certainly not an all-star, pro bowl...whatever. But if you have a chance to improve your roster, you do it, without considering the guy involved as "garbage" because the other team no longer found a use for him.
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| April 27th, 2012, 11:32 am |
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regularjoe12
QB Coach
Joined: March 30th, 2006, 12:48 am Posts: 3245 Location: Davison Mi
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Dang M2K...you never fail to impress. good post
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| April 27th, 2012, 11:42 am |
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rao
National Champion
Joined: November 28th, 2007, 12:50 pm Posts: 834 Location: Newport Beach, Ca
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With that many great prospects still available I hope the FO is trying to shop Avril. Maybe we could sneak another second rounder out of him and get another OL, DB, and save 10M.
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| April 27th, 2012, 12:43 pm |
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LionsFan4Life
Fired Head Coach (0-16 record)
Joined: October 30th, 2004, 12:30 pm Posts: 2180 Location: Austin, TX
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rao wrote: With that many great prospects still available I hope the FO is trying to shop Avril. Maybe we could sneak another second rounder out of him and get another OL, DB, and save 10M. Very interesting scenario there.... 
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| April 27th, 2012, 1:10 pm |
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thelomasbrowns
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 1870
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rao wrote: With that many great prospects still available I hope the FO is trying to shop Avril. Maybe we could sneak another second rounder out of him and get another OL, DB, and save 10M. Save 10M for what?
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| April 27th, 2012, 1:29 pm |
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Wayne Fontes
Color Commentator - John Madden
Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 am Posts: 1919 Location: A2
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Avril's franchise tag $$
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| April 27th, 2012, 1:32 pm |
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