I heard yesterday that George Foster Signed with the Colts yesterday and don't see it anywhere on this board. Don't want to get yelled at, or have a thread moved to off topic, but wondered if anyone heard anything

if cam is ranked higher than stafford, i am gonna s*** out of my d***. cam's 4th quarter numbers are among the worst in the league and they went 6-10. i have no problem with him of the list he's just not a top 40 player yet

Matthew Stafford vs. Cam Newton, who's better? Detroit Lions QB isn't superior in some eyes

Matthew Stafford's peers ranked him as the 41st best player in the NFL. And they think Cam Newton is even better.

So, it's sparked a debate: Which quarterback is better? The Detroit Lions passer who threw for more than 5,000 yards in his first healthy season in 2011 or the Carolina Panthers dual-threat star who accounted for 35 touchdowns as a rookie?

Opionions appear to be split among NFL Network analysts and an NFL.com writer.

NFL.com's Gregg Rosenthal says Newton is "already a superior quarterback" to Stafford.

"This isn't about Newton's potential," Rosenthal wrote. "Newton showed the ability to stand tall in the pocket, like a veteran, and deliver with pressure in his face. He's a good progression reader. Stafford has also made great strides in these areas, but Newton's running skills put him over the top. Newton may be the best goal-line back in football."

Newton did rush for 706 yards and 14 touchdowns in 2011, in addition to passing for 4,051 yards and 21 TDs. The Panthers finished 6-10 after winning just two games in 2010.

But NFL Network analyst Brian Billick, the former coach of the Baltimore Ravens, says you can't discount what Stafford has done in lifting the Lions as a franchise.

"You've got to remember where Matthew Stafford came from. Virtually no running game, it was all on him. Let's not forget they're not that far removed from an 0-16 season," Billick said.

"The way he's elevated that franchise the way a great quarterback should. I think he's beginning to broach that elite level. Matthew Stafford clearly should have been higher on this chart and clearly should have been ahead of Cam Newton."

Stafford, in his third NFL season, passed for 5,038 yards and 41 touchdowns in leading Detroit to a 10-6 record and its first playoff berth since 1999.

Still, it appears the potential of Newton is the tease to other NFL players -- and NFL Network analyst Jay Glazer is buying in, too.

"I do think Matthew Stafford should be ranked higher, but if I had to choose right now, a quarterback of the future, I think I'm going the other way," Glazer said. "I think I'm going with Cam. Imagine what he could do when he really understands what's going on out there."

Who's better, Stafford or Newton?

I think the only wa y to answer the questions is to ask yourself this: If you had to draft one of them today, which one would you draft?

I'd go stafford....but like you said I am biased
EDIT TO ADD:
Plus the Steves (young &McNair) are the only running QB's that had a long successful carreer. (Ok MAAAYBE MCnabb too) but thats it. I have always prefered a pocket passer.

There are a lot of great NFL QBs who ran the ball, it is just now much more part of the game. Besides Vick and Young, guys like Fran Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham, Roger Staubach, and even John Elway were known to run and I don't think of any of them as being particularly injury prone. And Aaron Rodgers hasn't missed many games.

And if it is injuries you are worried about, it is Stafford who has missed all the games - not Newton.

That said, there are a lot of intangibles that factor into a QB having "IT" - think of things like leadership, competitiveness, etc. I see these traits in Staff, I haven't followed Newton enough to know how he stacks up in this category. My guess, folks in Carolina would pick Cam while folks in Detroit would pick Stafford.

Tell you what, after 50 years - it is just nice to have a QB in conversations like this...

the rule is that running QB's don't play long

Oh would you stop defending your old favorite QB of Jamarcus Russel!!!! lol


Call it a matter of preference then. to me it seems that mobile QB's are more prone to getting hit more often. I guess I dont really have the actual numbers to prove it, but thats the way I perceive things to be.

On average this works out to about 3 per team - couple of teams get more, couple of teams get less. I think the Lions work out right to the average. CJ, Suh and Staff - no more, no less. Just a matter of where they rank, especially CJ.